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| IkariDC
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|  "Re(2):Resident Evil 4 ?"
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I'm hoping the president's daughter stuff is a mistranslation, for the sake of the game's 2004 setting, if nothing else.
I can see them now, hundreds of "OH MY GOD! THEY CHANGED IT! WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY ANYMORE" spoony bards.
*shudders*
EDIT: Leon is only a bad enough dude to rescue the president's daughter :(
I'm surprised that the scenario was completely reworked... but I think the MBox might be pulling a few things out of its ass. They list the source as Jeaux-France, which doesn't say anything about daughters of presidents. Check it out.
And man, Game Informer has some shitty writing.
Well, if you are always saying that MagicBox isn't very reliable, it may be true. Can you tell me some examples of what they pulled out of their ass in the past? I dunno, I like the site, I don't know any other site with almost daily updates and images about games from all the popular systems.
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| Luisinan 756th Post
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| "Re(3):Resident Evil 4 ?" , posted Sat 14 Feb 06:04
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I'm hoping the president's daughter stuff is a mistranslation, for the sake of the game's 2004 setting, if nothing else.
I can see them now, hundreds of "OH MY GOD! THEY CHANGED IT! WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY ANYMORE" spoony bards.
*shudders*
EDIT: Leon is only a bad enough dude to rescue the president's daughter :(
I'm surprised that the scenario was completely reworked... but I think the MBox might be pulling a few things out of its ass. They list the source as Jeaux-France, which doesn't say anything about daughters of presidents. Check it out.
And man, Game Informer has some shitty writing.
Well, if you are always saying that MagicBox isn't very reliable, it may be true. Can you tell me some examples of what they pulled out of their ass in the past? I dunno, I like the site, I don't know any other site with almost daily updates and images about games from all the popular systems.
Yeah, I don't know why the magic box get bashed so often here. I mean, sometimes they post rumors, and sometimes they post news that is later proved wrong. But I don't think they do it maliciously or very often. Its not a perfect site but they do credit their sources (usually) and they give us free famitsu scores!
I mean, there are sites that are lot worse the then the box. Fanboy ranting sites that claim themselves to be legit and all of that.
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| DarkZero 625th Post
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| "Re(4):Resident Evil 4 ?" , posted Sat 14 Feb 14:59
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'Would take hours...
It happens fairly often, and yeah, I hope they don't do it on purpose. Then again, I'm not sure it would make any difference if they did.
there are sites that are lot worse the then the box.
Yeah, but a lot of people rely on the Magic Box. For some reason.
Your childish responses have no merit. I've been visiting the Magic Box for about two years now and the only news I've ever seen disproven on their site was explicitly marked UNCONFIRMED or RUMOR. That didn't stop it from being held up as an example of why Magic Box is unreliable on this board in the past though, because some people apparently have a problem with them that just can't be quantified by logic or fact.
As for the scenario change, this certainly wouldn't be the first time that the game has been completely overhauled. If you think back to the original previews and interviews for Devil May Cry, you'll remember that the castle and some other areas of the game were originally created for Resident Evil 4, which was to be released a couple of years ago for the PS2. They just decided to turn them into a completely different game after its mechanics became too action-heavy and Shinji Mikami noticed a beta tester testing a bug in Onimusha: Warlords that later became the "knock the enemy into the air and keep shooting/slicing" attack in DMC. So while it's very odd for a game to completely overhaul itself midway through development, changing the scenario, the enemies, the locations, and even the main character's clothing, it's not very odd for THIS game to do that.
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| Professor 1977th Post
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| "Re(3):Resident Evil 4 ?" , posted Sun 15 Feb 03:50
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I'm hoping the president's daughter stuff is a mistranslation, for the sake of the game's 2004 setting, if nothing else.
I can see them now, hundreds of "OH MY GOD! THEY CHANGED IT! WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY ANYMORE" spoony bards.
*shudders*
EDIT: Leon is only a bad enough dude to rescue the president's daughter :(
I'm surprised that the scenario was completely reworked... but I think the MBox might be pulling a few things out of its ass. They list the source as Jeaux-France, which doesn't say anything about daughters of presidents. Check it out.
And man, Game Informer has some shitty writing.
Well, if you are always saying that MagicBox isn't very reliable, it may be true. Can you tell me some examples of what they pulled out of their ass in the past? I dunno, I like the site, I don't know any other site with almost daily updates and images about games from all the popular systems.
Magic Box has gotten better than it was in its early years. The site had a history of releasing rumors and incorrect news alike, and users of this forum probably knew the site from back in those old days. And for the same reason, I never used it as a source. If I could find a good example, I'd set one up for display..
But I have to credit Tang for his amazing stamina, still being able to update his site at a consistant basis.
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| Undead Fred 1334th Post
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| "Re(2):Resident Evil 4 ?" , posted Mon 16 Feb 20:59
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Oh, and one more thing. If those poor villagers are just in a trance (as opposed to an irreversable undead state) i'm gonna feel pretty bad for blowing all their brains away.
Nah, my vote is that they ARE zombies. Just for the sake of not having to re-type all of this, I'm going to just paste from an IM where I was talking about it with Rugal...
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UF: I'm sure those villagers ARE the zombies.... they're just in the beginning stages of the virus taking hold.
Rugal: I bet that's the case.
Rugal: It's before they've started to rot.
UF: They're in the "Itchy. Tasty." stages of the disease.
Rugal: So they have a strong, overpowering desire to kill the non-infected.
UF: Or anyone. Heh heh.
Rugal: Each other, too, then, you think? Yeah, there will probably be corpses littering the area..
UF: Well, going on how that guy wrote in his diary, then yeah they would kill each other because they decided they had an "ugly face" and so on...
UF: You know, like another infected villager gets irritated at all with another one, they'll kill them.
Rugal: Yeah, I get it!
Rugal: They become hyper-agressive.
UF: And a stranger in town would definitely set them off in general. They wouldn't attack each other because they're familiar with each other, but if they get irritated, then they'd attack one of their own.
BLARGBLARG PLACE YOUR BETS!
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| DarkZero 628th Post
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| "Re(1):hmmm" , posted Mon 16 Feb 23:51
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Whith all the bitching going around lately("oh noes! I've seen a few screens of a game that won't be released in more than five months and it doesn't look like the old parts it WILL SUCK! I know because I've seen those screens. I hate capcom, I hate Resident Evil and I hate myself for being a stupid prick") I smell another Capcom Fighting All Stars 
Can't we have a thread about a Capcom game without someone taking a perfectly reasonable conversation and complaining about how everyone is "bitching" or "whining" about Capcom and then childishly putting words into other people's mouths? We're not saying the game will suck, but we're not absolutely THRILLED with it like you fanboys are. That's not trashing a game months before its release. It's just discussing it reasonably.
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Nah, my vote is that they ARE zombies. Just for the sake of not having to re-type all of this, I'm going to just paste from an IM where I was talking about it with Rugal...
That, or it will be similar to that episode of the '90s Outer Limits remake where everyone in a small town was infested with something that turned them into murderous psychopaths who could still think, act, and collaborate with their fellow psychopaths just like a normal human being. Either way, I doubt it will end up being very similar to Siren, and I think that the comparisons to that game are a little off-base.
I do miss the original concept, though (the post-DMC concept, that is). I've never been a big fan of the Resident Evil series, but I've managed to keep up with its storyline and I found the idea of Umbrella being controlled by murderous ghosts and shadow-people interesting. Hopefully some part of that will still be present in the game once you get past the initial "Why are these people trying to kill me?" part of the story.
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| Undead Fred 1335th Post
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| "Re(2):hmmm" , posted Tue 17 Feb 01:19
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That, or it will be similar to that episode of the '90s Outer Limits remake where everyone in a small town was infested with something that turned them into murderous psychopaths who could still think, act, and collaborate with their fellow psychopaths just like a normal human being. Either way, I doubt it will end up being very similar to Siren, and I think that the comparisons to that game are a little off-base.
I wasn't comparing it to Siren, actually. I was going off of what I knew of the T virus and how it affects people... You remember the diary in RE1 where you read along as one of the mansion's employees gets infected and begins turning into an angry zombie? I don't think it's off-base to draw those kinds of conclusions given the previous games. The way I see it, the villagers in RE4 seem like they would be heading down that road. We've heard that they appear to be in a trance, they want to kill Leon for some reason, and the screen shots showed some people that looked like they were standing around like zombies... Those sound like zombie symptoms to me. Heh heh.
If you remember the diary I keep talking about, he starts off just talking about playing poker and thinking the other guy (Scott, I think?) was cheating, then he mentions seeing a Hunter and so on, blah blah blah, he mentions the outbreak in the lab, he starts sounding a little more irritable, then he starts talking about tormenting the guard dogs, and so on until his mind starts degrading. That's when he mentions killing the poker buddy because he had an ugly face. He apparently eats him after that, then the next entry we read is "Itchy. Tasty." Personally, I think it's perfectly reasonable that the villagers are at least infected with the T virus. I hadn't read anything about Siren before I posted the IM conversation.
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| DarkZero 629th Post
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| "Re(3):hmmm" , posted Tue 17 Feb 01:24
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Wait a second. Muderous ghosts? Shadow people? Hey, can someone point me to an RE storyline site or faq? Or give me a synopsis. I always thought the RE storyline was intriguing but hey, its confusing too and I've only played bits and pieces of the game. Anyway, thank ya'll.
I was just referring to the original screenshots and scenario descriptions for Resident Evil 4. The story was about Leon being infected with one of the zombie viruses and going to the Umbrella Corp. HQ to find a cure, as well as the answers to everything that's going on. But from the trailers and screenshots, the stuff that he finds there was going to be very different from the standard Resident Evil fare. There were huge shadows that move on their own, people enveloped in shadows that don't become any clearer when you shine a light on them, and glowing blue ghosts that came flying down hallways at you with hooks and knives. GameSpot has a nice collection of screenshots, but Magic Box had a much clearer shot of the ghost that attacks Leon in this screenshot. It was floating toward him and wielding some sort of hook or scythe weapon. Unfortunately, most of the old previews for Resident Evil 4 on Magic Box now come up as 403 Forbidden for some reason.
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You think yelping and babling about(again not(only) this forum) how it's no RE/BH because the settings changed is reasonable? You know, I could understand if some of you played the game and say that it doesn't feel like RE or whatever. But judging a game from a few pictures and some UNCONFIRMED info(altough it doesn't matter if it is confirmed or not) is anything but reasonable. You think yelping and babling about(again not(only) this forum) how it's no RE/BH because the settings changed is reasonable? You know, I could understand if some of you played the game and say that it doesn't feel like RE or whatever. But judging a game from a few pictures and some UNCONFIRMED info(altough it doesn't matter if it is confirmed or not) is anything but reasonable.
Most of you will play it anyway :)
You're not making logical sense. You act as if they're pre-judging the game, but then say "Most of you will play it anyway"... which infers that everyone here is mature enough to reserve real judgement for after they've played the game. So obviously you're aware of the fact that they're just discussing the game and not pre-judging it... yet you still choose to make needless complaints about how we're all pre-judging the game.
And I conclude that you are a fanboy because you follow the basic formula for all of our fanboy problems on this board. Someone starts a thread about a Capcom game, someone else has the AUDACITY to maintain control of their excretory organs while talking about it, and then some kid decides that we're all bad, evil people that are "pre-judging", "Capcom bashing", or just "bitching about Capcom". Later, when confronted, they claim that they're not talking about us, but rather some OTHER people on some OTHER site. Right. Never heard that one before. No, sir.
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| CPSIII
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| "Re(4):hmmm" , posted Tue 17 Feb 02:09
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You're not making logical sense. You act as if they're pre-judging the game, but then say "Most of you will play it anyway"...
That you will play the game anyway was meant ironically because most of the time it works like that.
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which infers that everyone here is mature enough to reserve real judgement for after they've played the game.
The thing is that the first judgement will always be in the back of your head, the arguing about the game just results in a growing of the dislike for that specific game.
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So obviously you're aware of the fact that they're just discussing the game and not pre-judging it... yet you still choose to make needless complaints about how we're all pre-judging the game.
Well to a certain extent all msgboard discussions are needless(yes I notice the irony). Well you do, as I said earlier I don't specifically mean or direct this torwards any member of this board, wether you say you like or dislike the change which quite frankly is nothing you can be sure of because it is an unconfirmed information.
I still think that pre-judging a game without at least some legit info is not reasonable.
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And I conclude that you are a fanboy because you follow the basic formula for all of our fanboy problems on this board.
I am intrigued, let's see where this gets.
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Someone starts a thread about a Capcom game, someone else has the AUDACITY to maintain control of their excretory organs while talking about it, and then some kid decides that we're all bad, evil people that are "pre-judging", "Capcom bashing", or just "bitching about Capcom".
Aside from my age(I'm definitely not a kid anymore) I never specifically mentioned that somebody is bashing a capcom game or that somebody is bashing capcom, all I said that you are pre-judging a game(which by itself isn't anything bad 'cause otherwise you'd spend your money on alot of shit) for the wrong reason.
I wonder who's the paranoid now. Me, the "fanboy" or you, the fanboy hunter.
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Later, when confronted, they claim that they're not talking about us, but rather some OTHER people on some OTHER site. Right. Never heard that one before. No, sir.
Well I meant the general impression I got of the reactions to this news and since I saw it beginning here too and me being on this board that minute, I decided to post it. I am definitely a fanboy for posting what's currently on my mind. Yes, sir.
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such a nice couple.
