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| KTallguy 320th Post
 
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|  "Has anyone played Samurai Shodown Zero?"
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I've been playing it a bit, its actually really fun. It's just a shame that they didn't translate the story into english.
The backgrounds are hit or miss, some of them are really nice, some are ugly looking. The new guy with the 7 swords is pretty bad ass. The sprites have a little less animation, and some are completely redrawn... I think Rimuraru looks really bad now, her sprite is just ugly....
However, the gameplay is really fun, and pretty deep. There's a lot of strategy involved with the sword meter and you can do a lot of damage with well placed strikes, rather than long combos. It's a different type of game then most.
http://www10.org1.com/~challeng/ssz_cs_battle_end.htm
This site has some 'tournament' vids up. The action is fast and furious... pretty cool. The 6th video is interesting, because when the 7 sword guy (long name, always forget), starts doing an infinate, the game stops him and kills him. It's strange? Some kind of guard against cheap tactics in the game itself?
Oh, and Merry X-mas =)
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| Iggy 2344th Post
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| "Re(1):Has anyone played Samurai Shodown Zero?" , posted Fri 26 Dec 01:22:
It's the best game SNK ever created. Period. Really. It's so good I even engaged myself in a peace process with Nakoruru, my arch-ennemy, to play with her. Mina is really the only flaw of the game. Suija sama and especially Unpi rock my world.
Oh, and in the series "Everytime I think this character can't become better, he actually does", look at Kusaregdô's weapon throwing... I need to train to do his throws and the unko nage.
My god, I can't wait for the domestic release. I really, really hope the rumors are false and I won't have to wait until June to play it in good conditions.
Edit : oh, and if the vids are those from Challenger I linked to a while back, I think you're talking of a fight between Banchô (Yoshitora) and an employee of the arcades (Gaira) where they do 2 rounds without weapons, then at the 3rd round, Yoshitora does his infinite then his jiketsu? It's a waste of bandwith. Die, Banchô! Die!
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| Luisinan 648th Post
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| "Re(1):Has anyone played Samurai Shodown Zero?" , posted Fri 26 Dec 06:15
Kusaregedo has got to be the single most disgusting character design in a fighting game. He's still a good design, but disgusting. I didn't think he could lose his weapon in battle, but he can. Ewwwwwww.
Mina is too damn annoying. I love/hate her. A little too 'kawai', but still, a cool design. Anyone know the story behind her telly-tubby pal?
Yoshitora? Wasn't sure about him. Seemed kind of a boring design at first, but his costume is cool, in a simple way. And the fighting stance is cool too. But I'm wondering what makes him different from the other swordsmen in the game (other then the multiple blades).
Is Suiga a new character? Hrm. He's all right. Funny walking animation.
Did Gaira get a new sprite/re-design? His costume looks different.
Can someone explain what Gaira did in the Suiga vs Gaira match from ssz_cs_zen_2.avi. At the end of the second round, Gaira has like 70% health, he's in rage mode, and then, I think he tries to super throw Suiga, but misses. And then all of his health is gone and he dies. WTF?
Does the game still have suicides? I think a Kusaregedo player killed himself during the second round in a fight with Mina. He just couldn't get in and do damage. Mina got two perfects. Maybe the player sucked, but damn...
Well, just by the looks of it, I hope to get it when it's released. I'm really gonna have to buy a PS2. SNKP is being too good with the home ports. Now they need to release compilations like Nintendo and Capcom.
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| chewbakka-x-pow
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| "Re(1):Has anyone played Samurai Shodown Zero?" , posted Fri 26 Dec 06:26
i played it and i can say that it's the better samurai since Shin Samurai Spirit/samurai showdown2.
Yoshitora really kick ass with his Joe+Amano style, he have 6 special attacks (multi hit, anti-air, reverse attack, air attack, sword in the ass attack), and after doing all the 6 attack in the two rounds, he can do a 7th one (qcb,f+BC: a large arc ala Kasumi wave).
Muna is a long range character, really bad ass with here bow attacks. and chample is really loveable.
Yunfei is great, with his flying attacks.
Kusagedo as BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG!!!
Suija dances in his normal stance
enja is powerful
and rasetsumaru is more monsterous than Shin gouki+mukai+... all the monsterous guys you know
a very awesome game
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| Fuchikoma 810th Post
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| "Re(2):Has anyone played Samurai Shodown Zero?" , posted Fri 26 Dec 10:13
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and after doing all the 6 attack in the two rounds, he can do a 7th one (qcb,f+BC: a large arc ala Kasumi wave).
I think I know the move you mean... and you that's just Yoshitora's standard strong slash, all you have to do is press A and B together. Although this slash is way too over powered... it has unbelievable range and priority. I love SS5, if it had the stories in English mode it would be my favorite of the series.
Mina isn't really that difficult with all the new defensive moves they've added. You can use the d,f D roll to get in close and she has no fight in close range. They also added a deflection move, qcb, f, D which I'm pretty sure I've seen the computer deflect projects back with. If you're disarmed that same move lets you catch the blade with your hands. I really like Mina though, interesting set of moves... but has anyone figured out the purpose of Champuru? You can order his to go to sleep or hide in Mina's skirt... but the moves don't seem to do anything.
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| OYashiroForever 661th Post
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| "Re(7):Has anyone played Samurai Shodown Zero?" , posted Fri 26 Dec 19:10
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Because most people only see the rehash (even in N-G.com there are people that think it´s the worst SS just because of that!!). They don´t care about gameplay.
Well, the gameplay isn't all smiles and sunshine either (Meditation mode is pure, uncut, grade A BS... Mina's irritating as hell, but the majority of the cast can handle her if you have enough patience).
Anywho, I greatly enjoy the 1-player mode, myself. Great bosses, great OG SS tunes, no more Shura/Rasetsu, and Gedou is the greatest fighting game character ever. Will definitely be buying the eventual PS2 release.
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| iggy 2354th Post
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| "Re(6):Has anyone played Samurai Shodown Zero?" , posted Sat 27 Dec 03:14:
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it's funny. everyone here seemingly likes the game, yet when i heard peoples' opinions on another board (non-gaming), all i saw were ten to fifteen posts of "it sucks." i don't know what to think of that
Well, the game is graphically 7 (8?) years old, and it came back to his roots of "one hit-kill" after the infamous Amakusa Kôrin. In other words, it's not a combo game, which means it's nothing like any fighting game that came out since Bushido Blade. It's a niche game in a niche genre, without all the glitter of a new GG or KOF, but so much, so much more depth. And I absolutely love the kyôchi mode. The difference between angry characters and calm characters is a brilliant addition, and even though calm characters seem to have the advantage, the conditions to use it are enough tight in my opinion... I mean, Enja of course, but even Gaira, Genjurô or Charlotte are far from weak.
And I say it again : no, there's nothing Gedô can do against Mina. Of course, she loses health 150% faster than a regular character and Gedô only 90%, and only a good AC would whipe her away, but even a not so good Mina player won't let you approach her enough to do that. his head thorwing super and the unko nage are too slow, the roll has too much recovery time...
But her overpowerness is limited to that only character. Even if Gaira may have a thought time fighting her, he has a mirror, and things could get tricky for an overconfident Mina. Other than that, no, she's not overpowered at all. Look to Yoshitora for this.
I can't really see a really weak character currently, except Basara. Maybe his kagedamashii can be of some use against a human player, but once you know the trick, you're left with nearly nothing... 130% of protection is bullshit, 200 of angryness is not enough to use his (not so usefull) bukitobashi with his low protection, but not enough also to raise enough mu no kyôchi... Poor guy, I like him though...
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nobody seems to know what the hell Gedo's Trophy Hunt is
what do you mean?
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| maiku84
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| "Re(1):Has anyone played Samurai Shodown Zero?" , posted Sat 27 Dec 22:54
Oh GOD yes, I've been playing SS0. It is by far one of the best SamShos in a long, long time. Those who only see the rehashed sprites are fools, because God knows SNK's done that a million times before and nobody complained. Those who call upon the death of Playmore for supposedly ruining the franchise are fools.
Anyway, I've played it on Kawaks in lieu of a lack of it in my arcade... The minute it comes out for the PS2 in Japan, I will buy it. I loved the graphics of the last SamShos, even 4, so the rehashing didn't bother me. the gameplay is the best since 2. Suija and Enja rock. Yoshitora Tokugawa's pretty cool.
The Enlightenment technique is a great alternative to raging out for people without much of an ability to max their POW meter, like Jubei, Hanzo, Ukyo, etc. since they can gain more from meditation than angrier characters like Genjuro and Kazuki.
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| Sensenic 1009th Post
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| "Re(7):Has anyone played Samurai Shodown Zero?" , posted Sun 28 Dec 03:34
Hi, I'm back. Let's see...
Some of the reasons of why I also love this game, mainly from its fan number 1, Iggy: ( )
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(...) it came back to his roots of "one hit-kill" after the infamous Amakusa Kôrin. In other words, it's not a combo game, which means it's nothing like any fighting game that came out since Bushido Blade.
And that's good for me, I have more chances of winning ^_^'. And it's more realistic, involving swords and such.
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I absolutely love the kyôchi mode. The difference between angry characters and calm characters is a brilliant addition, (...)
Yup, I love those too (the mode and the difference). A gameplay feature that really relies on the character's personality (while at the same time both modes are still available for anyone, so you can always choose. Realism) is a very good point in my book.
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I can't really see a really weak character currently, except Basara. Maybe his kagedamashii can be of some use against a human player, but once you know the trick, you're left with nearly nothing... 130% of protection is bullshit, 200 of angryness is not enough to use his (not so usefull) bukitobashi with his low protection, but not enough also to raise enough mu no kyôchi... Poor guy, I like him though...
Yeah, I like him also, and I need not to worry about his weakness (^_^'), so he's definitely one of my favourites.
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Gedou is the greatest fighting game character ever.
Amen.
Yunfei also rocks hard. I'd looove to learn him well, so I could be able to not put the feet in the ground even once in some combat.
And one detail I loved so much (don't know if it was in the previous ones, though): Ukyo coughs each time you go over him in the character select screen! 
As many people here the only thing I miss is the story in English :(, hope someone at gamefaqs or wherever will be patient enough to translate all that.
"Kensu" & "Asina" such a nice couple.
Damn boredom that can kill you with a sword!
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| iggy 2375th Post
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| "Re(4):Re(10):Has anyone played Samurai Shodow" , posted Mon 29 Dec 02:18
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You have Yoshitora and Yunfei just do nothing while Charlotte can drink poison and Rimururu gets..crushed..
I kinda like Yoshitora's... It makes him something more than another boring Haomaru-Ryu-etc "I live for the fight" type of hero. He is an "irokonomi" character, and that definitively counts as a plus in my book (well, I'm not sure bestiality with Poppy is very "iki", but... I should check my Edo references one more time).
By the way, in his voice collection, we can hear several different women calling him (screaming his name, saying how beautifull he is, etc), some of them clearly underage, and one of them with a voice that resembles to E.Honda's voice trying to sound feminine (scary)... I thought you heared them in his jiketsu, but it's always the same woman calling... Anybody knows when you hear them in the game?
Oh, and about Yumeji... When you hear her voice when she dies ("tonosama" or "otoosama", I'm not sure), I definitely think she's a "she". I mean, OK, we have seen many transvestites in video games and such, but this particular voice is a clear hint... I think.
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| Puar 625th Post
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| "Re(1):Has anyone played Samurai Shodown Zero?" , posted Fri 2 Jan 11:33
Does anybody know what the hell purpose Kusare-Gedou's b,d,db+C Stomach Move and df,hcf,b,d,db+BC Move does?
Is there any purpose to Mina's moves where she puts Chample to sleep or hides it in her clothes other than to shut that damn thing up?
Lastly, has anybody gotten his f,b,d,u+C or Yoshitora's hcb,f+BC move to work (I swear I've used all of the other six moves before I try this one and it never does anything).
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| OYashiroForever 667th Post
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| "Re(5):Re(10):Has anyone played Samurai Shodow" , posted Fri 2 Jan 12:05:
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Yumeji... When you hear her voice when she dies ("tonosama" or "otoosama", I'm not sure), I definitely think she's a "she". I mean, OK, we have seen many transvestites in video games and such, but this particular voice is a clear hint... I think.
Actually, I think she says "Gaoh-sama!"... and personally, I didn't think there was ever any doubt about Yumeji. Being the daughter of a great swordsman, there's no doubt she's probably a big ol' tomboy, but a tranny? Uhh...
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| iggy 2409th Post
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| "Re(2):Has anyone played Samurai Shodown Zero?" , posted Fri 2 Jan 14:05
Chample moves do nothing, they are only cute. Same thing for Gedô's b,d,db+C, it's only there to be cute. (I don't think you can evade anything with this...?) The last one is the unko nage I think (I'm not used to this way to describe the commands), his hidden move, to slow to be usefull.
For Yoshitora, I think the 6 moves have to hit the opponent, maybe if he guard, it won't work...
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| Sensenic 1026th Post
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| "Re(3):Has anyone played Samurai Shodown Zero?" , posted Fri 2 Jan 14:42
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Lastly, has anybody gotten his f,b,d,u+C or Yoshitora's hcb,f+BC move to work (I swear I've used all of the other six moves before I try this one and it never does anything).
For Yoshitora, I think the 6 moves have to hit the opponent, maybe if he guard, it won't work...
Yup, that's the case, they all 6 gotta hit so you can do the seventh one. Big, impressive, does a lot of damage, but useless actually, because, since you've gotta have hit your rival all those 6 times before, by the time you can do the move you also can already win the combat with a simple (and abusive) fierce (or similar)  .
"Kensu" & "Asina" such a nice couple.
Damn boredom that can kill you with a sword!
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| KTallguy 327th Post
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| "Re(7):Has anyone played Samurai Shodown Zero?" , posted Fri 2 Jan 20:06
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Someone can explain me how to do the "mu no kyochi" and the "issen" please ?
I've read Kao Megura's faq then I try to do these moves, but it don't work.
It's kind of complicated. After you lose one round in a fight, you have the opportunity to do a issen, however first your opponent must attack you until your life has reached a spot marked by an arrow on the top of the lifebar, which will cause your life to turn blue. That area can be extended by meditating, which is done by holding D while standing still. To meditate, you have to have some rage meter, but your rage cannot be full.
When your life is flashing blue, you do a quarter circle back, and press CD together. This will go into the 'slow motion mode' (forgot the japanese name). As your opponent is stuck doing whatever he's doing, you hit BCD together to do 'issen'. Issen will do more damage depending on how full the green bar below your life is. When you do Issen, your rage bar will disappear for the rest of the fight.
To do the normal super moves, you just wait till your rage is full, and do a quarter circle forward and CD. Everyone's motion is the same, but I think one person has two supers...
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| Luisinan 659th Post
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| "Re(8):Has anyone played Samurai Shodown Zero?" , posted Fri 2 Jan 22:31
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Someone can explain me how to do the "mu no kyochi" and the "issen" please ?
I've read Kao Megura's faq then I try to do these moves, but it don't work.
It's kind of complicated. After you lose one round in a fight, you have the opportunity to do a issen, however first your opponent must attack you until your life has reached a spot marked by an arrow on the top of the lifebar, which will cause your life to turn blue. That area can be extended by meditating, which is done by holding D while standing still. To meditate, you have to have some rage meter, but your rage cannot be full.
When your life is flashing blue, you do a quarter circle back, and press CD together. This will go into the 'slow motion mode' (forgot the japanese name). As your opponent is stuck doing whatever he's doing, you hit BCD together to do 'issen'. Issen will do more damage depending on how full the green bar below your life is. When you do Issen, your rage bar will disappear for the rest of the fight.
To do the normal super moves, you just wait till your rage is full, and do a quarter circle forward and CD. Everyone's motion is the same, but I think one person has two supers...
That is the most complicated system I have ever heard about it for a 2D fighter. My head is spinning. Having said that, it really intrigues-- making me want to play the game more.
Samurai Showdown always did intrigue me because of all of its subsystems. It was the first game with a lot of stuff. I mean, its the first (and only?) game with suicides!!!!!!!!
BTW, can someone explain me what this 'meditation' system is/does. People keep referring to it and saying its better for some characters (then the rage system). Thanks much!
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| iggy 2411th Post
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| "Re(4):Has anyone played Samurai Shodown Zero?" , posted Sat 3 Jan 03:44
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As for Gaoh, why would you even need to use the issen on him?
Because it's classy!
Iggy's recipe to cook you Gaô with art :
if you have a calm character : beat Gaô the first round while beeing hit with many weak hit (with the spear, not his throw, it doesn't raise the angryness enough) and meditate enough to not be angry.
2nd round : jump a few times above Ankikô or whatever you will call him, but not all the time. Blocking his rush will do tons of damage, but it will raise your gauge a lot. Do it enough to be nearly angry but not yet (Unpi can block everything without getting angry). Then, meditate, and NEVER HIT GAÔ. let him hit you with his spear and raise again your gauge.
Finaly, 3rd round : get hit enough to raise your gauge and activate your mu no kyôchi, hit Gaô a little (without getting him angry ; 2 bôgyô kuzushi giri will be enough imo) if you're afraid you can't do a 100% Kyôchi, then big combo and issen and DIE, and he won't even have changed in Ankikô of the round.
If your character is more angry (Charolette, for example)(I love Charolette), lose the first round to raise your gauge, win the second by losing a lot, then at the third round, evade Ankikô, hit Gaô a few times, and try your kyôchi.
Yes, there is easier ways to beat him, but this one is more ... Well, I like the kyôchi anyway.
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| iggy 2412th Post
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| "Re(6):Has anyone played Samurai Shodown Zero?" , posted Sat 3 Jan 10:55
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Iggy, is Gedo an angry or calm character? I've only seen him do his super straight out.
Strangely enough, Gedo is a calm character (150 points). Same as Nakoruru, beaten by Rera, Jubei and Sôgetsu (130), Hanzô/Ukyô (90), Suija sama (80) and of course Unpi (50).
But since he's also the one with the biggest protection (90% damage, same as Charolette and Gaira, but their protection lowers when they lose their weapons, when Gedô's doesn't), you can take a lot of damage and raise your kyôchi as much as you want.
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| Sensenic 1032th Post
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| "Re(10):Has anyone played Samurai Shodown Zero" , posted Sat 3 Jan 15:30:
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Some characters' rage meter fills out too quickly for meditation to be very useful. So those rely on the supers that can be used in rage mode. But some characters' rage meter fills out too slowly and thus it is easier for those characters to meditate and use the "slowing down the time" move instead. (which can only be pulled off when you've already lost one round and is about to lose the second round) Yeah, hopefully I explained that correctly.
Very well you indeed explained yourself, as much as I, almost, when I'm trying not to explain to someone (whoever) something (whatever).
Forget about this , just wanted to add (once again repeating myself) that while they've done this very well, creating really different styles of gameplay depending on their personalities, they also left there the possibility to play both ways with any character so you can choose which anytime. For example, if you look for a challenge, try playing the calm way with Enja 
EDIT: Iggy, what are those points you mention (I guess somekind of "enrageable personality" points)? Where did you get them?
Oh, and another thing, now that I come to think of it: it's not that surprising to me that Gedo is a calm character, after all he only worries about eating and doesn't apparently care about anything else. If he can eat, he eats, else he doesn't. That sounds very "calm".
The question is that we (at least I) tend to associate "evil chara = rage chara" and "good chara = calm chara", but this definitely doesn't necessarily have to be this way, look at, don't know, Ash, for example . No?
"Kensu" & "Asina" such a nice couple.
Damn boredom that can kill you with a sword!
A friend of mine talking about elves in LOTR
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| Ultima 341th Post
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| "Re(2):Has anyone played Samurai Shodown Zero?" , posted Sat 3 Jan 22:40
Yes, I've played it. And yes, it's a lot of fun (at least 1-player.. haven't fought anyone else yet, but the Enlightenment mode seems like complete bullshit to me). Best SS game since SS2 (though that's not saying much, really). Favourite new-comers are Yoshitora and Suija. My old characters - Hanzo and Galford - just seem kinda dull here. And they totally raped Galford's SPD, so there's no reason for me to play him anymore. :(
Aside from the potential BS-ness of Enlightenment, my only beef with the game is the damage is a tad too high. Too many characters can do 50% damage with a full normal length sword meter. That's not SS2 style, that's *SS3* style, which is not good. But otherwise, it seems pretty good.
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Does anybody know what the hell purpose Kusare-Gedou's b,d,db+C Stomach Move and df,hcf,b,d,db+BC Move does?
Since no one answered what the second move does, I'll answer: Gedo appears to reach into his ass with his hand, pull out a rather sizeable turd, and throw it at you for minimal damage. o_O
To perform the move, try the OG ghetto motion: qcb,qcf,qcb,qcb + BC. I have only performed this move with this motion (same with Haoh's multi-uppercut in SS2), and never with the "official" motion.
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| iggy 2414th Post
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| "Re(2):Re(10):Has anyone played Samurai Shodow" , posted Sun 4 Jan 02:37
quote Iggy, what are those points you mention (I guess somekind of "enrageable personality" points)? Where did you get them?
Yes, the points are the ikari yasusa of the characters ("easiness to get angry"? I don't know). It was in Arcadia, and so was the damage taken by each character.
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Too many characters can do 50% damage with a full normal length sword meter. That's not SS2 style, that's *SS3* style, which is not good.
Well, I love it personally. It's the point of the whole series (samurai combination? what?), barely any combos, but really, really destructive one hit moves. Here's the tension of the game, you can't be safe with half your energy left, when your opponent is angry, everything you do is dangerous for you... I really like it (well, evil people could say "it's like in KOF, you can't be safe with 100% of your life, your opponent could make an infinite and kill you instantly", but I won't listen to them.
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| Izek
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| "Re(3):Re(10):Has anyone played Samurai Shodow" , posted Sun 4 Jan 04:58:
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EDIT: Iggy, what are those points you mention (I guess somekind of "enrageable personality" points)? Where did you get them?
Yes, the points are the ikari yasusa of the characters ("easiness to get angry"? I don't know). It was in Arcadia, and so was the damage taken by each character.
Too many characters can do 50% damage with a full normal length sword meter. That's not SS2 style, that's *SS3* style, which is not good.
Well, I love it personally. It's the point of the whole series (samurai combination? what?), barely any combos, but really, really destructive one hit moves. Here's the tension of the game, you can't be safe with half your energy left, when your opponent is angry, everything you do is dangerous for you... I really like it (well, evil people could say "it's like in KOF, you can't be safe with 100% of your life, your opponent could make an infinite and kill you instantly", but I won't listen to them.
I got into the series with 5 and am loving it. And I know what you mean by never being safe. I won some matches with only a few dots of energy left while the other guy had almost full, using only about 2 or 3 hits.
Its very different from the other games I play (KOF/Garou/LB) where speed is almost a must, here patience is key.
But in some cases you also cannot be safe in KOF, like with that 2k2 Yashiro glitch combo, easily takes half a bar. Combos in KOF are way too powerful so in it a combo can determine the winnner (seen it happen a million times) whereas in SamSho5 a hit or 2 can decide a match. I don't really care since I love em both (only SamSho5 from the series though).
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| Mosquiton 1041th Post
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| "Re(3):Re(10):Has anyone played Samurai Shodow" , posted Tue 6 Jan 14:30
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Too many characters can do 50% damage with a full normal length sword meter. That's not SS2 style, that's *SS3* style, which is not good.
Well, I love it personally. It's the point of the whole series (samurai combination? what?), barely any combos, but really, really destructive one hit moves. Here's the tension of the game, you can't be safe with half your energy left, when your opponent is angry, everything you do is dangerous for you... I really like it (well, evil people could say "it's like in KOF, you can't be safe with 100% of your life, your opponent could make an infinite and kill you instantly", but I won't listen to them.
Amen to that.
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| Ultima 342th Post
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| "Re(3):Re(10):Has anyone played Samurai Shodow" , posted Tue 6 Jan 22:19
Iggy:
> Yes, the points are the ikari yasusa of the characters ("easiness to get angry"? I don't know). It was in Arcadia, and so was the damage taken by each character.
List the values please. ^_^
> > Too many characters can do 50% damage with a full normal length sword meter. That's not SS2 style, that's *SS3* style, which is not good.
> Well, I love it personally. It's the point of the whole series (samurai combination? what?), barely any combos, but really, really destructive one hit moves.
Yes, but in SS1 and SS2, single hit moves that did more than 33% damage were extremely rare. MOst good AB slashs did 35-30% damage tops, and only very very very randomly would do more than that. This was fine. SS3 went overboard with *regular* 33-50% damage one hit attacks. SS0 isn't quite as bad as SS3, but it's damage is not as well-handled as SS1/2 IMO. The sword meter helps out, but some attacks seem to do way too much damage with a full normal (non POWed, or non-RAGEd) sword meter.
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"Re(5):Has anyone played Samurai Shodown Zero?" 
although Rimururu getting crushed to death by an ice block is pretty damn funny too. 
"Re(6):Has anyone played Samurai Shodown Zero?" 
