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Shyeim
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"lol Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tournament" , posted Wed 10 Mar 11:18:

Duolon is banned in all official S.Korea Tournament!!!

I think it's first time that KOF gets a banned character. I also heard that Japanese tournament is banning Duolon too.

Still wonder if Tougeki(Arcadia tournament) will allow Duolon players???

[this message was edited by Shyeim on Wed 10 Mar 11:22]

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Shin_ATproof

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"Re(1):lol Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tour" , posted Wed 10 Mar 11:26

LOL It's a lot like 3rdStrike Chun Li back in the day. A lot of places supposedly banned her. Good thing people got over that and now people realize she isn't THAT good either characters like Urien and Dudley own her. Duolon isn't THAT great. He is very good though I mean a very strong B&B that can be reset is always a good thing but that dash which is like a foundation for a lot of power is breakable. It's called c.B or Hyper smalljump pokes.

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"Re(1):lol Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tour" , posted Wed 10 Mar 11:50

quote:
I think it's first time that KOF gets a banned character. I also heard that Japanese tournament is banning Duolon too.

Weren't May Lee and Foxy banned in 2001?
I remember Karin beeing banned from SFZero 3 because of her maji mode throw bug...(niari)

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"Re(2):lol Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tour" , posted Wed 10 Mar 12:05

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Weren't May Lee and Foxy banned in 2001?

Yes, this is correct; (dunno about the SFZ3 thing). If you want more 'fun facts' Devil was banned in a TTT korean tournament... Well; even though he is the most basic Mishima he can be that though at 'extreme-high' korean game play.

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"Re(2):lol Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tour" , posted Wed 10 Mar 12:17

quote:

I remember Karin beeing banned from SFZero 3

No, they just banned the special grooves like Saikyo and Mazi from tournament play due to bugs like Karin. Karin herself is not banned.

emeraldazn

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"Re(3):lol Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tour" , posted Wed 10 Mar 15:48

What tourney banned Maylee and Foxy? Cuz Ongamenet didn't ban them

Shyeim
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"Re(3):lol Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tour" , posted Wed 10 Mar 17:36:

quote:
Weren't May Lee and Foxy banned in 2001?

Yes, this is correct; (dunno about the SFZ3 thing). If you want more 'fun facts' Devil was banned in a TTT korean tournament... Well; even though he is the most basic Mishima he can be that though at 'extreme-high' korean game play.

Foxy and May Lee were allowed in all Korean tourney, altough they are extremely powerfull with good striker. I think you can compare Foxy and May Lee like Kevin(god-tier)in Garou.

LOL I hope you are not joking about Devil. ; )

[this message was edited by Shyeim on Wed 10 Mar 17:40]

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"Re(1):lol Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tour" , posted Wed 10 Mar 19:32

quote:
Duolon is banned in all official S.Korea Tournament!!!

I think it's first time that KOF gets a banned character. I also heard that Japanese tournament is banning Duolon too.

Still wonder if Tougeki(Arcadia tournament) will allow Duolon players???

Why would he be banned? I haven't gotten to play a lot of the new KOF because the closest machine is 200 miles away so I don't know what he plays like, I just hear that he is a killer, but I never hear why.

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"Re(2):rolf Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tou" , posted Wed 10 Mar 20:08:

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Why would he be banned? I haven't gotten to play a lot of the new KOF because the closest machine is 200 miles away so I don't know what he plays like, I just hear that he is a killer, but I never hear why.

ya, i don't understand either. all i can guess is that maybe he has infinites. his alternate "chew" (Shaki Juuryuu) seems to leave the opponent open for an extra hit. maybe you can Shaki Juuryuu (

) to Onpei Ryuujin Ha (

) to Shiryou Hatsuseikin (

), lather, rinse, repeat, until the guy's dead. i don't use it much myself because you need to be pretty close for it to connect, not to mention the insane timing it takes. (i finish Onpei Ryuujin Ha with a

because i think i'm cool when i use custom combos.) also, maybe there's an infinite with his Genmu Kyaku (

). bouncing the guy to a silly death. i dunno. throwing guesses out there. who has the real answer?

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"Re(4):lol Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tour" , posted Wed 10 Mar 20:46

quote:

Foxy and May Lee were allowed in all Korean tourney, altough they are extremely powerfull with good striker. I think you can compare Foxy and May Lee like Kevin(god-tier)in Garou.

True. I do believe I remember a KOFOnline tournament where both characters were allowed, although Foxy's glitch that made her B fully unblockable was banned. In the course of the tournament, there were some rulings made regarding some Hinako properties (stun bug, infinites, that sort of thing).

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"Re(2):lol Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tour" , posted Thu 11 Mar 05:02

quote:
LOL It's a lot like 3rdStrike Chun Li back in the day. A lot of places supposedly banned her. Good thing people got over that and now people realize she isn't THAT good either characters like Urien and Dudley own her.

ehr.. Dudley dies to Chun Li.
characters that keep her well are Yun/Yang and, surpisingly, Twelve.
Oh, Necro can almost 100% her from a parry

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"Re(3):lol Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tour" , posted Thu 11 Mar 13:23

quote:
LOL It's a lot like 3rdStrike Chun Li back in the day. A lot of places supposedly banned her. Good thing people got over that and now people realize she isn't THAT good either characters like Urien and Dudley own her.

ehr.. Dudley dies to Chun Li.
characters that keep her well are Yun/Yang and, surpisingly, Twelve.
Oh, Necro can almost 100% her from a parry

Nah,Dudley can beat down Chun. Him and Ibuki are my kill-Chun characters.

Anyway,back to the topic. LOL. Never heard of a banned character. Any reason?

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"Re(4):lol Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tour" , posted Thu 11 Mar 13:46

Well with Iori and Duolon, you CAN make the infinite possible. (although I think its not really an infinite, 3 repetitions was always the most I can get.)

Starting with Duolon, do your

. tag in iori, and let him do the fb dm. move the opponent to the corner, then do cross jump

, tag attack, and Duolon will come in for the infinite.

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"Re(4):lol Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tour" , posted Thu 11 Mar 13:57

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Anyway,back to the topic. LOL. Never heard of a banned character. Any reason?

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"Re(4):lol Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tour" , posted Thu 11 Mar 14:05

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Nah,Dudley can beat down Chun. Him and Ibuki are my kill-Chun characters.

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"Re(4):lol Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tour" , posted Thu 11 Mar 15:30

quote:
Nah,Dudley can beat down Chun. Him and Ibuki are my kill-Chun characters.

Ummm... no.

quote:
Anyway,back to the topic. LOL. Never heard of a banned character. Any reason?

Ridiculously overpowered. The only character that has ever really been banned across the board (apart from console-only or boss characters) was Gouki from Super Turbo. He was just way too good for that game (air FBs were ridiculous). Foxy was banned from some 2001 tourneys (unblockable glitch) and there have been some random bannings of 2nd Impact Gouki. Oh, and I'm sure there would've been a few banned characters in SvC had it actually ever had a tournament scene. I've yet to play any serious competition in 2003, but I honestly don't think Duolon's resets and mixups are dangerous enough to warrant banning him. Time will tell, I s'pose.

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"Re(5):lol Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tour" , posted Thu 11 Mar 15:37

Read my above post if you want to know why.

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"Re(6):lol Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tour" , posted Thu 11 Mar 16:15

quote:
Read my above post if you want to know why.

I know his 100%/infinites. Having a 100%/infinite alone does not warrant a ban in KoF.

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"Re(7):lol Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tour" , posted Thu 11 Mar 17:09:

quote:
Read my above post if you want to know why.
I know his 100%/infinites. Having a 100%/infinite alone does not warrant a ban in KoF.

Well, like you said, you haven't played any serious competition..

100% infinites? He doesn't have a 100% infinite

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Shyeim
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"Re(8):lol Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tour" , posted Thu 11 Mar 17:13:

quote:
Read my above post if you want to know why.
I know his 100%/infinites. Having a 100%/infinite alone does not warrant a ban in KoF.

Well, like you said, you haven't played any serious competition..

100% infinites? He doesn't have a 100% infinite

I think most western players understimate Duolon cheapness. By the way Duolon with Ash is most played duo in S.Korea arcade.

King&K' and Malin are very popular choice after Duolon and Ash.

[this message was edited by Shyeim on Thu 11 Mar 17:26]

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"Re(5):lol Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tour" , posted Thu 11 Mar 17:23

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Nah,Dudley can beat down Chun. Him and Ibuki are my kill-Chun characters.Ummm... no.

Chun Li *is* a counter character for Dudley.

Good characters against Chun Li need to have a way to get close to her fast, and to stay close. Dudley is not one of them. The ones who can are Yun/Yang and Ken. Ibuki is too weak to do much, unless the Chun Li player is not experienced against Ibuki's rushdown tactics.

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"Re(8):lol Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tour" , posted Thu 11 Mar 21:02

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100% infinites? He doesn't have a 100% infinite

There is the 100% 'enemy back' corner infinite (Iori corner, scum gale; tag -> doom; easy example); and if I'm not mistaken he has an infinite using the leader DM.

Even if he doesn't use the infinite; taking 70% from one cr B with one or two bars is just wrong XD; and the teleport is too good; just develop some good rush down techniques... Duolong is though; but oddly enough I play the hero team and my wreaking havok character is Sheng... The key is in the break guard move XD

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emeraldazn

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"Re(9):lol Duolon banned in Korean KOF2k3 tour" , posted Thu 11 Mar 21:08:

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There is the 100% 'enemy back' corner infinite (Iori corner, scum gale; tag -> doom; easy example); and if I'm not mistaken he has an infinite using the leader DM.

That corner infinite is up to 3 repetitions, if you super cancel into hcbx2+p then yes that makes it 100%. But still, your method will not work easily against a smart player. And if you follow my method, it will cost 3 stock JUST to start the infinite.

leader dm allows you to press

up to 42 hits

[this message was edited by emeraldazn on Thu 11 Mar 21:10]