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| Mosquiton 1090th Post
 
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|  "Re(6):New FFXII Screens"
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The staff does not matter. With other games they could do as they will, but with FF they have to deliver what the majority of the fans want and that's a game that's similar to the rest of the series.
If you had said 'the staff doesn't have free reign', that would make sense. But of course a game won't turn out exactly the same if it were developed by entirely different teams.
I'm not saying XII will be entirely dissimilar to recent FFs, but the devs have expressed the desire to do things a bit differently and surprise fans. I'll give them a chance, at least.
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Menu combat was okay in days of long ago... who am I kidding? It always sucked. Then I've been playing SRPGs since the original Pool of Radiance so I expect more than a few options.
I've watched in horror as Jesus the cleric was disentegrated by "The Eye of the Beholder" circa 1990 (not quite as old as Pool, but suffice to say I've been playing SRPGs for a while too). Even if FFXII doesn't have SRPG-calibre combat depth (I don't expect it to) I might still enjoy it. Let's see what they manage to come up with.
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Phantom Brave has definitely spoiled me for other RPGs now. The battle system and the level of character customization is just insane. Even after 50 hours, it's hard to stop playing. -_-;;
Man, even with the risk of spoiling an entire genre for myesle I really want to play Phantom Brave, I'd love for it to see a North American release.
I haven't heard too much about the character customization, could you elaborate a little? I know this game something to do with possessing and picking up objects... I assume it's got a few of Disgaea's systems as well.
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| Cain Highwind 324th Post
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| "Re(6):New FFXII Screens" , posted Sat 7 Feb 12:30
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The staff does not matter. With other games they could do as they will, but with FF they have to deliver what the majority of the fans want and that's a game that's similar to the rest of the series.
There's still reason to hope that the series will change for the better. Both Matsuno and Sakaguchi said this at the 11/19 Unveiling. Yes they said this on FFX (except it was with Kotase and not Matsuno) and I ended up being disappointed.
I don't think it'll be way different than the "Mainstream" but I'm not expecting it to follow the same trends as FFX so closely like some of you guys are thinking.
I also expect the story to be along the lines of Matsuno's FFT (heck from what I hear Matsuno is cabable of some pretty deep stuff since a lot of people call FFT's story tame compared to his other work in the TO series). Matsuno has already said this game will avoid a lot of the other tiring factors from previous FFs like the typical "Love story" between the two main characters. He also mentioned that that the game's selling point would NOT be in the FMVs (yeah you heard that right folks) and that it'll be like no FF to date (again they said this for FFX, but Matsuno IS different and shows promise based on his past work). To blame FFXII's possible "failure" just because they made FFT-A is meaningless. I really think they only made it childish snce it's a Nintendo system and it's what the big N prefers. XII on the other hand could possible be the "real" FFT-A of sorts with no pressure to tone down the story.
Oh and Ahkiko Yoshida hates all the Nomura comparisons, he said it's just the way he used the colors (and CG perhaps).
Anyway, back to the screens, they're aren't really "new", they're just screen caps from the trailer.
Seriously, this could be one of the finest looking PS2 games to date, and the only way you notice this is by watching the trailers. At first glance, to the untrained eye, it looks like it runs on the same "engine" as FFX/X-2. But look closer at the facial animation and overall movement of the characters. It's far smoother and less choppy (one of the small things I disliked about FFX). And because of the new trick they (PD4) discovered by Decreasing the polygon count AND keep the same good textures, you notice it in some of the environments' details.
I found the trailers uploaded here:
http://www.ffxiionline.com/main.php?ffxii=videos.html
After watching the Art/Concept trailer, I can safely say I'm getting the artbook for the game when it comes out (and I like Yoshida's work, myself). And I share PD4's love for Balflear, he looks like a Badass.
I'm not trying to say you'll be guarenteed to like the game, I know some people will probably hate the new direction as much as love it. But I just wish people wouldn't dismiss it and assume it's going to be "the same ol' thing"
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| Ammadeau 708th Post
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| "Re(7):New FFXII Screens" , posted Sun 8 Feb 04:45
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I haven't heard too much about the character customization, could you elaborate a little? I know this game something to do with possessing and picking up objects... I assume it's got a few of Disgaea's systems as well.
Like Disgaea, there are different classes that you can make your party from, including all the monsters, and you can spend as many points to improve their base stats as you can afford (there's a cap to this depending on how much you leveled up the class though).
Characters can equip only one weapon that will add straight bonuses to their stats (+100 to ATK for instance) and a 'template' (I don't know what the game term is) that will add a +%, like +5% or +20%. The item also provides a number of special abilites and the template can do that too and can also improve secondary stats like stealing and even alter the various weapon ranks. The templates are earned and improved by doing bonus dungeons and these templates can also be added to weapons.
Where things get complicated is the combining system. Basically, you can combine any two objects and the first object will inheret all the abilites of the previous one plus stat improvements. You can also combine characters the same way, though they don't get stat improvments, they do get rank experience (the latter basically replaces the trans system from Disgaea). So essentially, any character or weapon can have any special ability in the game, so you can customize the characters as you like. The catch and the balance comes from the fact that all this combining costs mana, with the better abilities costing more. So to get the characters as you want them, you're going to have to spend a lot of time playing. But it's a lot of fun so I don't mind.
Might sound difficult, but it works well in practice.
I also just got Etena and Flonne and I'm definitely going to spend some time leveling them up. :)
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