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iggy

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"Rumors, SH4, BH4" , posted Mon 5 Jan 02:35

It's not because Siren is the best survival Horror ever that the minor series have to stop. Some rumors have it that Bio Hasard 4 won't be GC-exclusive anymore.
According to the rumors also, Silent Hill 4 would be called "Silent Hill : The Room" (?). The new hero would be called "Henry Townsend".
(source of the rumors : Play on Nine)

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Alucard
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"Re(1):Rumors, SH4, BH4" , posted Mon 5 Jan 05:47

quote:
It's not because Siren is the best survival Horror ever that the minor series have to stop. Some rumors have it that Bio Hasard 4 won't be GC-exclusive anymore.
According to the rumors also, Silent Hill 4 would be called "Silent Hill : The Room" (?). The new hero would be called "Henry Townsend".
(source of the rumors : Play on Nine)

I've found some time ago early rumours about SH4, from an interview of Heather voice actress, who was contacted by Konami to have some new recording sessions.

Do you really think that siren is better than SH ?
I just know it from previews, so if you have played it, tell me a bit about, plz ^_^

I was a strong fan of Bio Hazard, but SH strongly rocks !

Radish

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"Re(1):Rumors, SH4, BH4" , posted Mon 5 Jan 06:25

quote:
It's not because Siren is the best survival Horror ever that the minor series have to stop. Some rumors have it that Bio Hasard 4 won't be GC-exclusive anymore.
According to the rumors also, Silent Hill 4 would be called "Silent Hill : The Room" (?). The new hero would be called "Henry Townsend".
(source of the rumors : Play on Nine)

I wonder how many BH games have to flop on the Gamecube before Capcom says "Maybe Gamecube fans aren't the best demographic for BioHazard games." I mean I think if they asked ANYONE other than Nintendo ("Yes, yes MILLIONS of people bought the Gamecube for Eternal Darkness! You'll make billions with us!!!"), they would have told them it was a stupid move.

Hungrywolf

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"Re(2):Rumors, SH4, BH4" , posted Mon 5 Jan 07:18

quote:
It's not because Siren is the best survival Horror ever that the minor series have to stop. Some rumors have it that Bio Hasard 4 won't be GC-exclusive anymore.
According to the rumors also, Silent Hill 4 would be called "Silent Hill : The Room" (?). The new hero would be called "Henry Townsend".
(source of the rumors : Play on Nine)

I wonder how many BH games have to flop on the Gamecube before Capcom says "Maybe Gamecube fans aren't the best demographic for BioHazard games." I mean I think if they asked ANYONE other than Nintendo ("Yes, yes MILLIONS of people bought the Gamecube for Eternal Darkness! You'll make billions with us!!!"), they would have told them it was a stupid move.

How badly did they flop on GCN? Anyway, I got them for GCN. Except 2 and 3, which were not at the price I originally expected them to be. And they were just PS ports.

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trufenix
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"Re(3):Rumors, SH4, BH4" , posted Mon 5 Jan 08:22

Well, I don't really think it's safe to say "flop". More like, didn't make the splash that they probably wanted, or would've gotten if they'd been released on PS2.

The "new" resident evils (REmake, and Zero) sold very well as I understand it, and having played them I can say they are easily among the best games on GC.

The "old" resident evils however, were a stupid move through and through, given they've already been released on 3 existing platforms, had no upgrades / new content added to them at all, and were released at full price point. Capcom had to know those were going no where.

I wish they would give us something new about RE4 though, they are really nearing the end of the rope with me.

-F.

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DarkZero

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"Re(3):Rumors, SH4, BH4" , posted Mon 5 Jan 08:56

quote:
I wonder how many BH games have to flop on the Gamecube before Capcom says "Maybe Gamecube fans aren't the best demographic for BioHazard games." I mean I think if they asked ANYONE other than Nintendo ("Yes, yes MILLIONS of people bought the Gamecube for Eternal Darkness! You'll make billions with us!!!"), they would have told them it was a stupid move.

How badly did they flop on GCN? Anyway, I got them for GCN. Except 2 and 3, which were not at the price I originally expected them to be. And they were just PS ports.

I can't find any data for the sales of the Resident Evil remake on the GameCube, but here's what little data I do have:
Biohazard 0 for GameCube - 327,198 sold in Japan (ranking 32nd for the year)

Biohazard 3 for PS1 - 1,339,022 sold in Japan (ranking 3rd for the year)

So yeah, 32nd for the year is by no means a "flop", as it puts the Biohazard series in the same league as some other profitable franchises, such as Suikoden and Super Robot Taisen, and well above profitable games/series such as Shinobi and Shin Megami Tensei, but by comparison? It was a flop. It's sort of like The Matrix Revolutions. Yeah, it did REALLY well at the box office and made an enormous profit, but when compared to its predecessors, it didn't do so well. There was a large drop in sales between Reloaded and Revolutions, so the box office sales for Revolutions were simultaneously excellent and disappointing.

Ah, here we go. I just found it. Resident Evil is listed on the 2002 chart, not the 2002 fiscal year chart. Its sale number was 267,470, which puts in 49th place. Just above Starfox Adventures at 259,067. I think you can draw your own conclusion there.

Radish

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"Re(4):Rumors, SH4, BH4" , posted Mon 5 Jan 09:28:

Yeah I'm not saying that they only sold 13 copies to their wife's nephews. But with a lucrative franchise, it certainly didn't do nearly as well as expected (or should have since I hear that the Remake is excellent).

[this message was edited by Radish on Mon 5 Jan 09:46]

Syo
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"Re(5):Rumors, SH4, BH4" , posted Mon 5 Jan 18:03

Also, isn't the PS2 Biohazard Outbreak selling suspiciously well in Japan right now for an online game? I was told that it outsold all Resis released on GC to date? Anyone shed some light on that?...

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DarkZero

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"Re(6):Rumors, SH4, BH4" , posted Mon 5 Jan 18:16

quote:
Also, isn't the PS2 Biohazard Outbreak selling suspiciously well in Japan right now for an online game? I was told that it outsold all Resis released on GC to date? Anyone shed some light on that?...

Biohazard Outbreak should surpass Biohazard 0 the next time the Japanese Console Charts are updated at Magic Box.

Biohazard Outbreak - 322,195 (currently 16th for the weak of 12/22-12/28 in Japan, with another 42,989 sold this week)

Not exactly a stunning number for a PS2 game from an established franchise, but it's pretty good for an online game and it should easily surpass Biohazard 0's sales (327,198).

Altimus
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"Re(7):Rumors, SH4, BH4" , posted Mon 5 Jan 18:34

I hear that James Sunderland will be in Silent Hill: The Room. I hope that doesn't mean they expand the Silent Hill 2 story..

Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
Along with that rumor, I heard that "The Room" refers to the room Mary and James stayed in at the Lakeside Hotel. (312, I think)

End of Spoiler

Then again, that wouldn't make any sense if there is a new protagonist..

Burning Ranger

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"Re(8):Rumors, SH4, BH4" , posted Mon 5 Jan 19:05

All I know is that there WILL be a Silent Hill 4 and a Resident Evil 4. And that's good enough for me, I think...

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Ammadeau

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"Re(4):Rumors, SH4, BH4" , posted Mon 5 Jan 20:32

quote:
The "new" resident evils (REmake, and Zero) sold very well as I understand it, and having played them I can say they are easily among the best games on GC.

You damn with faint praise. :p

I've yet to play a survival horror game I've really liked and I really like horror. The closest was Code Veronica, but it was much more action than horror to me.

CrazyMike

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"Re(5):Rumors, SH4, BH4" , posted Mon 5 Jan 23:28

Personally I just don't get excited about Biohazard/Resident Evil anymore. 3 was just too "eeh" for me, and Code Veronica entertained me for a rental, but thats it. The gamecube remake of the 1st one, well it looked cool on the 'net to see the redone graphics, but other than that I would see no reason to rebuy virtually same game packaged with new graphics.

I guess its gotten the Final Fantasy syndrome where there is so many coming out every year, you lose track and interest, especially when neither series radically changes the gameplay around.

thebigword
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"Re(6):Rumors, SH4, BH4" , posted Mon 5 Jan 23:35

quote:
Personally I just don't get excited about Biohazard/Resident Evil anymore. 3 was just too "eeh" for me, and Code Veronica entertained me for a rental, but thats it. The gamecube remake of the 1st one, well it looked cool on the 'net to see the redone graphics, but other than that I would see no reason to rebuy virtually same game packaged with new graphics.

I thought the same thing until I played it, and it felt like an entirely new game. It was really good.

trufenix
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"Re(7):Rumors, SH4, BH4" , posted Tue 6 Jan 06:28

well, the way I see it, 3 didn't incorporate a lot of what made RE1&2 great, which is why it wasn't the splash it should've been, and likewise, Code Veronica, while much better than 3 is really just a rehash of 1&2 from a gameplay perspective.

Zero and REmake are much better than the both of them though, but I still think Resident Evil 2 is the best the series will ever get story and game content wise. I really thought capcom was headed somewhere good with Resident Evil 4, even if it was just territory already traveled by the ever improving Silent Hill series. But since it doesn't look like RE4 is happening anytime soon, blah.

I'm all for RE:O tho, that sounds like good fun.

-F.

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