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| DarkZero 577th Post
 
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|  "Rockman EXE 4 Strangeness..."
, posted Mon 19 Jan 19:06
From Magic Box:
Here are the Top 20 console titles in Japan for the week of Jan 12 - 18
Rockman EXE 4 Tournament Red Sun / Blue Moon (GBA, Capcom) - 48,244 / 727,085 units
Do any of our Japanese posters know why this series is suddenly so popular? I know the game received a better Famitsu score than any of its predecessors, but that still doesn't explain why a game from a series that has suffered a sharp decline in quality with each new release is suddenly at the top of the charts. It's not only beaten GT4: Prologue, Mario Kart: Double Dash, AEUG vs. Titan, Mario & Luigi RPG, and Pokemon Colosseum in sales for the week, but it's also soundly beaten most of them in total sales.
Is the game really that good, or is its tie-in anime just much, much better than its unbelievably crappy predecessor?
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| EternalNewbie
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| "Re(4):Rockman EXE 4 Strangeness..." , posted Mon 19 Jan 22:21
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So, what your saying is that I should start playing this series from the first game?
I think I'll try it.
Well, if you want to play the best one, either wait for EXE 4 to be released or get EXE 3, since the games get better further down the series ^_^;; (note: This does not include the EXE Battle Chip challenge game which I found to be not that fun, but they were trying for a different game system completely there and it really isn't part of the series. Kinda like Rockman Soccer...) But, if you want to see how the series has evolved, then you should start from the first one. The first one was fun, but slightly easy since after most battles (except one 'dungeon'), you are fully healed after each battle.
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| EternalNewbie
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| "Re(4):Rockman EXE 4 Strangeness..." , posted Tue 20 Jan 10:57
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I'd say if someone wants to start playing the series they should start with the second or wait for the fourth.
Yeah, that sounds about right. The battle system in the first one was ok, but they improved it by a good amount in the second game. As for the differences between Red Sun and Blue Moon, there are quite a few number of differences. When the 3rd EXE game tried splitting off into two colors (White and Black in Japan, White and Blue in US), the only major differences were what battle chips you could collect, which even then weren't that major of a difference. However, they changed how the game progresses in the 4th game. Basically, the game consists of tournaments, and the oppoenents you get in touranments is random (each having their own little story segment with them); so even if you have two versions of Blue Moon, they aren't neccessarily going to have the all the same story parts. Also, certain opponents in these tournaments are found in one version over another. Red Sun has Wind Man, Fire Man, Roll, Search Man, Thunder Man, and Guts Man as unique opponents. Blue Moon on the other hand has Junk Man, Wood Man, Aqua Man, Proto Man (Blues), Metal Man, and Number Man as unique opponents. Which then brings up a new factor in the game. From these unique opponents, you get these things called styles (which can be activated with certain generic battle chips that kinda relate to the style. Such as, if you have Aqua Man's style and want to activate it, you temporarly sacrifice one water chip, any water chip during battle), which makes Megaman turn into a sort of hyrbrid mix between him and whoever's style just activated (yes, Roll style does look weird). Not all the bosses are unique, there are a few generic bosses that are in both tournaments the games (though you cannot obtain their styles), along with certain story parts that carry over (usually parts inbetween each tournament and at the start and end of the game). To top it off, EXE 4 has a new game + mode where you can replay through the game keeping all the chips and styles you have obtained and have a chance to do some story segments you didn't recieve the first time through, since you will only recieve 3 out of the 6 styles from whichever version you got on your first time through. *whew* I believe that covers all of it ^_^;;
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| Luisinan 700th Post
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| "Re(5):Rockman EXE 4 Strangeness..." , posted Tue 20 Jan 11:58
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I'd say if someone wants to start playing the series they should start with the second or wait for the fourth.
Yeah, that sounds about right. The battle system in the first one was ok, but they improved it by a good amount in the second game. As for the differences between Red Sun and Blue Moon, there are quite a few number of differences. When the 3rd EXE game tried splitting off into two colors (White and Black in Japan, White and Blue in US), the only major differences were what battle chips you could collect, which even then weren't that major of a difference. However, they changed how the game progresses in the 4th game. Basically, the game consists of tournaments, and the oppoenents you get in touranments is random (each having their own little story segment with them); so even if you have two versions of Blue Moon, they aren't neccessarily going to have the all the same story parts. Also, certain opponents in these tournaments are found in one version over another. Red Sun has Wind Man, Fire Man, Roll, Search Man, Thunder Man, and Guts Man as unique opponents. Blue Moon on the other hand has Junk Man, Wood Man, Aqua Man, Proto Man (Blues), Metal Man, and Number Man as unique opponents. Which then brings up a new factor in the game. From these unique opponents, you get these things called styles (which can be activated with certain generic battle chips that kinda relate to the style. Such as, if you have Aqua Man's style and want to activate it, you temporarly sacrifice one water chip, any water chip during battle), which makes Megaman turn into a sort of hyrbrid mix between him and whoever's style just activated (yes, Roll style does look weird). Not all the bosses are unique, there are a few generic bosses that are in both tournaments the games (though you cannot obtain their styles), along with certain story parts that carry over (usually parts inbetween each tournament and at the start and end of the game). To top it off, EXE 4 has a new game + mode where you can replay through the game keeping all the chips and styles you have obtained and have a chance to do some story segments you didn't recieve the first time through, since you will only recieve 3 out of the 6 styles from whichever version you got on your first time through. *whew* I believe that covers all of it ^_^;;
Man. See, that's exactly what i don't like. This whole, "must buy 2 versions of the same game to get full story or full enjoyment" out of game gimmick. I HATE IT! Final Fantasy Tactics sort of did this too, with the gimmick that playing together with a friend would give you access (or easier access) to some rare items. I hate being forced to buy extra games/accessories in order to get the most experience out of a game.
At least now I know to buy Blue moon so I can fight Protoman. Who cares about Roll. And maybe I'll just buy EXE 3 if the first two parts weren't really that important. A storyline is very important to me too.
Bored? "160"
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| DarkZero 579th Post
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| "Re(6):Rockman EXE 4 Strangeness..." , posted Tue 20 Jan 21:32
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Man. See, that's exactly what i don't like. This whole, "must buy 2 versions of the same game to get full story or full enjoyment" out of game gimmick. I HATE IT! Final Fantasy Tactics sort of did this too, with the gimmick that playing together with a friend would give you access (or easier access) to some rare items. I hate being forced to buy extra games/accessories in order to get the most experience out of a game.
At least now I know to buy Blue moon so I can fight Protoman. Who cares about Roll. And maybe I'll just buy EXE 3 if the first two parts weren't really that important. A storyline is very important to me too.
Once you've actually played EXE 2 or EXE 3, you'll realize just how negligible those version differences in EXE 4 are. For the most part, a difference in battle chips is pointless. Having more/different battle chips from another version doesn't really do anything for you in the single player version. It just helps you out in the multiplayer battles, and if you're using multiplayer battles, then chances are that you're playing against someone that has a different version and can trade those chips to you.
The difference in styles doesn't matter, either. In Megaman EXE 3, there was a unique style in each of the two versions that wasn't in the other versions. But that didn't matter, because even though there were five or six styles (with four different variations of each) in my Blue version, I only used three anyway. So it doesn't matter if there are tons of styles when you add both versions together, because you're never going to use them all anyway. And if you find a style that you like early on, you might end up primarily using only one or two for the entire game. I think I used the ElecTeam style for 90% of EXE 2, even though there were three other styles and even three other variations of the style that I was using.
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At least now I know to buy Blue moon so I can fight Protoman. Who cares about Roll. And maybe I'll just buy EXE 3 if the first two parts weren't really that important. A storyline is very important to me too.
The EXE series using a continuing storyline throughout all three games, but the stories are written so that they're only loosely connected. Sort of like Suikoden. If you don't play the games all the way through from the first one, you'll miss some things in the later versions, but not much. 3 in particular has a lot of references to the first two games toward the end.
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| whitesword 1476th Post
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| "Re(7):Rockman EXE 4 Strangeness..." , posted Tue 20 Jan 23:26
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The difference in styles doesn't matter, either. In Megaman EXE 3, there was a unique style in each of the two versions that wasn't in the other versions. But that didn't matter, because even though there were five or six styles (with four different variations of each) in my Blue version, I only used three anyway. So it doesn't matter if there are tons of styles when you add both versions together, because you're never going to use them all anyway. And if you find a style that you like early on, you might end up primarily using only one or two for the entire game. I think I used the ElecTeam style for 90% of EXE 2, even though there were three other styles and even three other variations of the style that I was using.
The difference in styles does matter in EXE3 since the styles in and of themselves don't gives you any incredible abilities, but they are the source for the more useful programs. With mod codes, you can build a style that is unique by simply combining your style's programs with a program from another style.
The unique styles are also two of the coolest, Ground Style can be monsterous with the right chips and Fire Style's flamethrower, but a lot of people would prefer Shadow Style just so they can become ninjas with the anti-damage program.
Speaking of programs, are they still in EXE4?
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