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Radish

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"Pop'n Music" , posted Thu 11 Mar 07:20:

Hey sorry for this stupid thread, but I just thought I'd ask.

Recently I saw an article where a guy made a controller for Pop'n Music out of an old controller a few planks of wood and some tennis balls and another with plexyglass and cool looking buttons. It looked super fun to make so I was considering breaking out the old soldering iron and dremel and trying it myself. Problem is I have no idea what Pop'n Music is since it really never came over to America and it's not really the type of game I normally import. Only thing I know is that one of the characters was in Wai Wai Racing or some such.

I like music games a lot like Parrapa the Rapper, Sapce Channel 5 and the occational DDR. I think I heard Iggy talking about it a little while ago, but that might have been Para Para Paradise (again something I'm generally unfamiliar with).

Just wondering if the game is fun and worth looking into if I decide to go ahead and make the controller. Making it sounds much more fun than paying $250 for them on the internet.

[this message was edited by Radish on Thu 11 Mar 07:21]

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StickClick

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Copper Customer

"Re(1):Pop'n Music" , posted Thu 11 Mar 08:06

quote:
Hey sorry for this stupid thread, but I just thought I'd ask.

Recently I saw an article where a guy made a controller for Pop'n Music out of an old controller a few planks of wood and some tennis balls and another with plexyglass and cool looking buttons. It looked super fun to make so I was considering breaking out the old soldering iron and dremel and trying it myself. Problem is I have no idea what Pop'n Music is since it really never came over to America and it's not really the type of game I normally import. Only thing I know is that one of the characters was in Wai Wai Racing or some such.

I like music games a lot like Parrapa the Rapper, Sapce Channel 5 and the occational DDR. I think I heard Iggy talking about it a little while ago, but that might have been Para Para Paradise (again something I'm generally unfamiliar with).

Just wondering if the game is fun and worth looking into if I decide to go ahead and make the controller. Making it sounds much more fun than paying $250 for them on the internet.

Let's just say... If I had $300 to drop, I'd put it on Pop'N Music in a second.

Pop'N Music is a 9-button music game that is like the more colorful brother of Beatmania IIDX. IIDX has more electronic-y, techno-ish music, but Pop'N Music has more lively, light-hearted music. It's also said to be even more difficult [and IIDX can really get to be a hand-eye coordination nightmare on higher difficulties.]

There is actually a scene in Lost on Translation where you see a guy playing the game... there are some replays out there somewhere, too... And if you want some music samples, I can upload them.

Radish

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Platinum Carpet V.I.P- Board Master

"Re(2):Pop'n Music" , posted Thu 11 Mar 08:39

quote:
Hey sorry for this stupid thread, but I just thought I'd ask.

Recently I saw an article where a guy made a controller for Pop'n Music out of an old controller a few planks of wood and some tennis balls and another with plexyglass and cool looking buttons. It looked super fun to make so I was considering breaking out the old soldering iron and dremel and trying it myself. Problem is I have no idea what Pop'n Music is since it really never came over to America and it's not really the type of game I normally import. Only thing I know is that one of the characters was in Wai Wai Racing or some such.

I like music games a lot like Parrapa the Rapper, Sapce Channel 5 and the occational DDR. I think I heard Iggy talking about it a little while ago, but that might have been Para Para Paradise (again something I'm generally unfamiliar with).

Just wondering if the game is fun and worth looking into if I decide to go ahead and make the controller. Making it sounds much more fun than paying $250 for them on the internet.

Let's just say... If I had $300 to drop, I'd put it on Pop'N Music in a second.

Pop'N Music is a 9-button music game that is like the more colorful brother of Beatmania IIDX. IIDX has more electronic-y, techno-ish music, but Pop'N Music has more lively, light-hearted music. It's also said to be even more difficult [and IIDX can really get to be a hand-eye coordination nightmare on higher difficulties.]

There is actually a scene in Lost on Translation where you see a guy playing the game... there are some replays out there somewhere, too... And if you want some music samples, I can upload them.

Yeah I'd love to check out some music. I'm thinking about this since a custom controller wouldn't cost as ungodly much as a premade one would and would be a neat project.

Pollyanna
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Frequent Customer

"Re(3):Pop'n Music" , posted Thu 11 Mar 10:33

I own all 4 Pop'n Musics for PS2, and I think they're great. I love the characters, I love the music and they're tons of fun, with or without an official controller. Personally, I thuink they have the best music out of the Bemani series. While there are a large number of songs that suck in each game, there is a greater variety than with other games as well as a greater number overall (50+ per game). I'd be lying if I said that the appeal wasn't partially due to style...but it's still lots of fun.

Making a controller is a bit tricky, though...well, really, it's mostly about having the buttons "recoil" or bounce back properly. Do you have a sight where someone details how to make a controller? I'd be interested in seeing how well they can reproduce the Konami arcade-styled one. I know there are two people out there who have done a great job of doing so...

StickClick

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Copper Customer

"Re(4):Pop'n Music" , posted Thu 11 Mar 12:29

Here's 11 songs...

[35.1MB]

0/1ANGEL is addictive as heck.

Shin_ATproof

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Red Carpet Premium Member

"Re(5):Pop'n Music" , posted Thu 11 Mar 12:32

My arcade got an Anime song version of Pop'N Music...and I'm addicted to it.

Any game where it has the music of Saint Seiya, Dragon Ball, Cutey Honey, Kinnukuman and Great Mazinger is aweome.

Sí con

la langosta y camarón

Pollyanna
228th Post

Frequent Customer

"Re(6):Pop'n Music" , posted Thu 11 Mar 13:26

quote:
My arcade got an Anime song version of Pop'N Music...and I'm addicted to it.

Any game where it has the music of Saint Seiya, Dragon Ball, Cutey Honey, Kinnukuman and Great Mazinger is aweome.

Oh yeah...that was kinda fun...but what's neat is that in the new Pop'n Musics they just include retro anime songs in the "liscened" song section...so instead of making 2 games out of it, they just incorporated them together.

I enjoyed that game too, but...since I already have most of those songs on CD, it was a little meaningless.

Radish

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Platinum Carpet V.I.P- Board Master

"Re(4):Pop'n Music" , posted Thu 11 Mar 14:44

quote:
I own all 4 Pop'n Musics for PS2, and I think they're great. I love the characters, I love the music and they're tons of fun, with or without an official controller. Personally, I thuink they have the best music out of the Bemani series. While there are a large number of songs that suck in each game, there is a greater variety than with other games as well as a greater number overall (50+ per game). I'd be lying if I said that the appeal wasn't partially due to style...but it's still lots of fun.

Making a controller is a bit tricky, though...well, really, it's mostly about having the buttons "recoil" or bounce back properly. Do you have a sight where someone details how to make a controller? I'd be interested in seeing how well they can reproduce the Konami arcade-styled one. I know there are two people out there who have done a great job of doing so...

This was the design site I was going for and it has a link to a site where you can order buttons that look pretty legit.

Really this is just an excuse for me to mess around with some wiring and bust open a Playstation controller. The fact that the finished product plays a neat music game is the icing on the cake.

Thanks a lot for the input. I'd be interested in what you think about that site. I'd hate to dump $50 in buttons only to have them suck.

Pollyanna
229th Post

Frequent Customer

"Re(5):Pop'n Music" , posted Thu 11 Mar 20:55

Hmmm...well, I've seen this model before and for the price, it's pretty good I'd guess. (I haven't actually played with it, though) It's especially good if you want to build a controller and possibly even "perfect" if you've never played Pop'n Music on a real arcade controller.

Buuut...the buttons are a little off. Well, they aren't ROUND at least on the top, which is not key to playing the game, but a nice detail. If I were you, I'd check out bemanistyle.com, the only home for Pop'n Music fans that don't speak Japanese (that I know of). There are a number of what I consider better or equally good designs there you might want to consider.

Radish

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"Re(6):Pop'n Music" , posted Fri 12 Mar 09:14

quote:
Hmmm...well, I've seen this model before and for the price, it's pretty good I'd guess. (I haven't actually played with it, though) It's especially good if you want to build a controller and possibly even "perfect" if you've never played Pop'n Music on a real arcade controller.

Buuut...the buttons are a little off. Well, they aren't ROUND at least on the top, which is not key to playing the game, but a nice detail. If I were you, I'd check out bemanistyle.com, the only home for Pop'n Music fans that don't speak Japanese (that I know of). There are a number of what I consider better or equally good designs there you might want to consider.

Ok thanks for the input. I did a little research and found a few places that sell rounded dome buttons.

coinopexpress has them, but sadly you have to order 80(!!) at once so that's kinda out.

wico sells some too, but they don't list the price. I wouldn't think it'd be more than $6 per button though so I'd have to check.

I've never even seen a Pop'N music controller so I'd glad you informed me about the buttons.

Also lastly I saw a $70 controller from Konami. Now the real fun here is that I'm making this myself. However I just want to make sure that the other one is tiny since it would somewhat sour the experiance if I end up spending the same amount of money building a controller that you could just buy.

Thanks again!

Pollyanna
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Frequent Customer

"Re(7):Pop'n Music" , posted Fri 12 Mar 10:03

The $70 Konami controller sucks ass. Also, $70 is entirely too muich for it. They were welling for $30/$35 when I went to Japan.
The controllers are tiny, poorly made, cheap and totally fail to reproduce the arcade experience for anyone over 2 years old (or roughly the size of a two-year old). I can't believe that they don't sell the "real" size ones in normal Japanese stores.

Anyway, even if you were to poorly construct a contoller that would feel decidedly unlike the arcade, if it had big buttons, roughly equivalent spacing and didn't stick every time you hit something, it would kick the ass of the small Konami one.

Radish

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"Re(8):Pop'n Music" , posted Fri 12 Mar 10:13

quote:
The $70 Konami controller sucks ass. Also, $70 is entirely too muich for it. They were welling for $30/$35 when I went to Japan.
The controllers are tiny, poorly made, cheap and totally fail to reproduce the arcade experience for anyone over 2 years old (or roughly the size of a two-year old). I can't believe that they don't sell the "real" size ones in normal Japanese stores.

Anyway, even if you were to poorly construct a contoller that would feel decidedly unlike the arcade, if it had big buttons, roughly equivalent spacing and didn't stick every time you hit something, it would kick the ass of the small Konami one.

Ok cool. The wico buttons look like they are $10 a piece which is a bit out of my price range (would total $90 for those alone) so I might have to go with the cheaper flat ones. It doesn't seem to me like there's any real difference between the two. Since the chances of me ever playing a real arcade machine are almost nil does it really matter if I go with the domed ones instead of the flat buttons? I'm not sure how this game plays exactly so there might be a benefit to the domed that I'm unaware of.

Damn I wish that store shipped in less than packs of 80...

Undead Fred

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Red Carpet Executive Member

"Re(9):Pop'n Music" , posted Fri 12 Mar 11:30

Is this game in the video Pop'n Music?

LINKS 2 3 4

BLARGBLARG PLACE YOUR BETS!

Radish

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Platinum Carpet V.I.P- Board Master

"Re(10):Pop'n Music" , posted Fri 12 Mar 12:26

quote:
Is this game in the video Pop'n Music?

LINKS 2 3 4

Yes and goodness.

Mav
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Rare Customer

"Re(8):Pop'n Music" , posted Fri 12 Mar 12:59

quote:
The $70 Konami controller sucks ass. Also, $70 is entirely too muich for it. They were welling for $30/$35 when I went to Japan.
The controllers are tiny, poorly made, cheap and totally fail to reproduce the arcade experience for anyone over 2 years old (or roughly the size of a two-year old). I can't believe that they don't sell the "real" size ones in normal Japanese stores.

A friend discovered the basic Pop'n controller is so flimsy, you can activate the panels by blowing on them. It's still better than the incredibly lousy home Drummania and Guitar Freaks controllers. (Or as their home versions would more indicate, Blockmania and Ukelele Freaks.)

Thanks for posting "Dimanche". I think that's the only song missing from my Orange Lounge collection. Eclectic goodness.
If you liked that Angel song, it reminds me a bit of the synthpop stylings of Freezepop. Check them out.

Octopi are kinda' funny. You can't blame them for anything.