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Makondo99 237th Post
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"End of raw files?"
, posted Tue 3 Feb 16:51:
I was reading a news site when I came across this article (in Spanish). I'm too lazy busy to translate it, but it roughly says that starting this April, the broadcasting of Japanese HDTV will be encoded to stop piracy. This would mean that the fan-subbing scene won't be able to easily obtain a copy of the anime series being broadcasted in Japan (or at least it will become more difficult or the quality will decrease)
The article also mentions that there's an ongoing project that's trying to crack the encoding of the HDTV. There's a link to a Japanese webpage where you can download a client and install it in your computer. They say that it uses the power of your idle CPU to help cracking the code. So far, they've managed to decode about 15% of the code.
My question is that if any of you have heard of this piece of news, or if it's just a hoax. If it's true, then it would be quite sad for all the anime-torrent-junkies who enjoy watching the latest anime series. Opinions?
EDIT: Grammar!
Let's rock baby
[this message was edited by Makondo99 on Tue 3 Feb 18:06]
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Dragon-warrior
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"Re(1):End of raw files?"
, posted Tue 3 Feb 18:38
please god no! i don't want to wait for the licen anime! and the awful dub! oo god noooooooo!
Porcellino
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Gold Customer
"Re(2):End of raw files?"
, posted Tue 3 Feb 19:27
That article seems to be serious..what I don't get is why are they trying to decrypt the image in real-time...I mean, it's IMPOSSIBLE to decrypt every frame unless they have some stolen computers from the NASA. Nowadays not even nagravision can be decoded/decrypted at 100% accurate.
Tobanaibutaha...tadanobutada....
Juan
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"Re(1):End of raw files?"
, posted Tue 3 Feb 19:38
This will happen, but not soon, since the mayority of people are still using regular tvs and HDTVs havent quite dropped prices yet.
Same thing is going to happen in the US in 5 years or less, by then the HDTVs will be very affordable, or so they say.
quote: it roughly says that starting this April, the broadcasting of Japanese HDTV will be encoded to stop piracy. This would mean that the fan-subbing scene won't be able to easily obtain a copy of the anime series being broadcasted in Japan (or at least it will become more difficult or the quality will decrease)
Freeter
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"Re(1):End of raw files?"
, posted Tue 3 Feb 20:24
quote: the quality will decrease
Bah, better than nothing. I have to run these files on lowest quality because of my crappy PC anyway.
DarkZero
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"Re(2):End of raw files?"
, posted Tue 3 Feb 20:44
This seems like sort of a non-issue to me. In the short term (after this is adopted), fansub groups can just use non-HDTV raws. In the long term, a lot of the anime that is broadcast on Japanese television ends up on regular old poorly encrypted DVDs that are easily ripped, and few encryption or flagging schemes last more than a few years without being cracked.
This isn't the end of raws. And even if there's a degradation in quality, we'll still be in a much better situation than all non-Japanese anime fans were a few years ago, trading low quality VHS tapes back and forth and futilely hoping that someone, some day decides to fansub their favorite series.
whitesword
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"Re(3):End of raw files?"
, posted Tue 3 Feb 22:03
quote: In the long term, a lot of the anime that is broadcast on Japanese television ends up on regular old poorly encrypted DVDs that are easily ripped, and few encryption or flagging schemes last more than a few years without being cracked.
That is, until the BLUE LASER OF DOOM DVDs come along.
New standard = new encryption
Satoshi_Miwa
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"Re(3):End of raw files?"
, posted Tue 3 Feb 22:40
quote: This isn't the end of raws. And even if there's a degradation in quality, we'll still be in a much better situation than all non-Japanese anime fans were a few years ago, trading low quality VHS tapes back and forth and futilely hoping that someone, some day decides to fansub their favorite series.
Or worse, Artic Animation will finish it off...I still have scars from watching their KOR and Patlabor TV subs. Great fun with Amiga fonts and end credits that told people to die! Really!
I suspect this is just a lot of buzz words over a scheme that sounds like Macrovision, and I suspect most capture cards out there ignore that. Either it'll be too weak to stop piracy or it'll be too strong and annoy people that tape TV to watch it....
Separated at Birth?
Satoshi_Miwa
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"Re(4):End of raw files?"
, posted Tue 3 Feb 22:42
quote: That is, until the BLUE LASER OF DOOM DVDs come along.
New standard = new encryption
I doubt all of Hollywoods might can force Blue Ray down the consumer markets throat right now. They already spent money to upgrade to DVD, and given the US's indifference to most new media formats (See LD, mini Disc, Magnetic Tapes, etc) and the fact it's just a bigger DVD...I see the format not catching on for home video.
Computer use, however, seems most promising...
Separated at Birth?
ninjabastard
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"Re(5):End of raw files?"
, posted Tue 3 Feb 23:30
quote: That is, until the BLUE LASER OF DOOM DVDs come along.
New standard = new encryption
I doubt all of Hollywoods might can force Blue Ray down the consumer markets throat right now. They already spent money to upgrade to DVD, and given the US's indifference to most new media formats (See LD, mini Disc, Magnetic Tapes, etc) and the fact it's just a bigger DVD...I see the format not catching on for home video.
Computer use, however, seems most promising...
For something to replace an exsisting product in america. It better be soo much more improved that you look moron trying to justify why you still have the older standard.
exodus
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"juneh speaks"
, posted Wed 4 Feb 00:47
quote: the mayority
that's some kickass spenglish...it takes place all in one word!
I approve.
Toxico
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"AMAI!!!!"
, posted Wed 4 Feb 06:52
quote: the mayority
that's some kickass spenglish...it takes place all in one word!
I approve.
HEY!!!!!!! I use that word oftenly ¬_¬... I suppose that I'll replace it with something else from now on.
About the news, I'm sooooooo in the cave days that I don't even know what you are talking off; I can hardly recognize a DVD when I see it ;)
that's some kickass spenglish...it takes place all in one word!
I approve.
[this message was edited by Juan on Wed 4 Feb 14:18]
Juke Joint Jezebel
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"i don't eat anything with a panita"
, posted Wed 4 Feb 14:20:
quote:New standard = new encryption
agred
when you build a better mousetrap .. things start gettin freaky
[this message was edited by Juke Joint Jezebel on Wed 4 Feb 14:27]
Jazzie D
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"My take on this"
, posted Wed 4 Feb 15:34
Sorry if this post doesn't make sense. I'm in a hurry. I'll complete this post later.
I still collect tapes. I'm proud to have my "Mizuiro Jidai" and "Full Moon o Sagashite" tapes. Ha ha ha!
Aside from my random insanity, yeah, I don't think that this will be the end of fan subbing. Yes, I get torrent files majority of the time, but then again, I can always buy tapes. Either way, I still get a chance to see series North America doesn't take note of.
Tomo - Kimura-sensei why did you become a teacher? Kimura-sensei - CUZ I LIKE HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS AND STUFF!
"End of raw files?" 
baby
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