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"OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Mon 9 Feb 23:34post reply


...and this time it's not by Timm/Dini/Murakami, etc

It's brand new, "year one" sort of series. Comics Continuum has the images and the press release.

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0402/09/index.htm

So far, I like the logo a lot. Let's hope it's good. The original series were so good, it's going to be though for any other series to reach it's standards.

Also, Adam West as the Mayor! Just like in Family Guy. This must be a good sign.






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"Re(1):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 01:28post reply


it has big shoes to fill - the original batman TAS from the 90's is still one of my favorite all time animated series, but I still have high hopes for this new series.

I don't care who plays the mayor as long as luke skywalker still gets to be the joker.





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"Re(2):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 08:32post reply


Please don't suck... please don't suck... please don't suck...





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"Re(2):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 08:34post reply


wow, love the new character design of Bats; the Bruce Timm style has been done to death. It sure would be nice if it was darker and edgier this time around, since it's for Cartoon Network and the WB. I'm excited, but it has a lot to live up to when compared the the original series from the early 90s. The Edge (U2) is doing the theme song, hell yeahhhhh!





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"Re(3):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 08:59post reply


what did you guys think of the new batman series(the one in the future, with wayne just being on the sidelines?)






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"Re(4):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 09:01post reply


Not bad for the most part.

The Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker movie was pretty good.

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what did you guys think of the new batman series(the one in the future, with wayne just being on the sidelines?)







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"Re(4):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 09:05post reply


I liked Batman Beyond, even if the future was a little too bleak for my tastes. Still a great show nevertheless.

I wonder if the new Batman series will help us figure out which Robin is on Teen Titans -weither it's Tim Drake or Dick Grayson, since the creators of the show don't wish to say which Robin it is(if the show is even in regular DC Cartoon Continuity, though it would be the first WB DC Cartoon that had no relation to any of the other shows at that.)





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"Re(5):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 09:10post reply


Speaking of Continuity, with the new 20 year old bats confronting Catwoman since he already met her on the other show, methinks the new show will throw continuity to the winds.





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"Re(1):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 09:32post reply


quote:

Also, Adam West as the Mayor! Just like in Family Guy. This must be a good sign.



There's no mention of Adam West on that page. Is there another article with different information somewhere?





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"Re(5):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 09:56post reply


I don't think they're really going for continuity here... and it's unlikely this will just be a re-telling of Frank Miller's year one stories. From the sounds of it, it's Batman year one, set in modern times.





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"Re(6):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 10:07post reply


I loved batman beyond, I was actually pretty pissed when WB announced that they were going to start justice league instead of continue with beyond. I'm glad JL (second season especially) turned out so well.

about continuity - the WB/DC shows aren't too great about that. and with robin... I have no clue as to who it is in titans. behold!

batman TAS 1st robin = dick grayson
= grayson grows up to be nightwing

batman TAS 2nd robin = tim drake
› batman cameo on static shock: static asks where robin is, bats replies he's now leading the titans.
› robin on teen titans
› episode that shows future (season 2, ep 1) has robin grow up to be nightwing
= nightwing = tim drake

batman beyond: return of the joker
› tim drake quits crimefighting after incident with joker
› batman: mystery of the batwoman - tim drake appears as an older teen, still as robin.
= tim drake continues to be robin

plotholes abound! maybe I just analyze things too much.





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"Re(5):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 10:17post reply


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Not bad for the most part.

The Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker movie was pretty good.
Just waht I tought. The ROTJ mvie (well, the uncensored one) was amazing, in my humble opinion.





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"Re(2):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 10:19post reply


quote:

Also, Adam West as the Mayor! Just like in Family Guy. This must be a good sign.


There's no mention of Adam West on that page. Is there another article with different information somewhere?


http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0402/03/index.htm

Somehow he looks even more absurd in the accompanying shot than when he was wearing tights for a living.





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"Re(7):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 10:19:post reply


Further articles at Toon Zone and Zap2It (both very reliable, if you're not familiar with them).

The cast:
Bruce Wayne - Rino Romano (Peter Parker, Kyle Katarn, Darien from the Sailor Moon dub)
The Joker - Kevin Michael Richardson (Jolee Bindo from KOTOR, Captain Gantu from Lilo & Stitch, Scott Dolph from MGS2)
The Mayor - Adam West
The Penguin - Tom Kenny (Spongebob Squarepants, The Mayor from Powerpuff Girls, and Rin from FFX(-2)
Catwoman - Gina Gershon
Unnamed Detective - Ming Na (ER, Aki Ross from "The Spirits Within", Chun-Li from "Street Fighter: The Movie")

And doesn't Batman seem kinda... cel-shaded?





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"Re(2):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 10:21post reply


Here it is!

http://newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8977



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There's no mention of Adam West on that page. Is there another article with different information somewhere?







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"Re(6):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 10:50:post reply


quote:
I don't think they're really going for continuity here... and it's unlikely this will just be a re-telling of Frank Miller's year one stories. From the sounds of it, it's Batman year one, set in modern times.



it's Batman: Year Three, from what the article says.

and who cares for continuity, heck, they're starting over again with the new Batman movie coming out anyway(which is a good thing).





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"Re(8):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 11:19post reply


quote:

The cast:
Bruce Wayne - Rino Romano (Peter Parker, Kyle Katarn, Darien from the Sailor Moon dub)



which sailor moon dub? I think there were 3/4 dariens. there was the first one for a couple episodes, then one that lasted the for the rest of 1st season and all of R up until the end of the original run. when toonami started SMR up again, there was a new voice for darien.

either way, no batman will ever compare to kevin conroy.





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"Re(7):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 11:33post reply


I was going for it being Tim on Teen Titans, but given they showed him older as Nightwing, and Tim's fate in Batman Beyond will happen as reinforced by the Static episode where he goes into the future which will stop Tim from becoming a Nightwing, and he called Bats his father on TT, (Bats is more of a father to Dick then Tim), and in the comics during that incarnation of the team it was Dick, not to mention Murakami wanted to do a show of a redesigned teen Robin back in the day and Dick is more popular, I think Robin on Teen Titans is Jason Todd... ACK! So confused - I give up.





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"Re(8):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 18:46:post reply


I think I know why he looks like that. Comics continuum has anounced that the character designer for the series is Jeff Matsuda.

(I didn't notice his signature in the promo art)

His character design in the Jackie Chan adventures sort of looks like that.

For me, now knowing about Matsuda, this is getting better...

Edit: the toys look weird.
http://www.wizarduniverse.com/_gfx_/magazines/toyfare/TF80-batman.jpg


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"Re(7):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 19:00post reply


quote:
batman TAS 2nd robin = tim drake
› batman cameo on static shock: static asks where robin is, bats replies he's now leading the titans.
› robin on teen titans
› episode that shows future (season 2, ep 1) has robin grow up to be nightwing
= nightwing = tim drake



I haven't read the whole thread yet but, it's not confirmed or denied Tim Drake is TT's Robin.

Consider:
-We don't know when TT is set (could very well be Grayson)
-We don't know that Grayson wouldn't give Tim the Nightwing costume at some point allowing Bruce to take in a new Robin and Grayson to grow into a new persona again.

Also worth considering:
The new Batman is done in a style very much like TT, and is already confirmed to be out of the BTAS/JL continity (and Static Shock is techincally not either one as well) so TT and 'the Batman' could very well be in the same world, a world in which TT's Robin makes total sense.






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"Re(8):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 19:08:post reply


quote:

Also worth considering:
The new Batman is done in a style very much like TT, and is already confirmed to be out of the BTAS/STAS/JL continity (and Static Shock is techincally not either one as well) so TT and 'the Batman' could very well be in the same world, a world in which TT's Robin makes total sense.



but the current (tv) incarnation of the league has appeared a number of times - so have batman, terry mcguiness batman, and last week, green lantern (stewart), have all appeared on static shock.

but honestly... I think I just put too much thought into these things. I should study for midterms.





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"Re(9):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 19:43:post reply


I don't think I can imagine anyone other than Luke Skywalker doing The Joker in an animated series.

I also think the new Batman looks too much like the old corny Batman from the 60's. I was hoping for something much darker and modern looking.





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"Re(10):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 20:31post reply


Um... a Batman in his mid-20s in hs third year... also, young bachelor Bruce Wayne. Cell shaded look...

As much as I totally love the 1990s animated series (well, up until the later episodes), I don't have too many high hopes. For some reason, I think this is going to be made into a campy pop-culture/corporate mass-consumption series. Think of what happened to MTV Spiderman (not a bad series, but not that great IMHO either).

Then again, I hope they prove me wrong.





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"Re(9):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Tue 10 Feb 20:55post reply


quote:
but the current (tv) incarnation of the league has appeared a number of times - so have batman, terry mcguiness batman, and last week, green lantern (stewart), have all appeared on static shock.



Look at it this way:

In X-Men Vs Street Fighter and I believe MSHvsSF as well Akuma knows the secret of Wolverine's past... does that mean the Udon SF comics are Marvel cannon? (or since Marvel owns Malibu, their SF comics are part of the X-universe AND offical SF cannon)

Although the TV JLA(minus Supes and Wonder Woman)/Joker/Tim Drake Robin/Batman/Terry Batman/Harley Quin/Posion Ivy/Bullock/Gordon have appeared on Static Shock, it's acknowledged it's not part of the true cannon. (the Dini/Timm series are their own world, 'the Batman' is going to be it's own world with no link to the old series, Static Shock is it's own as well although it crosses over with the others with no conflict... it's a kid show so it doesn't need to worry about continuality so long as it's fun... TT could either be it's own world or co-exist with another, as of now it's unknown and Robin is simply "Robin" and no one is willing to say otherwise)

Yeah, too much thought into this...






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"Update" , posted Wed 11 Feb 23:20post reply


Update from Comics Continuum

Alfred - Alastair Duncan (Mortanius from Legacy of Kain: Defiance, and also, I believe, one of the Watcher enforcers from Buffy Season 4/Angel Season 1, which means that he either IS British or just sounds like it)
Evan Bennett/Clayface - Steve Harris (Eugene Young from "The Practice")

Also, the names of Ming Na's unnamed detective is "Detective Ellen Yin" and Adam West's character is "Mayor Grange" (I never caught the mayor's name in the original, so I don't know if this has any significance).

There's also a bit about the toys there that could be, well... disturbing. But then again, the new Turtles toyline is out-and-out 1990-style toy whoring, but what I've managed to see of that show has been really, really good.

Strange casting, though. Two black men with fairly deep black voices for two white characters, including the especially high-pitched Joker. I don't mean to start another "Michael Clarke Duncan as 'The Kingpin'" discussion, but aren't those odd casting choices? I can kind of see Steve Harris as Clayface, but Kevin Michael Richardson as The Joker...?





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"Re(1):Update" , posted Thu 12 Feb 05:26post reply


quote:
Update from Comics Continuum

Alfred - Alastair Duncan (Mortanius from Legacy of Kain: Defiance, and also, I believe, one of the Watcher enforcers from Buffy Season 4/Angel Season 1, which means that he either IS British or just sounds like it)
Evan Bennett/Clayface - Steve Harris (Eugene Young from "The Practice")

Also, the names of Ming Na's unnamed detective is "Detective Ellen Yin" and Adam West's character is "Mayor Grange" (I never caught the mayor's name in the original, so I don't know if this has any significance).

There's also a bit about the toys there that could be, well... disturbing. But then again, the new Turtles toyline is out-and-out 1990-style toy whoring, but what I've managed to see of that show has been really, really good.

Strange casting, though. Two black men with fairly deep black voices for two white characters, including the especially high-pitched Joker. I don't mean to start another "Michael Clarke Duncan as 'The Kingpin'" discussion, but aren't those odd casting choices? I can kind of see Steve Harris as Clayface, but Kevin Michael Richardson as The Joker...?


I'm curious as to how Kevin Michael Richardson will sound as well since most everything I've heard from him has been played in a lower register and the Joker more often than not has a mid-range/high pitched shriek to his voice. But, really, it's not like the ethnicity of the actor matters for voice-over work; f'r instance, James Avery played the Shredder on a good number of episodes of the old Ninja Turtles cartoon.

Has there been any more character art released yet? That picture of the Joker toy made him look... surreal so I'm interested to see how the rest of the cast is going to be drawn.





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"Re(1):Update" , posted Thu 12 Feb 05:50post reply


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Strange casting, though. Two black men with fairly deep black voices for two white characters, including the especially high-pitched Joker. I don't mean to start another "Michael Clarke Duncan as 'The Kingpin'" discussion, but aren't those odd casting choices? I can kind of see Steve Harris as Clayface, but Kevin Michael Richardson as The Joker...?



Actually, I agree. I'm picturing Joker sounding like captain gantu. Disturbing...





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"Re(10):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Thu 12 Feb 10:36post reply


quote:
Look at it this way:

In X-Men Vs Street Fighter and I believe MSHvsSF as well Akuma knows the secret of Wolverine's past... does that mean the Udon SF comics are Marvel cannon? (or since Marvel owns Malibu, their SF comics are part of the X-universe AND offical SF cannon)

Although the TV JLA(minus Supes and Wonder Woman)/Joker/Tim Drake Robin/Batman/Terry Batman/Harley Quin/Posion Ivy/Bullock/Gordon have appeared on Static Shock, it's acknowledged it's not part of the true cannon. (the Dini/Timm series are their own world, 'the Batman' is going to be it's own world with no link to the old series, Static Shock is it's own as well although it crosses over with the others with no conflict... it's a kid show so it doesn't need to worry about continuality so long as it's fun... TT could either be it's own world or co-exist with another, as of now it's unknown and Robin is simply "Robin" and no one is willing to say otherwise)

Yeah, too much thought into this...



okay I totally get you now. green lantern guy gardener appeared on duck dodgers, but that isn't considered canon.

... or is it?? just kidding.





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"Re(10):OT: The Batman, new animated series" , posted Thu 12 Feb 12:16post reply


quote:

Although the TV JLA(minus Supes and Wonder Woman)/Joker/Tim Drake Robin/Batman/Terry Batman/Harley Quin/Posion Ivy/Bullock/Gordon have appeared on Static Shock, it's acknowledged it's not part of the true cannon.




Was that like, stated in an interview or official website or something?





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"Re(2):Re(10):OT: The Batman, new animated ser" , posted Thu 12 Feb 17:13post reply


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Was that like, stated in an interview or official website or something?



Interview, although I'm having a hard time finding were it was >_<






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"Re(3):Re(10):OT: The Batman, new animated ser" , posted Thu 12 Feb 23:18post reply


About the continuty...

It's a brand new show, with a different creative team and different actors.

So I'm pretty sure it's not part or related to the other animated shows.





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"TT setting and cast" , posted Fri 13 Feb 02:15post reply


quote:
batman TAS 2nd robin = tim drake
› batman cameo on static shock: static asks where robin is, bats replies he's now leading the titans.
› robin on teen titans
› episode that shows future (season 2, ep 1) has robin grow up to be nightwing
= nightwing = tim drake


I haven't read the whole thread yet but, it's not confirmed or denied Tim Drake is TT's Robin.

Consider:
-We don't know when TT is set (could very well be Grayson)
-We don't know that Grayson wouldn't give Tim the Nightwing costume at some point allowing Bruce to take in a new Robin and Grayson to grow into a new persona again.

Also worth considering:
The new Batman is done in a style very much like TT, and is already confirmed to be out of the BTAS/JL continity (and Static Shock is techincally not either one as well) so TT and 'the Batman' could very well be in the same world, a world in which TT's Robin makes total sense.



I'm personally looking at the fact that they have him as Nightwing in episode 2.1 and that he refers to Batman as his father figure in 1.13. Also take into account that most of the show seems modern, but they're teenagers (younger than the comics, at least). Kid Flash isn't there because The Flash in JL is Kid Flash grown up, yet they still have people like Aqualad there, just not permanently joining the group (like Aquaman in JL).

Also, aside from casual mention, they make no comment about JL or anything going, suggesting that they're not even aware of what's going on. Also, Robin's character in TT is more aggressive and "leader-worthy" as Dick than as Tim (Tim, to me, always seemed weaker and less Batman-ish than Dick).

Basically, it seems like they aren't trying to make any sort of canon as far as connection goes, otherwise they would have made it more obvious. TT is there just for fun.





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"Re(3):Re(10):OT: The Batman, new animated ser" , posted Fri 13 Feb 08:34:post reply


quote:
Was that like, stated in an interview or official website or something?


Interview, although I'm having a hard time finding were it was >_<




Ah, okay. Hmm, makes sense. I always figured Static Shock was connected but in the way that Static himself wouldn't guest star in other shows while characters from other shows would guest star in his (sorta like how KOF has all the AOF and FF characters but FF and AOF don't have much to do with KOF). Guess I was wrong about that (sorta like how evidence is now that KOF and AOF with FF apparently don't take place in the same continuity, after all).

I heard it was officially stated that they were keeping Robin's identity a secret on purpose, which means that I think it'd be kind of silly if it weren't in the same continuity as everything else because then there IMHO isn't much point to keeping it a secret since whichever Robin it is, it's a Robin made up completely for the show anyways and not any of the Robins from the other shows because the show isn't in the same continuity as the other shows. But then, most writers don't seem to follow my logic, these days *more glares at KOF*

Just as a quickie note, Robin becoming Night Wing was in an alternate future (one without Star Fire etc etc), which I think could be semi-significant if TT is in the same continuity as everything else because it's possible that in the REAL future he never became Nightwing leaving the Nightwing position open or whatever. I'd be surprised if the writers thought that far, though.

On a side note, for other shows, the writers in general are only loosely following continuity for the most part. For example, I heard that there is an obvious continuity between Justice League and Superman when looking at the last episode of Superman and the first episode of Justice League, but in that Superman time travel JL episode, they had Metallo and Weatherman back when the former was supposed to be dead and the latter stripped of his powers as far as I could recall. Both Metallo and Weatherman were just there to be jobber villains to set a bigger plot in motion though which shows that the writers just shrugged more than wanted to separate JL from Superman continuity entirely, which I guess could go with how I heard how they stated in an interview that they weren't STRICTLY following continuity of Batman and Superman completely.

...how confusing. I guess holding continuity across multiple series is really difficult, after all. Maybe this is why SNK and Capcom get so many continuity problems, too.





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