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| OmegaDog 1087th Post
 
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|  "Re(6):Crimson Room flash game"
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Poked at it for over an hour, and I'm maddeningly stuck... After you've placed the second ring on the box and gotten the tape and the battery, what do you do? Where's the hotspot? Why am I letting a little flash game get to me? LORD WHY
There's another annoyingly-located hotspot to manage. Truth be told, I only got to it after clicking around everywhere in frustration.
Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
[EDIT: As Gojira mentioned,] You'll have to look between the yellow bedpost and the mattress. To do that, face the bed, lift the pillow, and click right where the lower-left corner of the pillow's shadow (on the yellow bedpost) meets the mattress. There you'll find what you need to continue.
End of Spoiler
While I did feel a bit of a sense of accomplishment once I was out, I'm not too fond of the concept of not leaving any clue that small, almost-impossibly-noticable hotspots exist.
What are all of your opinions on the game?
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[this message was edited by OmegaDog on Sun 15 Feb 13:54] |
| Undead Fred 1331th Post
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| "Re(10):Crimson Room flash game" , posted Mon 16 Feb 02:18
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I'd love to see a Japanase game of the kind of the good old LucasFilm/Arts or Sierra Graphic Adventures, but with the designs and anime cutscenes we all love. These kind of games were released in Japan? I know that at least Zak McKracken was released on FM Towns. So, these kind of games never were popular in Japan?
Man, I don't know if I ever want to play another one of those LucasArts-style games like that.... games like Day of the Tentacle required really really weird solutions to puzzles. I finished them, but... ugh. They're so fun, but so frustrating at the same time. "Okay, you killed the clown with the car keys and took his balloon. Now you have to take the balloon and put it into the cotton candy machine to cover it in sugar. Now release the balloon by your house and the birds will go after it and run into the tree. The blue chalk in the tree will fall down, and you take that put the dentures in your mouth and chew the chalk. Then you take the blue dentures and give them to the old man that was looking for his dentures. When he wears them people start craving blue raspberry candy...." By the time I figure things out in those games, I've either given up on it, or just turn around and get badly stuck again soon after that.
BLARGBLARG PLACE YOUR BETS!
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| Sensenic 1129th Post
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| "Re(10):Crimson Room flash game" , posted Mon 16 Feb 02:18
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Congrats to the people that managed to escape :D
Thanks! ^_^
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There's another annoyingly-located hotspot to manage. Truth be told, I only got to it after clicking around everywhere in frustration.
While I did feel a bit of a sense of accomplishment once I was out, I'm not too fond of the concept of not leaving any clue that small, almost-impossibly-noticable hotspots exist.
What are all of your opinions on the game?
Indeed, those damn hotspots... should've been more about thinking (like when finding the safe key number) and less about clicking. But it was nice. And weird, too.
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I had a good time playing it. You don't usually see Japanese people doing these kind of games, and the guy is working on a new room!
I'd love to see a Japanase game of the kind of the good old LucasFilm/Arts or Sierra Graphic Adventures, but with the designs and anime cutscenes we all love. These kind of games were released in Japan? I know that at least Zak McKracken was released on FM Towns. So, these kind of games never were popular in Japan?
Uh-huh, I'd also like to see a graphic adventure with Jap style... the closest thing to that I've tried is Konami's Shadow of Memories, which is more or less some kind of graphic adventure, only that it's too linear and easy.
I wonder... maybe it could be "fan done", by using RPGMaker and taking out all combats leaving only talking and objects. And making it interesting, of course. Hmmmmm... Sounds terribly hard.
Oboromaru. Yup seems they're all "one-eyed" masked guys now. Just coincidence.
Damn boredom that can kill you with a sword!
A friend of mine talking about elves in LOTR
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| OmegaDog 1091th Post
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| "Konami's Snatcher (& other Kojima adventures)" , posted Mon 16 Feb 03:13:
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I had a good time playing it. You don't usually see Japanese people doing these kind of games, and the guy is working on a new room!
I'd love to see a Japanase game of the kind of the good old LucasFilm/Arts or Sierra Graphic Adventures, but with the designs and anime cutscenes we all love. These kind of games were released in Japan? I know that at least Zak McKracken was released on FM Towns. So, these kind of games never were popular in Japan?
Uh-huh, I'd also like to see a graphic adventure with Jap style... the closest thing to that I've tried is Konami's Shadow of Memories, which is more or less some kind of graphic adventure, only that it's too linear and easy.
Konami's Snatcher, from Hideo Kojima. I got to play through the Sega CD version (the only one in English), and I really enjoyed it. It actually wasn't point-and-click -- instead, the player chose actions written in text in the lower half of the screen, and the player was presented with occasional simple shooting sequences. But yeah, the story was well-done (if cheesy at times), the graphics were a nice anime-style, and the voice acting was, for the most part, damn good.
Only things I didn't like were that the last chapter had very little choice; it was almost one big cinema scene. Also, the game didn't tie up a few major loose ends, which would've left room for a sequel -- but as far as I know, there never was one. (Policenauts was a different game, no?)
Still, if you want a Japanese-source adventure-type game, seek this game out. [And yeah, I've also heard awesome things about Policenauts -- I'm pretty certain at least someone here can give impressions on the game. I'd get the Saturn version, even if it's only in Japanese -- if only budget wasn't so tight... ]
"I must pay for my past sins... Let's fight!""I have no choice. You will lose!" | CCT: NEXT STAGE IS 16 |
[this message was edited by OmegaDog on Mon 16 Feb 03:20] |
| Spoon
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| "Re(1):Konami's Snatcher (& other Kojima adven" , posted Mon 16 Feb 03:34
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I had a good time playing it. You don't usually see Japanese people doing these kind of games, and the guy is working on a new room!
I'd love to see a Japanase game of the kind of the good old LucasFilm/Arts or Sierra Graphic Adventures, but with the designs and anime cutscenes we all love. These kind of games were released in Japan? I know that at least Zak McKracken was released on FM Towns. So, these kind of games never were popular in Japan?
Uh-huh, I'd also like to see a graphic adventure with Jap style... the closest thing to that I've tried is Konami's Shadow of Memories, which is more or less some kind of graphic adventure, only that it's too linear and easy.
Konami's Snatcher, from Hideo Kojima. I got to play through the Sega CD version (the only one in English), and I really enjoyed it. It actually wasn't point-and-click -- instead, the player chose actions written in text in the lower half of the screen, and the player was presented with occasional simple shooting sequences. But yeah, the story was well-done (if cheesy at times), the graphics were a nice anime-style, and the voice acting was, for the most part, damn good.
Only things I didn't like were that the last chapter had very little choice; it was almost one big cinema scene. Also, the game didn't tie up a few major loose ends, which would've left room for a sequel -- but as far as I know, there never was one. (Policenauts was a different game, no?)
Still, if you want a Japanese-source adventure-type game, seek this game out. [And yeah, I've also heard awesome things about Policenauts -- I'm pretty certain at least someone here can give impressions on the game. I'd get the Saturn version, even if it's only in Japanese -- if only budget wasn't so tight... ]
I don't know who you are, but WTH are you doing up posting at this hour. Only I'm allowed to be that stupid.
One thing which obthers me about games which give you text options is that sometimes it feels like it's just a matter of time for you to select the right choice to get things going. On the other hand, the problem with the all-visual ones are those POX-RIDDEN $#*UREPOAFNUD*&$#*@Q$#**RANDOM LETTERS*JKAFDHPOIVHDSFUPIEHFUPFHED hot spots, which can sometimes be in very unintuitive places. And then there are the command prompt ones, where you could screw up because of a finicky parser: it's like all the frustration of hotspots, only in a more or less abstract form! Delicious!
Dragonsphere. Now that was a good point-and-click adventure. I should say OMG SPOILER HERE but whatever, the game is so old. Anyway, it deserves mention not only for its fantastic animation, story, etc. but because of this amulet that you use whose power can only be invoked by "one who has been declared dead". So you, being the non-fighter that you are, have a showdown with the evil younger royal brother, who laughs at your inability to hold and sword and says, "Say your prayers, for you are already dead!" I kid you not, in this game's land of magic and fantasy lurks FIST OF THE NORTH STAR, baby. If this game were ever fully translated into Japanese (speech included), I swear I would buy it again just for the chance to hear "omae wa mo, shinderu"...
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| OmegaDog 1092th Post
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| "Re(2):Konami's Snatcher (& other Kojima adven" , posted Mon 16 Feb 04:36
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I don't know who you are, but WTH are you doing up posting at this hour. Only I'm allowed to be that stupid.
I've had my sleep. I've been able to throw my sleep schedule a bit out of the ordinary.
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One thing which obthers me about games which give you text options is that sometimes it feels like it's just a matter of time for you to select the right choice to get things going. On the other hand, the problem with the all-visual ones are those POX-RIDDEN $#*UREPOAFNUD*&$#*@Q$#**RANDOM LETTERS*JKAFDHPOIVHDSFUPIEHFUPFHED hot spots, which can sometimes be in very unintuitive places. And then there are the command prompt ones, where you could screw up because of a finicky parser: it's like all the frustration of hotspots, only in a more or less abstract form! Delicious!
There are puzzles that do make sense, though -- enough that I generally enjoy adventure/puzzle type games. Most times when I'm stuck, it's simply a matter of logic that, should I look up an FAQ, I'll slap my forehead for not coming up with the idea. Though there have been puzzles where I've wondered how the hell anyone could come up with a solution. [Specific examples... I'll need to get back to you on that.]
As for Dragonsphere -- I'll need to see if I can locate it.
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| IkariDC
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| "Re(1):Konami's Snatcher (& other Kojima adven" , posted Mon 16 Feb 05:01
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Uh-huh, I'd also like to see a graphic adventure with Jap style... the closest thing to that I've tried is Konami's Shadow of Memories, which is more or less some kind of graphic adventure, only that it's too linear and easy.
Konami's Snatcher, from Hideo Kojima. I got to play through the Sega CD version (the only one in English), and I really enjoyed it. It actually wasn't point-and-click -- instead, the player chose actions written in text in the lower half of the screen, and the player was presented with occasional simple shooting sequences. But yeah, the story was well-done (if cheesy at times), the graphics were a nice anime-style, and the voice acting was, for the most part, damn good.
Only things I didn't like were that the last chapter had very little choice; it was almost one big cinema scene. Also, the game didn't tie up a few major loose ends, which would've left room for a sequel -- but as far as I know, there never was one. (Policenauts was a different game, no?)
Still, if you want a Japanese-source adventure-type game, seek this game out. [And yeah, I've also heard awesome things about Policenauts -- I'm pretty certain at least someone here can give impressions on the game. I'd get the Saturn version, even if it's only in Japanese -- if only budget wasn't so tight... ]
Of course I played Snatcher! I love it! ^0^
Damn you Kojima, for not wanting to publish Policenauts in english after Metal Gear Solid because it was "old work"...
Yeah, Snatcher kind of games and Visual Novels is the closest thing, but you "just" select options and dialog lines. I'm not saying these are boring gamaes, I wish there were more games like these translated to english.
But I was asking about games like Monkey Island, Day of the Tentacle, Sam & Max, Simon The Sorcerer, Leisure Suit Larry, Space Quest, King's Quest, Gobliiins,...
You know, point and click, talk with people, pick up items, use them, combine them,... Yes, there were some absurd puzzles to solve in those games, but it was incredibly rewarding once solved. And you were constantly playing them, trying everything and thinking of puzzles even when sleeping! In most japanese adventure games, there are no complex puzzles as what we can see in the forementioned games. You just get the items at some point and use them or give them to the right person, and it is always kind of obvius. It's not like you have to interact with things or characters for getting them.
I don't think that RPGMaker is the right engine for trying a game like those. I remember some DOS based engines for doing Graphic Adventures, but I don't know any Windows friendly engine.
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| Sensenic 1131th Post
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| "Re(2):Konami's Snatcher (& other Kojima adven" , posted Mon 16 Feb 05:46
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But I was asking about games like Monkey Island, Day of the Tentacle, Sam & Max, Simon The Sorcerer, Leisure Suit Larry, Space Quest, King's Quest, Gobliiins,...
You know, point and click, talk with people, pick up items, use them, combine them,...
Graphic Adventures.
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Yes, there were some absurd puzzles to solve in those games, but it was incredibly rewarding once solved. And you were constantly playing them, trying everything and thinking of puzzles even when sleeping! In most japanese adventure games, there are no complex puzzles as what we can see in the forementioned games. You just get the items at some point and use them or give them to the right person, and it is always kind of obvius. It's not like you have to interact with things or characters for getting them.
I don't think that RPGMaker is the right engine for trying a game like those. I remember some DOS based engines for doing Graphic Adventures, but I don't know any Windows friendly engine.
Yup, I know. It was just a quick thought of how could you possibly do GAs in a Japanese style, and only RPGMaker taking out the battles and the leveling up came to mind. I know there are parsers (that's their name I think) out there to make GAs appropriately, but not with a Japanese style in the sprites, art, locations and whatnot... And that's what you and I'd like to try out. Not a Jap-style adventure (lotsa them out there), but a GRAPHIC adv, that you defined so well.
Oboromaru. Yup seems they're all "one-eyed" masked guys now. Just coincidence.
Damn boredom that can kill you with a sword!
A friend of mine talking about elves in LOTR
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| IkariDC
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| "Re(3):Konami's Snatcher (& other Kojima adven" , posted Mon 16 Feb 06:08
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Graphic Adventures.
Yes, I used that term the first time I asked for them. I just thought that naming some games would be better instead.
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Yup, I know. It was just a quick thought of how could you possibly do GAs in a Japanese style, and only RPGMaker taking out the battles and the leveling up came to mind. I know there are parsers (that's their name I think) out there to make GAs appropriately, but not with a Japanese style in the sprites, art, locations and whatnot... And that's what you and I'd like to try out. Not a Jap-style adventure (lotsa them out there), but a GRAPHIC adv, that you defined so well.
Anyways, I don't find the graphics of RPGMaker suitable for a Graphic Adventure, but hey, If someone manages to make an interesting game with it, it's fine with me!
Yeah, parsers, I think that's the name too. I guess you'll have to draw everything by yourself if you want a Graphic Adventure with Japanese style... There are some talented people in the board, maybe we could start a project or something like that ;)
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