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|  "Re(1):Sephiroth's story?"
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After defeating him again tonight while playing Kingdom Hearts,I was wondering what Seph's BG story was?
Also,was he as tough in FF7 as he was in Kingdom Hearts?
From what I hear about the Seph. in Kingdom Hearts, he was much (I emphasize "much") easier in FF7.
I've beat him using two or three different tactics of equipments (materia and other equipment), each time it was very easy.
As for his background story, it would take some time for me to type up, which I could do for you, but I'm running short on time at this point, so I'll have to do it later.
If you play through FF7, you'll pretty much get everything from that.
I'll get to it this weekend when everything isn't so crammed.
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| DarkZero 642th Post
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| "Re(2):Sephiroth's story?" , posted Thu 26 Feb 21:59
Sephiroth was created when a mad scientist impregnated his girlfriend with the cells of an alien monster (Jenova) that terrorized an alien race on Earth thousands of years ago. He seemed to grow up somewhat normally and eventually joined the SOLDIER group that his mad scientist "father" was involved with, but went insane when he found records of the alien history and his own birth. He became obsessed with Jenova and sought to become a god by summoning a meteor from outer space, crashing it into the Earth, and then feeding off the life energy that would be released by the deaths of millions of human beings. Or at least, that's the best that I could get out of FFVII's piss-poor translation, which became particularly bad whenever a major plot point was being revealed.
As for whether or not he was harder... it's a matter of opinion, I think. In both cases, you can either make the fight really, really boring and win easily, or fight with some degree of variety and end up fighting him ten times over. The only difference that I saw was that KH Sephiroth's weaknesses were a little less obvious than FFVII Sephiroth's.
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| Sensenic 1153th Post
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| "Re(3):Sephiroth's story. Sensenic's version" , posted Fri 27 Feb 08:28:
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I think it mostly is due to the fact that the newest generation of RPG fans started with FF7, so it's like their sacred cow... they say you always remember your first. Well, that and the fact that every Nomura character post-FF7 has pretty much looked the same (psychologists call it negative reinforcement). Blind loyalty is a funny thing, no?
Yes it is.
That's my case, FF7 was my "first" Japanese RPG, and I looooved it so much... I don't know if it's because of "blind loyalty" or anything, but its still my favourite FF, together with 6, even with its horrid Spanish translation from the, apparently horrid too, English one.
And well, guess it's pretty useless to say it in this thread, by now, but... spoiler-heavy text ahead:
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Either way Sephiroth and Cloud's continued popularity confuses me to great degrees. I understand kids love the generic bad asses, but it's not like those are in short supply.
Well, I'm speaking for myself here, but Cloud is definitely not the typical bad ass. He acts like it only at the beginning, and gets to be it only at the end (and a very honest, humble one, IMO), but, for most of the game, when he really gets interesting, you notice he's actually a schizofrenic loser. You never had one of those as a main character, had you? That's why I like him as a character, because they really put an effort in not making him your usual carefree tough-guy/adventurer, or your also usual innocent hero-wannabe, main guy.
The sad part is that most of the people are fans of this completely fake bad ass self-built image of the beginning :(
As for my opinion on Sephiroth, well... people hate him ("fanly" hate him), I feel sorry for him. He's a tragic character who becomes mad at the world because he can't accept reality, and only then he becomes the S.O.B. everybody "fanly hates". I mean, Jenova, Hojo, Shin-Ra, everybody used him as an 'experiment' or as a 'tool', only one person really got to care about him, his mother Lucrecia, and he never knew her, so... his poor head (and most people's probably) just wasn't able to accept all of a sudden all the facts that were thrown at him... so he goes mad and then, I think, becomes easily manipulable for his other "caring mummy", Jenova.
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Sephiroth was created when a mad scientist impregnated his girlfriend with the cells of an alien monster (Jenova) that terrorized an alien race on Earth thousands of years ago. He seemed to grow up somewhat normally and eventually joined the SOLDIER group that his mad scientist "father" was involved with, but went insane when he found records of the alien history and his own birth. He became obsessed with Jenova and sought to become a god by summoning a meteor from outer space, crashing it into the Earth, and then feeding off the life energy that would be released by the deaths of millions of human beings. Or at least, that's the best that I could get out of FFVII's piss-poor translation, which became particularly bad whenever a major plot point was being revealed.
My version is almost the same as yours, DarkZero, but you missed that he gets mad at Shin-Ra and mankind in general because he thinks he's an Ancient, a Cetra, whatever... since (he believed) Jenova was the last of them, not an alien. And he also learns then that when this big catastrophe happened (Jenova, but he doesn't know that, thinks it was a meteor) it killed almost all of the Ancients while Humans kept hiding, so what he decides to do is to return the planet to him and his mummy, because they, the Cetra, are the rightful owners of the planet. And he believed so because when that guy who was Hojo's boss (can't recall his name now, Aerith's daddy) found Jenova, he thought it was an Ancient, and what Sephiroth read in Nibelheim that turned him mad were this guy's notes from back then.
Well, as I was saying, he first wants to take revenge on Humans in the name of the Cetra race, that's for sure, but then, in the Ancient's temple, after Aerith had discovered he and Jenova aren't Ancients, you find out he now wants to become a God, and IMO this is the darkest part of the plot. You know that, back at Nibelheim, when Sephiroth went mad, he was completely wrong, and they don't ever tell you if he gets to know the truth or not, they also don't give a reason why he has abandoned "justice" and has become plain "evil" & selfish, and I guess both things are related.
I think, from a post from some guy I read once, that he's actually controlled by Jenova, who "feeds" on the life currents of the planets' she crashes on and ruins, so she makes him take that decision in his plan to take revenge from mankind, just the same way she manipulates Cloud to give him the Black Materia, or like she manipulates Shin-Ra to start exploiting Mako, and thus to start sucking the planet's life. But then Sephiroth somehow changes the situation again and, while he keeps the ideas Jenova put into him (planet's life stream sucking), he gets to control her only for his personal revenge, so, once Cloud and co defeat him, both Sephiroth and Jenova are no more.
But, of course, this last paragraph is just pure speculation, and with Advent Children coming out, everything I thought will probably collapse like a card castle. Plus, I don't forget that the game plot I got to know was from the 'great' Spanish translation from the 'excellent' English one so... any similarities with the actual story might be purely coincidential  -sigh-
EDIT: Fixed little mistakes.
Oboromaru. Yup seems they're all "one-eyed" masked guys now. Just coincidence.
Damn boredom that can kill you with a sword!
A friend of mine talking about elves in LOTR
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