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| aderack
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|  "Re(5):Saddam = 0wn3d (& some hello-jacking)"
, posted Sun 14 Dec 20:39:
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...the main thing I'm worried about is the reconstruction, since given the US' past history, I wouldn't be too surprised if ANOTHER dictator came to power in Iraq -_-
It would be in the administration's best short-term interest to install a puppet government. Given the scruples of the Shrub Bunch, this is indeed what's in the cards. It's happening now!
Meanwhile, the occupation will continue. Troops will continue to harrass civilians; hapless civilians will continue to fight back; troops will continue to strike back in retaliation against this "terrorism". The cycle will continue, and the US and international news will be fed the most innocuous and positive-sounding spin possible, so nobody knows what we're really doing over there.
The only consequence of Saddam being recaptured is that Bush will go up in the polls. The man can do no harm now. He was already pretty ineffectual when we invaded. It sure sounds good, though. So yay for Bush. Let's support our president, because someone has to.
And if you don't, expect a visit from the secret service.
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YOU CANNOT STOP ME WITH JUST A PARAMECIUM!
[this message was edited by aderack on Sun 14 Dec 20:41] |
| Radish 1969th Post
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| "Re(6):Saddam = 0wn3d (& some hello-jacking)" , posted Sun 14 Dec 21:12:
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...the main thing I'm worried about is the reconstruction, since given the US' past history, I wouldn't be too surprised if ANOTHER dictator came to power in Iraq -_-
It would be in the administration's best short-term interest to install a puppet government. Given the scruples of the Shrub Bunch, this is indeed what's in the cards. It's happening now!
Meanwhile, the occupation will continue. Troops will continue to harrass civilians; hapless civilians will continue to fight back; troops will continue to strike back in retaliation against this "terrorism". The cycle will continue, and the US and international news will be fed the most innocuous and positive-sounding spin possible, so nobody knows what we're really doing over there.
The only consequence of Saddam being recaptured is that Bush will go up in the polls. The man can do no harm now. He was already pretty ineffectual when we invaded. It sure sounds good, though. So yay for Bush. Let's support our president, because someone has to.
And if you don't, expect a visit from the secret service.
This is 10 pounds of bullshit in a 9 pound bag.
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Just let it be good news to people
This should be left at this.
[this message was edited by Radish on Sun 14 Dec 21:18] |
| ninjabastard 706th Post
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| "Re(5):Saddam = 0wn3d (& some hello-jacking)" , posted Mon 15 Dec 17:36:
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Sorry if I sound pessimistic,but hopefully this will be one step closer to ending all the madness going on in the Middle East. Too many innocents have been lost.
Yeah, too bad a lot of people forget that the U.S. had a lot to do with creating such a mess.
To the media: stop the circus.
It runs through my mind how the US is what allowed Sadam to get to power in the first place, but it's not like we can create a time machine and go back and change that. So I guess finally catching Sadam is the next best thing. Or at least, a step towards it. ...the main thing I'm worried about is the reconstruction, since given the US' past history, I wouldn't be too surprised if ANOTHER dictator came to power in Iraq -_-
In the 80's a militant Islamic took control of Iran and took a bunch of US diplomats hostage. Iran at that point became a powerful Islamic power that could have destablilized most of region and take Israel. To prevent that, we supplied Iraq with weapons for their war on Iran. Yet, at the same time we also supplied Iran. This is because it was in our best intrest for niether to win. By putting them agaisnt each other we prevented either from destablizing the region.
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It would be in the administration's best short-term interest to install a puppet government. Given the scruples of the Shrub Bunch, this is indeed what's in the cards. It's happening now!
Meanwhile, the occupation will continue. Troops will continue to harrass civilians; hapless civilians will continue to fight back; troops will continue to strike back in retaliation against this "terrorism". The cycle will continue, and the US and international news will be fed the most innocuous and positive-sounding spin possible, so nobody knows what we're really doing over there.
The only consequence of Saddam being recaptured is that Bush will go up in the polls. The man can do no harm now. He was already pretty ineffectual when we invaded. It sure sounds good, though. So yay for Bush. Let's support our president, because someone has to.
And if you don't, expect a visit from the secret service.
A puppet government would just piss off the Iraqi people. Set up a government making use of German's paralamentary/fedural system and with a consitution monarcy instead of German's president there by giving some legitmacy from throwing back to pre-1958 British style government. This will prevent another strong centralized state among other things which I don't need to list at the moment.
I'm betting the troops must have some civialians that like them because how could they get the info for Saddams bust? Let alone im sure some of the cultural problems have been worked on by now. If we know about it, don't you think the military knows about it? The one we spend around 380 bil on.
Also when we were reconstructing Germany we had guys taking pot shots at us then too. Along with people complaining about the speed of progress.
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Seriously... can't there be one message board on the internet where I can avoid this stupidity? Politics are important and so is political discussion, but people on internet message boards mostly just repeat the same empty bag of stale, hot air you see on the news, hear on the radio, and read in the newspaper.
Most people don't pay attention to poltics. It stems from many things; lack of precieved differences between parties, don't see how it affects them, feel unrepresented, etc.
For the unwillingness to talk can come from many things. When people are unsure of why, they use things like "I don't want to talk about it" or something simlar that ends a conversation to save face. This also happens with religon, and other stuff. It's a lack wanting to see anothers opiton because you feel you're right and you don't want anyone to tell you otherwise because that hurts the view we hold of ourself. In addtion the unwillingnees to state an opition can also come from shyness, low self-esteem, and wanting to avoid confrontations. Also for the avg person polical views don't effect people in anyway negtively when you dont have to test them. Therefore people develop a strong attachment to their politcal views because they don't see the outcomes of these views. However, when looking at history and the effects in other counties it shows how wrong they are.
I guess too much caffine, lack of sleep and I'm still filling talky from my poly sci final makes a big post. Feel free to critic, I always love a dissucsion to understand another's view.(I read most of that Iraq website too)
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