...I know the 2 Matrix sequels probably don't deserve the Oscars nomination nods for categories such as "Best Picture" or in the acting departments, since it was pretty bad in those areas.
But to be completely left out in the running for "Best Visual Effects"? Something is really wrong. Especially when T3 gets in the run but not any of the 2 Matrix movies.
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Juan
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"Re(1):OT: The 2 Matrix sequels left out for.."
, posted Mon 22 Dec 08:21
They may be counting all 3 parts as one movie.
, posted Mon 22 Dec 08:37
Yeah,I'm really burnt out on all these damn awards shows already. There are like 30 in one year all ready. But I don't really count the Country Music Awards,seing as how that's not on a grand scale event,IMO.
Well,like I've mentioned a bizillion times whenever it's been brought up,I'm happy for Disney's flicks PoTC and Brother Bear,who're in the nomination ranks. Good for them.
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Juan
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"Re(3):OT: The 2 Matrix sequels left out for.."
, posted Mon 22 Dec 08:59 what
quote: Yeah,I'm really burnt out on all these damn awards shows already. There are like 30 in one year all ready. But I don't really count the Country Music Awards,seing as how that's not on a grand scale event,IMO.
Well,like I've mentioned a bizillion times whenever it's been brought up,I'm happy for Disney's flicks PoTC and Brother Bear,who're in the nomination ranks. Good for them.
, posted Mon 22 Dec 12:58
Movie has to open in New York and L.A. to even be considered for the Oscars, and that's only scratching the surface of the inane requirements.
The Oscars are just another commercial, any more. Bet they could condense it down to 30 seconds if they tried. :|
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Ishmael
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"Re(2):OT: The 2 Matrix sequels left out for.."
, posted Mon 22 Dec 13:04
quote: Movie has to open in New York and L.A. to even be considered for the Oscars, and that's only scratching the surface of the inane requirements.
Oh, so that's why the Matrix movies weren't nominated. They should have known that world-wide except for NY and LA screening schedule was going to hurt their awards chances.
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"Re(1):OT: The 2 Matrix sequels left out for.."
, posted Mon 22 Dec 13:11
No, that wasn't what I was saying.
I'm saying that a lot of good movies don't get considered because of that.
So only popular, wide-release movies are considered, but only if they don't piss off the committee, and agree marginally with the popular vote.
Sort of like the electoral college.
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Gen
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"Re(1):OT: The 2 Matrix sequels left out for.."
, posted Mon 22 Dec 13:47
I thought portions of the 3rd movie had scratchy effects. 2 maybe..... I like the first one best over all for the violent parts.
Last time I checked you only have to have your movie in a Los Angeles theater in order to qualify for an Academy Award.
The Acadamy awards have been slowly loosing credibility to me over the last half decade or so. There are movies that wouldn't have stood a chance years earlier that win awards now.
I think the awards are based on stupid crap rather than purely picking the best of each catagory. Doing something like putting a retarded person in your movie will increase your chances of getting an Oscar. Voters minds should be big enough to realize that having simpathy for retarded people isn't the same thing as the bestness of a film.
Sometimes I think every movie nominated in a particular catagory isn't an Academy Award-level film. I think they should not have every award catagory be manditory every year. In years when they can't find films worthy of the catagory's award, the catagory should be dropped for a year. So it wouldn't be "best even if everything in this catagory is sub par" it would be "best of- if there is at least one Academe Award-level film in this catagory"
CrazyMike
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"Re(3):OT: The 2 Matrix sequels left out for.."
, posted Mon 22 Dec 15:58
Terminator 3 deserves props just for not going overboard with computer FX and actually relying on old fashioned stunts and real environments.
And lay off the anti-Jewish comments @_@
Ammadeau
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"Re(4):OT: The 2 Matrix sequels left out for.."
, posted Mon 22 Dec 20:37
quote: Terminator 3 deserves props just for not going overboard with computer FX and actually relying on old fashioned stunts and real environments.
You must have seen a different T3. It was loaded with computer effects. On the opposite coin, many of the stunts that looked computer fx in Matrix Reloaded were actually done for real.
Two Towers should win this catagory anyway so it's a moot point. For Gollum alone.
CrazyMike
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"Re(5):OT: The 2 Matrix sequels left out for.."
, posted Mon 22 Dec 22:20
quote: You must have seen a different T3. It was loaded with computer effects. On the opposite coin, many of the stunts that looked computer fx in Matrix Reloaded were actually done for real.
Well one of the first scenes that comes to mind is the chase scene with Arnie riding the crane from a giant truck. No Computers there, they actually had him smashing through a building (cushioned, fake walls of course) etc. And the fight in the restroom with the TX was stunt work as well.
Ammadeau
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"Re(6):OT: The 2 Matrix sequels left out for.."
, posted Tue 23 Dec 02:55
quote:Well one of the first scenes that comes to mind is the chase scene with Arnie riding the crane from a giant truck. No Computers there, they actually had him smashing through a building (cushioned, fake walls of course) etc. And the fight in the restroom with the TX was stunt work as well.
Almost every car crushed in the sequence was computer generated. I believe the crane after it was split was also CG. Sure, there was plenty of real stunt work, but there was just as much, if not more, in Matrix Reloaded. I didn't even like MR, but it's silly to write it off as a big CG effect. The actors didn't train for months to be mocap dummies.
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