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| Iggy 2724th Post
 
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|  "Re(1):SS0S Ooooh"
, posted Fri 6 Feb 00:23
Yumeji and Sankurô can't be not usable again. Or else they keep them for the domestic release, but it would realy suck. I want Yumeji to be nerfed A LOT. I mean, she's stronger than Gaô. I wonder if they will keep Poppy in it... (she was stronger than Galford alone...)
The game will be 100% copipe, so we won't have Nicotine, Wanfu, Shigeru or Chamcham, I think. (and anyway, if they add them, I hope they won't be copipe from ShinSS like Chamcham in Amakusa Kôrin. She was awfull, and worse of all she was Chamcham.) I'm praying for Mizuki's comeback, though... And maybe rasetsu Galford, they only have to change his face and a few details and voilà!
Enja (the Gôku lookalike) is a fire demon, Kazuki's father, and SS0's weakest character, but also one of the most interesting characters. I hope the Rokudo will be easier to perform in SS0S.
The Hibiki wanabe is Ukyô's master's daughter (son?). His/Her sex is still not sure (even though "she" can't be a man, with a voice like that), and she basically is rasetsu Ukyô (plus a lot of crappy morph moves) so she uses iai and looks like Hibiki (even her colors look like her, so...)
The guy with Charlotte is Michel, some friend of her with the most awesome voice of the game.
And even though I would love the "and..." to mean tons of characters (and I hope that new system won't ruin the game like the samurai combinations), the part I'm more looking forward is the balance adjustments. Enja, Galford, Basara up, give Gedô some chances again Mina, and nerfe seriously the 2 most powerfull moves in the game:
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．．．人はパンツをセンタク機にほうり込むのは、どんな時だ？
答えは一つ。
．．．それを脱いだ時、だぜ。
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| Iggy 2729th Post
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| "Re(9):SS0S Ooooh" , posted Fri 6 Feb 06:16:
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What a nightmare if it just meant a sprite rip of Shiki from SvC.
....(imagines what it could be)
AAAAAAAAAHHHH!!! GET OUT OF MY HEAD !!!!!
I really wonder why people think Zankurô will break the game... Of course, he has a counter and a screen-large projectile, but I think they will fix the problem of Jubei's shingan, and they're not dumb enough to make a character with exactly the same problem ; then, Zenitora also has a huge projectile, and it's completely ineffective... If I remember well, the biggest problem of Zankurô as a boss was the computer who reacted to everything lightening-fast... If they tone down his damage and add some lag to his moves, there's hope he'll be an interesting character. Same for Gaô... MASURAWO NO TATAKAI!
Oh, and if any of the bosses are too powerfull, it will stay an excellent game to play with friends at home, as it is now in spite of the nadeshiko and the flying grandpa.
Naruto : Chamcham was a long range character, like Amakusa and Mina, but Amakusa was classy, and Mina is the ultimate moe-chara. Chamcham was ugly, and even more in her bukitobashi.
Then, Mina is the extreme long range character, and even though I hate her, I think she fits in the general atmosphere of the game, character wise and move wise. In a way, even Tamtam and Charlotte, who feel so desperately out of place as characters, fit in because of their moves.
Lastly, they just add Amakusa as another keepaway character. So, as long as he doesn't turn out to be another Basara (seems like a long range chara, but his close range attacks and his throw are more effective than his long range attacks), she is definitely not needed.
And she's ugly.
If they add someone, I would prefer Wanfu and his pillar (appart from his charge move, which is like Rasetsumaru's, nobody really looks like him), Nicotine (mix of close and long range), or Assquake and Genan with their weird designs of the endings in Kôrin/Zero (AND NOT an Assquake copipe from SvC). Or even Shigeru, with this move which was a little like the rokudô, but who had the rest of his moves really different from Enja. And of course, Kuroko and Mizuki as the overpowered bosses.
Well, actually, I don't care for the characters that much. The game as it is now is perfect, character-wise. I'm much more frighten by that mysterious new system. It could break everything.
．．．人はパンツをセンタク機にほうり込むのは、どんな時だ？
答えは一つ。
．．．それを脱いだ時、だぜ。
[this message was edited by Iggy on Fri 6 Feb 06:44] |
| Iggy 2737th Post
Platinum Carpet V.I.P- Board Master
| "Re(4):Re(10):SS0S Ooooh" , posted Fri 6 Feb 12:30
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But I can't see a weak mizuki, it won't be her without those cheap moves ( PIGS!!!).
PIGS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Imagine if they draw a pig version of anyone, like all the different transformations in Vampire (the girls one, the weak, the basket ball, the meat on the table, etc etc). IMAGINE A MINA PIG!
I'm a cute little piggie, oink oink oink!
A Gedô pig! A Suijasama pig, with all the hair!
If they do it, I think I'll faint in happiness.
．．．人はパンツをセンタク機にほうり込むのは、どんな時だ？
答えは一つ。
．．．それを脱いだ時、だぜ。
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| Krzyzewski Man 608th Post
Red Carpet Regular Member
| "Re(2):No." , posted Sat 7 Feb 21:51
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Here's some ideas,
allow Gedo to combo into command throw.
He... can. Definitely off of his A or 2A, maybe from his close AB. Yes, it's tricky. Practice.
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allow Gedos spit to stay on the ground longer.
It's an infinite, remember. If you knew some of the setups, longer-lasting spit might become too abusive. Balance in all things, people.
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make Gedos zombie hand move track better and happen faster.
You mean the headbutt, or the unblockable stun move?
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make his command throw easier. (I get it everytime generally but I know most people find it gawdawful hard if not impossible)
True. If you did that, though, I have the feeling you may have to tone down its properties. At this point it's comparatively as powerful as the original SPD, in my opinion.
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give him an anti air version of his command throw. (this would rule, it reminds me of alex 3rd strikes knee anyway mixed with a little throat chokage.
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Better yet, how about this - an anti-air with many of the properties of Venom Strike. It'd improve his air defense some, and also give him a quick method of transport. That should give him much more of a chance against an endless bubble-dropping Sogetsu, and some of the other zoning characters as well. The move shouldn't be so useful up-close on the ground, though.
Bunge bunge.
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| UnCauzi
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Occasional Customer
| "Re(3):No." , posted Sat 7 Feb 22:36
He can't combo his A or 2A if the opponent uses the D button, if he holds back hoping to block something whether A hits or misses it will "seemingly" combo, however it doesn't. I personally think I play one of the best Kuses in the U.S. (There aren't many serious Samsho V players much less Kuse players anyhow so I might not be too far off, he has a samsho website actually www.fierceslash.com check out the old forums there, that's where it's at) He's great at A, 2A hit or block to command throw. Almost unnatural even, but down, back or even forward + D randomly on anticipation, will dodge it everytime. If they are holding back it will seemingly combo, but it doesn't.
His spit is not an infinite despite previous reports, those who got spit on didn't use the quick get up, and generally 3-4 reps is the maximum. Using the spit is nothing more than something to discourage wakeups,and some jumpins otherwise it's all but useless. Pressuring a downed opponent with it is almost impossible because the screen will push you all the way across the screen as the oppponent rises while rolling. Longer spit would be far from game breaking. The character has no real pressure games as it is. It would actually cause people to do what Kuse doesn't want his opponent to do, stay away from him. However in close it could keep them there longer and setup command grabs.
Zombies/arms from the ground, qcf+A/B/A+B is what I'm talking about, it's bad enough the Kuse can be hit by ANYTHING being swung from anywhere on the screen just about while performing this move the least it could do is execute a little faster.
As far as the branding iron being comparable to the original spd, the spd had no recovery frames and was much easier to do imo. Making Kuses command throw easier is mandatory to make him a viable character choice to the average gamer. And having moves easier for regular people in general is the key to a characters/games success. (See the poster boy Yoshitora) Kuse has so many things as a big guy that works against him:
1. He walks slower than any big guy in fighting game history.
2. Quick jumps butcher most throw attempts in Samsho.
3. Lay down butchers throw attempts.
4. He falls everytime he uses anything but A while jumping in the air.
The last thing that will break him is an easier command throw.
Now to your suggestions, you're talking MvC2 when you say venom strike? You'd have to be more specific. Bubble dropping Sogetsus are a problem; however water spouting Sogetsus win with practically no risk from full screen. But if they let the ground zombie demon things come out faster and stay onscreen/execute whether Gedo was hit or not this would at least give the Sogetsu something to think about. Since if he spammed spouts I could counter with demon stun to an A+B.
That's my peace, none of this will probably come to fruition but I like Gedo and just don't want to see him phased out with too many hard matchups. Unlike most people that play SNK games I play in tournies around where I live a lot and I like my characters to remain competitive.
Guess there's always Zankuro ;)
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| Iggy 2756th Post
Platinum Carpet V.I.P- Board Master
| "Re(4):Re(10):SS0S Ooooh" , posted Mon 9 Feb 15:20
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What pipe are you smokin'? That wasn't weak. Weak was in SS3. Now, THAT was weak.
The low kick from hell doesn't qualifies him as weak in SS3... But if you take that away from him, yes, he was weak.
Well, if Amakusa Korin's Amakusa wasn't weak for you, let's sum thing up by calling all that the Vega syndrome. You know, when Vega became playable in SF2' and he was the worst character of the game, his double knee press was a joke, he could be countered on all of his moves...
The most dedicaced suporters of Vega-sama still stick to their official explanation, that actually it was not Vega sama in SF2', it was Crossdresser-Cammy in disguise, and that's why this version sucks (and Crossdresser-Cammy comes back in SvC. Let's hope the real Vega-sama will be in SvC2)
．．．人はパンツをセンタク機にほうり込むのは、どんな時だ？
答えは一つ。
．．．それを脱いだ時、だぜ。
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