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| Myst
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|  "Re(1):Is it a possibility? (SamvC)"
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Anyone think it's possible,even though this game hasn't come out yet,that Rumblefish characters will be used in SamvC? I kind of think so,not too mention GG's characters only wouldn't provide much variety(not a GG fan obviously,but only my opinion).
I'm an avid Guilty Gear Series fan, but I completely agree with you. I'm not too sure about them using characters from Rumblefish, but it might be a valid idea.
Also, if anyone remembers back to the good ol' NES days, Sammy had a game by the name of Ninja Crusaders (I think, please correct me if I'm wrong). A character from that may show up.
Lastly, they also have Seven Samurai 20XX to work with, as this is their latest game.
Otherwise to those 4 games, I can't really think of anything else that Sammy can use for Sammy vs. Capcom.
And in reply to Jason, they aren't any less varied than most other fighting games in my opinion. Just some fighting games (KOF series comes to mind) have a lot more characters in them compared to something like Guilty Gear X2 or Guilty Gear Isuka (Isuka being one of the games which I'm still waiting to hopefully play one day).
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| Iggy 2794th Post
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| "Re(2):Is it a possibility? (SamvC)" , posted Mon 16 Feb 14:21:
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I mean, in terms of functional playstyles, GG is one of the most diverse games around. And if we're not talking about gameplay, but rather character design, then, well, how are they less varied than any other fighting game series?
The main problem is that TE doesn't like GG, and the reason for this overwhelming hate is hidden in Bridget's pants.
And on topic, if they run out of ideas, they can always use Guts, and put Iggy on Capcom's side... (Puck vs Pet Shop! Yey!)
But a nice GG vs Vampire would be far enough. And I need more Leopardon. Leopardon with his dog in the Sasquatch-like Gear, outside the gear with the dog, inside whithout, all alone and looking for friends... The world needs more Leopardon. And Devilot. Only one Devilot would be enough to stop the wars in the middle east.
．．．人はパンツをセンタク機にほうり込むのは、どんな時だ？
答えは一つ。
．．．それを脱いだ時、だぜ。
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| Kaepora 298th Post
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| "Re(2):Is it a possibility? (SamvC)" , posted Mon 16 Feb 20:58
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Just curious, this is a statement that I've heard made quite a few times in reguards to GG chracters, and I'm just wondering where it came from. I mean, in terms of functional playstyles, GG is one of the most diverse games around. And if we're not talking about gameplay, but rather character design, then, well, how are they less varied than any other fighting game series?
I think it's more along the same lines that people were drawing with the Capcom vs SNK 1 roster ("It's just Street Fighter II vs KOF and three others!") than actual character playstyles.
"Diversity" as in where they are from, not how they play.
If it were called Sammy vs Capcom, then it would be kind of a disappointment when you find out that it's really just Guilty Gear vs Capcom, since you were expecting some kind of huge diversity of Sammy game references and background sources and inspiration even though nobody is really too sure on what else they actually have to contribute.
"Sammy vs Capcom? WTF does Sammy have other than Guilty Gear?"
"Don't they do pachinko?"
"Guilty Gear is Arc System Works, isn't it?"
"I guess it doesn't matter too much as long as they include Cable."
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| Sano 429th Post
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| "Don't hold your breath waiting for Berserk." , posted Tue 17 Feb 09:06
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The main problem is that TE doesn't like GG, and the reason for this overwhelming hate is hidden in Bridget's pants.
And on topic, if they run out of ideas, they can always use Guts, and put Iggy on Capcom's side... (Puck vs Pet Shop! Yey!)
But a nice GG vs Vampire would be far enough. And I need more Leopardon. Leopardon with his dog in the Sasquatch-like Gear, outside the gear with the dog, inside whithout, all alone and looking for friends... The world needs more Leopardon. And Devilot. Only one Devilot would be enough to stop the wars in the middle east.
Well, if Sammy gets the rights to put Berserk Characters in the game (ain't gonna happen, but...) Capcom should get the rights to stick in characters from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. Ain't gonna happen either... Kujo Jotaro will kick everybody's Ass.
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| HAYATO
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| "Re(1):Don't hold your breath waiting for Bers" , posted Tue 17 Feb 09:39
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The main problem is that TE doesn't like GG, and the reason for this overwhelming hate is hidden in Bridget's pants.
And on topic, if they run out of ideas, they can always use Guts, and put Iggy on Capcom's side... (Puck vs Pet Shop! Yey!)
But a nice GG vs Vampire would be far enough. And I need more Leopardon. Leopardon with his dog in the Sasquatch-like Gear, outside the gear with the dog, inside whithout, all alone and looking for friends... The world needs more Leopardon. And Devilot. Only one Devilot would be enough to stop the wars in the middle east.
Well, if Sammy gets the rights to put Berserk Characters in the game (ain't gonna happen, but...) Capcom should get the rights to stick in characters from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. Ain't gonna happen either... Kujo Jotaro will kick everybody's Ass.
Oh dude, this should be so great !!! I would really love to see a "Jotaro vs Donovan" fight, just in case they "rescue" the vampire hunter at last... (Donovan, the forgotten one :P ). Or maybe CrapCom decides to make a decent Dio or a Josuke Higashikata... bah, let's stop dreaming, we are talking about CrapCom, the sprite recycling factory...At least Hayato,Strider and Captain Commando have some chance of appearing in the game, since they are already drawn...
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| Sano 434th Post
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| "Re(2):Don't hold your breath waiting for Bers" , posted Tue 17 Feb 10:01
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Oh dude, this should be so great !!! I would really love to see a "Jotaro vs Donovan" fight, just in case they "rescue" the vampire hunter at last... (Donovan, the forgotten one :P ). Or maybe CrapCom decides to make a decent Dio or a Josuke Higashikata... bah, let's stop dreaming, we are talking about CrapCom, the sprite recycling factory...At least Hayato,Strider and Captain Commando have some chance of appearing in the game, since they are already drawn...
Hmmm... while I love it when people sort of agree with me, I hate it when people call my favorite Video Game Company Crapcom... (Sano leaves before Flame War starts...)
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| Ishmael 1189th Post
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| "Re(2):Don't hold your breath waiting for Bers" , posted Tue 17 Feb 10:20
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Oh dude, this should be so great !!! I would really love to see a "Jotaro vs Donovan" fight, just in case they "rescue" the vampire hunter at last... (Donovan, the forgotten one :P ). Or maybe CrapCom decides to make a decent Dio or a Josuke Higashikata... bah, let's stop dreaming, we are talking about CrapCom, the sprite recycling factory...At least Hayato,Strider and Captain Commando have some chance of appearing in the game, since they are already drawn...
Are you expecting to see a lot of Capcom created sprites in a Sammy produced game?
As for what I want in the game, I agree with the suggestion that Leopardon needs to show except occasionally the little dog inside needs to be replaced with Dan.
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| talbaineric 5837th Post
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| "Re(1):Don't hold your breath waiting for Bers" , posted Tue 17 Feb 14:32
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The main problem is that TE doesn't like GG, and the reason for this overwhelming hate is hidden in Bridget's pants.
And on topic, if they run out of ideas, they can always use Guts, and put Iggy on Capcom's side... (Puck vs Pet Shop! Yey!)
But a nice GG vs Vampire would be far enough. And I need more Leopardon. Leopardon with his dog in the Sasquatch-like Gear, outside the gear with the dog, inside whithout, all alone and looking for friends... The world needs more Leopardon. And Devilot. Only one Devilot would be enough to stop the wars in the middle east.
Well, if Sammy gets the rights to put Berserk Characters in the game (ain't gonna happen, but...) Capcom should get the rights to stick in characters from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. Ain't gonna happen either... Kujo Jotaro will kick everybody's Ass.
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| HAYATO
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| "Re(1):They call me Diego" , posted Wed 18 Feb 00:24
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Not only I think it's unfair to call them Crapcom while talking of that excellent adaptation of a 6 years old manga, which turned out better than anybody dreamed it to be, but I also don't get what you mean by a decent Dio. Hell, if you don't like that version of Dio, what do you need?
I have no complaints about this particular game, it's one of my 3 favorite fighting games, being the other ones SF III and GG series. In fact, I prefer my PSX jap version of JoJo 3 than any KOF (well, 2003 looks promising, but it's just another damned Kof for me). By saying this about a decent Dio I was refering to a redrawn one, nothing more.It would be really sad to see Dio treated like a common Morrigan (and Morrigan doesn't deserve this either).
By the way, Jojo is a 18 years old manga now (it started on February 1986), although I think you already know it, Iggy. Or were you refering to the 5 years old videogame?
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And finally, what's the point in calling Capcom lazy about a game (Sammy vs C) in which even the details on their exact participation are unknown?
I call them Crapcom due to their laziness in other aspects, such as the "sprite recycling technique", the crappy SF Anniversary and the misusing of many old franchises (i.e. almost all CPS-1 ones) while they try to exploit some new ones to the limit (Resident Evil, Dino Crisis...). Well, that's just my opinion but, although Capcom is one of my favorite companies, I disagree with some issues in their "politics".There is a popular sentence here in Spain that says "The one who truly loves you will make you cry". I'm a die-hard Capcom fan(as anyone can see reading my posts), but I know they sometimes commit great mistakes, and I critizice them for those errors.
About this particular case... I think Sano has replied for me, and he has said enough about it.
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| Iggy 2801th Post
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| "Re(2):They call me Diego" , posted Wed 18 Feb 00:41
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By saying this about a decent Dio I was refering to a redrawn one, nothing more.It would be really sad to see Dio treated like a common Morrigan
The game will be on Atomiswave... If there is recycling, we can wait it on the GG side...
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By the way, Jojo is a 18 years old manga now (it started on February 1986), although I think you already know it, Iggy. Or were you refering to the 5 years old videogame?
I was refering to the end of part 3 (1992) when the game came out (I didn't bother to check the date of the game, by the way, and I think it's longer than what I said). What I meant was that they chose to adapt an old series (since they could have adapted part 5, or any manga running while they were doing the game).
(about the sprite recycling, the horse has been beaten to death.)(And my position on the question is easy to know : my favourite fighting game since Savior is Samurai Spirits Zero, and I'm waiting SS0S nearly as fanboyishly as Siren 1.5)
．．．人はパンツをセンタク機にほうり込むのは、どんな時だ？
答えは一つ。
．．．それを脱いだ時、だぜ。
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| Iggy 2808th Post
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| "Re(4):They call me Diego" , posted Wed 18 Feb 23:39
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Siren 1.5?
Siren kanzenban, Siren complete, Siren reloaded, Siren director's cut, Siren whatever it's called.
Something "that will please the fans" was hinted in Toyama's diary 4 days ago (the article was then erased, for mysterious reasons). It can be anything, Siren 2, Siren the movie, Siren the novel from the game from the novel, Siren the potato chips, but I decided it would be something like an upgrade to the original game, because, well, it's what I want.
I'm replaying the game now, and it's definitely my favourite game in the last 2,3 years.
．．．人はパンツをセンタク機にほうり込むのは、どんな時だ？
答えは一つ。
．．．それを脱いだ時、だぜ。
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| Mosquiton 1100th Post
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| "Re(3):Is it a possibility? (SamvC)" , posted Sat 21 Feb 10:54
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Duh, what was I thinking? With the way Sammy is moving it's people into positions of power at Sega it's likely that in addition to the GG cast the game makers could toss in Lau, Hibana, Sonic and any other character they felt like adding from the Sega roster.
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all i ask is a playable shinobi . . . the ORIGINAL shinobi
You mean Joe Musashi? I prefer Hotsuma (PS2 Shinobi) myself, because he looks so damn cool, but a pallete swap and some move tweaking could fix that.
I seriously doubt Sega characters would show up in a game called Sammy vs. Capcom, though. I'd really like to see a third design for Baiken with redder hair, more animation frames devoted to breasts, and plenty of hardcore claw-slinging action, if I had a magical wish-granting wand. Heh.
Well, since I have the thing waving around now...
I'd also dig a redrawn and seriously retooled (move wise) Nash, and an MMX style Zero. And as embarrassing as it is to like Cammy on this board, let's see a redrawn version of her with a new outfit, less retarded move priorities, a couple of new specials (including a spinning knuckle that's actually worth it's freaking command motion), and the badass MAXIMUM CAMMY.
Oh, and they really should throw a couple of Seven Samurai 20XX in there. Maybe.
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| VManOfMana 336th Post
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| "Re(3):I think for the Capcom side...." , posted Sat 21 Feb 13:10
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No Street Fighter-esque characters.
You want the game to fail?
No I don't...I just want characters that fit the formula of characters found in say Guilty Gear. I don't want characters like Ryu, Chun Li, Zangief and Guile AT ALL in this game...not even in the backgrounds. Their look and play style isn't at all like the Guilty Gear characters. What characters DO need to go in are the capcom characters that were in MvC2 like Captain Commando, Son Son, Ruby Heart and Strider...they have a look and feel that is at least remotely like the Guilty Gear characters. I'm tired of EVERY freak'n crossover with Capcom has the damn Street Fighter 2 cast.
The interesting thing is that we are all assuming that since Sammy is making the game it is going to play like Guilty Gear.
Who says the game has to play like Guilty Gear?
Sure, in MvC the Capcom characters were made to play like in Marvel Super Heroes, but that is not the case of CvS. In CvS both companies' characters were adapted to a new enigne, with the Capcom characters not playing like in SF2/Alpha/SF3 and the SNK players not playing like in SNK.
Who says the won't develop a new engine? Besides, even if the GG characters are recycled in a GG engine, the Capcom characters have to be redrawn, that also means that they will be redesigned as well.
If Jam and Millia can fight without weapons, why should Street Fighteres be unable to do so? What I would like is to not overuse Street Fighter characters, and I think there is a good chance for that. The reason SF characters were overused in Marvel and CvS games was because the Alpha sprites were already there (and Alpha on CvS = ugly). This is not the case of Sammy vs. Capcom, as the Alpha sprites are completely incompatible.
There are going to be Street Fighters for sure. Ryu and Chun Li are the staple characters, and I think an SF3 character (Alex/Yun/Yang/Makoto/Ibuki) and a grappler like (Zangief/Hugo) would be good. Other than that, characters from other games are more than welcome (fanboy request: Joe).
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| Shin_ATproof 997th Post
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| "Re(4):I think for the Capcom side...." , posted Sat 21 Feb 17:59:
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The interesting thing is that we are all assuming that since Sammy is making the game it is going to play like Guilty Gear.
Who says the game has to play like Guilty Gear?
Sure, in MvC the Capcom characters were made to play like in Marvel Super Heroes, but that is not the case of CvS. In CvS both companies' characters were adapted to a new enigne, with the Capcom characters not playing like in SF2/Alpha/SF3 and the SNK players not playing like in SNK.
Who says the won't develop a new engine? Besides, even if the GG characters are recycled in a GG engine, the Capcom characters have to be redrawn, that also means that they will be redesigned as well.
If Jam and Millia can fight without weapons, why should Street Fighteres be unable to do so? What I would like is to not overuse Street Fighter characters, and I think there is a good chance for that. The reason SF characters were overused in Marvel and CvS games was because the Alpha sprites were already there (and Alpha on CvS = ugly). This is not the case of Sammy vs. Capcom, as the Alpha sprites are completely incompatible.
There are going to be Street Fighters for sure. Ryu and Chun Li are the staple characters, and I think an SF3 character (Alex/Yun/Yang/Makoto/Ibuki) and a grappler like (Zangief/Hugo) would be good. Other than that, characters from other games are more than welcome (fanboy request: Joe).
Yup, you're right...we don't know if the game is going to play like Guilty Gear. But I think I speak for everyone in saying that there is a more than likely chance of seeing most if not all Guilty Gear characters in the game.
My argument isn't only from a gameplay point of view but from an artistic point. I think if Sammy vs Capcom were a house I'd say not only would Street Fighter characters have no room to say but shouldn't be let in...ever. Not a single character in the Street Fighter universe looks, plays or acts like any of the characters in Guilty Gear. Which is why even with the exaggerated powers they were given in the Marvel/Capcom crossovers wouldn't be enough because they would still stand out...sorry but I honestly do not see how characters like Ryu, Chunli, Alex, Ibuki or even Gill would ever possibly fit in a game where the cast fights you with weapons such as Hair, Shadow, Poolcue, Anchor, Ghosts or Guitars and instad of simply attacking with just special kicks and punches and grappling or shooting out Ki attacks attack you with Tatami mats, demons coming out of the ground, Teddybears, Dolphins and Whales or poke you in the ass with a scalpel.
The reason the Capcom and SNK games work out OK together because the style of the characters is similar enough.
Capcom has a large and beautiful universe of characters to choose from outside of the Street Fighter world to have in a game full of Guilty Gear characters. It makes absolutely no sense to not use the Darkstalkers, Warzard, Dungeons & Dragons or characters other characters from various other Capcom games found in MvC2 like Jin, Strider and Captain Commando. Hell what about more recent characters like Viewtiful Joe or Dante!?!? Capcom would have enough characters to represent their side in the game. Not a single damn Street Fighter characters has to be in the game.
Edit: I dunno...I may just be craaaazy Shin ATproof with his whacky view on Crossovers but this is how I feel the cast should be.
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| NARUTO 2176th Post
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| "Re(5):I think for the Capcom side...." , posted Sun 22 Feb 02:08
So far I agree on Shin ATproof opinion.
It's not a problem of gameplay or graphisms, it's just that the "realistic" style of the SF series doesn't totaly match with the GG "fantasy".
Of course this way most of us are expecting a Vampire vs GG game and Mvc characters will maybe fit better. But IMO there still some execption in the SF cast, SF games are full of "unrealistic" freaks that can be used.
Blanka, Necro, Twelve, Oro, are some of them, finaly since the game is a cross over, why not crossing characters themselves??
I mean why not a Ryu in a futuristic like kimono, why to an alex in a Potemkin look a like suit? Why not a "normal" chinese dress for Jam, why not "normal" suited Sol with a "normal" sword?
I even don't talk about crazy fan things like Zappa's ghost to be changed for Darkstalker ghost or a Robo Dan...
Anyway, all kind of characters can be used if they use them wisely and with some originality, even if the vampire/MvC cast fit better.
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| Iggy 2823th Post
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| "Re(5):I think for the Capcom side...." , posted Sun 22 Feb 03:00
I think the only reason why we shouldn't agree with Shin ATproof here is that he's totally right. Of course, a few Vapire characters plus Devilot, The Bone family's little brother (BABOU!), Dante, Samanosuke , Rain, Joe (the Viewtiful one) etc etc would be the best thing ever.
But we know it won't happen. We know people out there think "hey! Jam and Chunli are chinese and fight with their kicks!" and "Why use versatile and interesting characters like Victor or Sasquatch, or even a new character like BABOU when we can have Zangief as the charismatic Capcom grappler?" and "If Ryu/Ken/Gouki (other SF2 character + Sakura) is not in the game, I won't even play it".
In other words, if we wait for the most diverse and awesome casting in universe, we may be badly disapointed.
．．．人はパンツをセンタク機にほうり込むのは、どんな時だ？
答えは一つ。
．．．それを脱いだ時、だぜ。
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| VManOfMana 341th Post
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| "Re(5):I think for the Capcom side...." , posted Sun 22 Feb 18:44:
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My argument isn't only from a gameplay point of view but from an artistic point. I think if Sammy vs Capcom were a house I'd say not only would Street Fighter characters have no room to say but shouldn't be let in...ever. Not a single character in the Street Fighter universe looks, plays or acts like any of the characters in Guilty Gear. Which is why even with the exaggerated powers they were given in the Marvel/Capcom crossovers wouldn't be enough because they would still stand out...sorry but I honestly do not see how characters like Ryu, Chunli, Alex, Ibuki or even Gill would ever possibly fit in a game where the cast fights you with weapons such as Hair, Shadow, Poolcue, Anchor, Ghosts or Guitars and instad of simply attacking with just special kicks and punches and grappling or shooting out Ki attacks attack you with Tatami mats, demons coming out of the ground, Teddybears, Dolphins and Whales or poke you in the ass with a scalpel.
The reason the Capcom and SNK games work out OK together because the style of the characters is similar enough.
I would totally agree with you with your argument except for one thing: you are not considering the Alpha sprites in the Marvel case.
In the Marvel crossovers, the way the supers were modified had a limitation: the Alpha sprites. Even though the attacks were different by making them bigger and stronger, the animations were still pretty much the same, meaning that the attack upgrade could be pretty much done only in size: Kikoshou -> puffball; Senretsu Kyaku -> more kicks; Shinkuu Hadoken -> beam; Shoryureppa -> higher; FAB -> higher; Sonic Hurricane -> wider. I could go on and on.
This limitation no longer exist in Sammy vs. Capcom. Moves can be completely modified, with new animations, priorities, ranges, etc. (although it would make sense to make the somewhat similar to their original move). And who says that new moves and supers cannot be done? Shichisei Senkuu Kyaku is an example. If Chun Li was 99% redone for a game with a somewhat similar engine (Alpha -> 3S) and then 70% redone again (3S -> CvS2), why it cannot be done for SAMvC?
Characters like Viewtiful Joe and Dante will have to be completely redesigned as well if they are to be included, and I could argue that they have less useful moves than 3S Ryu and Chun Li. This is a chance to see Street Fighters to a whole new level. What I imagine is not a Alpha -> Marvel add-on. What I think on is a complete overhaul. I think on Chun Li looking like this
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while in mid-air. Or Ryu doing some sort of Joudan Sokutou Geri - Shoryuken combinations.
On what I 100% agree is that there should not be too many Street Fighters. I would put 4 as a limit.
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| NARUTO 2179th Post
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| "Re(6):I think for the Capcom side...." , posted Mon 23 Feb 01:56:
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On what I 100% agree is that there should not be too many Street Fighters. I would put 4 as a limit.
Well IMO They can add street fighter characters, but not only SF characters, and they need to choose them or "adjust" them wisely.
For exemple new sprite with a GG like clothes and design, or to chosse half-freak characters like Blanka, Necro and such.
Many people wish to see Star gladiators characters but the only difference between SF and SG characters are the weapon.
Should CapVSSam turn into a samurai like game??? And if the originality is to choose between weaponed characters and some who aren't??
IMO I'm just wishing for an original cast and I don't care if they are SF, SG, or other characters as long as they didn't put in 10 shoto's or the Bison,sagat,vega,balrog team...
Finaly if everyone have some fear about the Capcom cast, we can have some on the Sammy cast too. Since we don't who wich game they will use, I'll only talk about GG characters, but here again we already know every one too. There isn't as much choice here and I already fear absolutly no originality (hope I'm wrong)...
Still there is characters who can surprise us, Like Iggy said leopaldon could be used for a boss (toned down of course) and we know that The MAN have some people working for him, how about seeing those since we have already fight I-no that makes 2 characters left, there is this Fanny characters from the GG petit games and I don't talk about THE MAN himself....
Really they can surprise us and I hope so.
It just depend on the staff will they make an easy game for easy money or did they take some risk?? Even if IMO an original cast is less risky that a boring one...
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| Sano 452th Post
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| "Re(8):I think for the Capcom side...." , posted Mon 23 Feb 09:33:
I agree with no SF Characters, but that's just not going to happen. Darkstalkers never sold that well outside of Japan and Guilty Gear has a 'Niche' Market in the US at best. GG vs DS would only make real money in Japan, and Sammy and Capcom would be silly to not hink globally. But there has to be some balance, like all previous crossovers have had. I don't want to see Guilty Gear vs All of Capcom. The game should mostly be Guilty Gear vs. Darkstalkers. For every Capcom Character that appears who is not a Darkstalker, someone from Sammy/Arc Systems who is not from Guilty Gear should show up as well.
Honestly, even SNK doesn't have as many characters that match up against Capcom Characters. The only game so far that had someone to match up against almost everybody from Capcom was MVC2 because Capcom could pull from lots of Marvel Comics.
As far as Match Ups/Rivalries, the only game that really gave everybody a rival was SVC for the NGP. Outside of the few rivalries indicated by Artwork or the SVC Intro or special introductary Animations, you can pretty much make your own rivalries which is what most people do anyway. Example, Yamazaki in CVS 1. You can match him up with a bunch of people.
Yamazaki vs Dhalsim - Both stretch
Yamazaki vs Balrog(Ninja) - Both Insane Killers
Yamazaki vs Mike Bison - Both thugs
So forget rivalries. Just toss in a bunch of characters and if there is enough balance people will figure it out on their own. They never had any rivalries for the Marvel series and it didn't really bother anybody as people still said, "Ryu vs Magneto" and such.
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| Iggy 2835th Post
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| "Re(8):I think for the Capcom side...." , posted Mon 23 Feb 11:38
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Anita will be the secret hidden boss who will crush anyone who goes against her.
And I predict that if Leopardon is in the game, they will stop fighting and begin to make crowns of flowers to each other.
As for the sprites... I wonder how many GG quality sprite they can manage to draw in the year (the 2 years?) of developpement, even with people from both companies involved. Because for each Sammy - but - non - GG - character in the game, we will have one Capcom character less...
Then, maybe they are aiming big. Maybe they think the Sammy side will bring them the korean fans and some from other asian countries where they may be popular, while the Capcom side would bring in the occidental market... Who knows? Maybe Sammy went bigger than SNK wordwide and we didn't know?
But then, we may be completely wrong. Maybe the game will use the GG engine, maybe it will use the Rumble Fish one, maybe the Dolphin Blue engine, maybe the one of that pachinko machine that achieved rebirth in the Pure Earth of the West...
．．．人はパンツをセンタク機にほうり込むのは、どんな時だ？
答えは一つ。
．．．それを脱いだ時、だぜ。
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| Time Mage 1809th Post
Silver Carpet V.I.P- Platinum Executive
| "Re(6):I think for the Capcom side...." , posted Tue 24 Feb 04:30
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Viewtiful Joe.
That would feel me with happiness.
I think, as many others here, that a small share of SF characters should be included, let's say 4 or 5, but no more. Ryu and Chun Li are 99.99% sure, and the others... I would like to see some variety, and if possible, at least two SFIII chars.
The rest of the cast could be composed by a lot of characters that are not SF: Dante (this is a must in my opinion), Viewtiful Joe (also), Kyosuke, Batsu, Hyo, Kyoko, Hayato, Rain, Megaman, Zero, Morrigan, Demitri, Felicia, Donovan, Jedah, Alastor (from VJ), Jin Saotome, Devilot, a Tyrant, etc, etc, etc... Capcom has a very wide variety of non-SF characters to use.
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