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| Undead Fred 1164th Post
 
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|  "Re(1):Anyone seen The Last Samurai yet?"
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I am just looking for opinions, I haven't seen it myself. I was hoping someone here could tell me if it was a good samurai movie or not worth seeing. I was also wondering about the use of Japanese through the film. Like if Cruise had to learn Japanese or he was lucky enough to end up in a village of English speaking samurai.
Eh, I haven't seen it, but I don't think it looks very good... I mean, I looove feudal Japan stuff (ninjas and samurai! whee!), but this movie just struck me as a "people seem interested in Japan nowadays, so we'll have some American guy becoming a samurai and stuff" kind of movie. That's why I've been calling the movie "Japanese Stuff" (spoken in movie trailer voice-over style). I don't know, maybe it will end up being good. Right now, though, it seems more like a gimmicky movie... it's hard to put into words, but maybe someone will get what I'm saying.
Has anyone actually seen it yet?
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| Hungrywolf 2526th Post
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| "Re(5):Anyone seen The Last Samurai yet?" , posted Sat 6 Dec 09:05
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Eh,I don't rely on Rotten Tomatoes now.
Yeah, they did lie about that piece of crap X2, I guess it's not really relible in most cases.
(no sarcasim there, folks. The only way X2 would be even half way good is to cut out all the awful parts and call it "5 minutes with Nightcrawler")
You hated X2? Bleah. Don't want to turn this into a discussion about X2 but I liked it a lot.
Which reminds me-- I can't buy the stupid new X2 DVD because in a year, (or 3 months before X3 is released) they'll come out with a super special championship hyper turbo alpha edition of the damn movie.
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Return of the King better win Best Picture this year. Or else there will be hell to pay. There is no fury greater then that of an enflamed geekdom. We do control the technology that makes coffee hot and fresh. Not to mention banks, electricity, water and all that other crap.
I don't know if RotK should win best picture, I have to see it first. I have to say, now that I've actually read The Fellowship of the Ring that I have a lot of things I could complain about about the movie. I understand changing some things, but some of them didn't have to be changed.
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| Luisinan 608th Post
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| "Re(6):Anyone seen The Last Samurai yet?" , posted Sat 6 Dec 20:37
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I don't know if RotK should win best picture, I have to see it first. I have to say, now that I've actually read The Fellowship of the Ring that I have a lot of things I could complain about about the movie. I understand changing some things, but some of them didn't have to be changed.
What were some of the changes ya didn't like HW? I'm a hardcore Tolkien fan.
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But I was very happy with Fellowship. I got angry with Two Towers, but after seeing the Extended DVD and hearing Jackson explain why they changed Faramir's character, I understood the changes they made and appreciated them. I pretty much appreciate all the changes Jackson made.
I also think Jackson shoulda won best picture for Fellowship. Maybe for Two Towers. I can't remember what won best picture for either those years. But Fellowship was a beautiful movie. I think it's slightly above Two Towers. I didn't like Two Towers all that much when I first saw it. But I've grown to like it more as I've re-watched it.
So anyway, I think RoTK should get best picture because Jackson got ignored the last two years. The work he and his team put into these three movies is PHENOMENAL and it SHOWS. And I'm talking about the whole package, not just CGI and junk.
Anyway, I better not over hype myself about RoTK. I eagerly look forward to it. BTW, Two Towers was probably the most boring or unexciting part of the trilogy. THINGS GOT SCARY in Felloship. Well, THINGS GET NASTY IN RoTK. But enough super hype.
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| Hungrywolf 2529th Post
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| "Re(7):Anyone seen The Last Samurai yet?" , posted Sat 6 Dec 22:59
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I don't know if RotK should win best picture, I have to see it first. I have to say, now that I've actually read The Fellowship of the Ring that I have a lot of things I could complain about about the movie. I understand changing some things, but some of them didn't have to be changed.
What were some of the changes ya didn't like HW? I'm a hardcore Tolkien fan.
HARDCORE
But I was very happy with Fellowship. I got angry with Two Towers, but after seeing the Extended DVD and hearing Jackson explain why they changed Faramir's character, I understood the changes they made and appreciated them. I pretty much appreciate all the changes Jackson made.
I also think Jackson shoulda won best picture for Fellowship. Maybe for Two Towers. I can't remember what won best picture for either those years. But Fellowship was a beautiful movie. I think it's slightly above Two Towers. I didn't like Two Towers all that much when I first saw it. But I've grown to like it more as I've re-watched it.
So anyway, I think RoTK should get best picture because Jackson got ignored the last two years. The work he and his team put into these three movies is PHENOMENAL and it SHOWS. And I'm talking about the whole package, not just CGI and junk.
Anyway, I better not over hype myself about RoTK. I eagerly look forward to it. BTW, Two Towers was probably the most boring or unexciting part of the trilogy. THINGS GOT SCARY in Felloship. Well, THINGS GET NASTY IN RoTK. But enough super hype.
Well, I'm thoroughly disappointed in the absence of Tom Bombadil. But I can understand it, I guess (too bad that we missed seeing Fatty Lumpkin). It was never explained that Frodo's birthday is the same day as Bilbo's. Also, Frodo waited 20+ years 'til he actually left the Shire (he was 50) and the way that Merry and Pippin came to leave with him was altered in the movie. Also, I feel that Merry and Pippen were made to be too comedic in the movie. In the book I find they seem a lot more mature. Then there is the fact that Arwen had nothing to do with getting Frodo to Rivendell. It was another elf, I forgot his name. If Arwen had been in the movie as long as she was in the book, she would have only been in the movie for about two to three minutes. Also, Narsil was reforged and renamed in The Fellowship, and it was carried (while broken) by Aragorn the whole time. Another thing regarding Arwen (this is just a gripe of mine): I don't think that Liv Tyler is pretty enough to be Arwen. I do think she's attractive, but after reading the book and seeing who Arwen is compared to I think they should've had someone else. Then there is the fact that Boromir isn't killed in The Fellowship of the Ring, but in the movie he was (I'm assuming it happens in The Two Towers). There are many other things too but I don't feel like typing it all right now.
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| Mosquiton 1015th Post
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| "Tom Bombadil" , posted Mon 8 Dec 07:05
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Well, I'm thoroughly disappointed in the absence of Tom Bombadil.
I know musical numbers are popular these days, but cutting Tom Bombadil for the movie is probably one of the best decisions Jackson made in regard to content changes. Of course, I'd say most of the things you listed are minor quibbles but then again I'm not a LoTR purist...
"Hey dol! merry dol! ring a dong dillo!
Ring a dong! hop along! fal lal the willow!
Tom Bom, jolly Tom, Tom Bombadillo!
Hey! Come merry dol! derry dol! My darling!
Light goes the weather-wind and the feathered starling.
Down along under Hill, shining in the sunlight,
Waiting on the doorstep for the cold starlight,
There my pretty lady is, River-woman's daughter,
Slender as the willow-wand, clearer than the water.
Old Tom Bombadil water-lilies bringing
Comes hopping home again. Can you hear him singing?
Hey! Come merry dol! derry dol! and merry-o,
Goldberry, Goldberry, merry yellow berry-o!
Poor old Willow-man, you tuck your roots away!
Tom's in a hurry now. Evening will follow day.
Tom's going home home again water-lilies bringing.
Hey! come derry dol! Can you hear me singing?
Hop along, my little friends, up the Withywindle!
Tom's going on ahead candles for to kindle.
Down west sinks the Sun: soon you will be groping.
When the night-shadows fall, then the door will open,
Out of the window-panes light will twinkle yellow.
Fear no alder black! Heed no hoary willow!
Fear neither root nor bough! Tom goes on before you.
Hey now! merry dol! We'll be waiting for you!
Hey! Come derry dol! Hop along, my hearties!
Hobbits! Ponies all! We are fond of parties.
Now let the fun begin! Let us sing together!
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*- I know the actual Fellowship did some singing in the books but, heh. It's called adaptation.
ALSO... I'm going to see Last Samurai, but despite how good it may be I have to flinch at the cultural vanity of a white guy becoming an exceptional samurai and
Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
doing the widow of a Japanese guy he killed
End of Spoiler
. But maybe I heard wrong in the first place... at least it looks very historical even if it isn't.
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| thebigword
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| "Re(1):excellent movie" , posted Tue 9 Dec 13:55
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I had a lot of reservations about this movie, but it turned out much better than I expected.
I just got back form seeing it and I agree. I'm can be a pretty cynical guy but I admit the movie got me quite emotional and I enjoyed the hell out of it.
I feel sorry for the people I meet face to face who have bad things to say about it, because I'm fucking bristling with counterpoints.
Anyway, again, highly recommended.
Just got back from seeing it, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thought it was well done. (It should at least get nominated, and the battle should be between this and ROTK. But, you know the Academy, they always find some sissy movie and vote for that.) I didn't think the ending was that bad, and...
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Algren was finally able to find some peace in his life, considering what he's been through over the years...
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For those afraid of seeing a long movie, don't be. It's only 2 and 1/2 hours(2 hours and 45 minutes WITH trailers), and it goes by rather quick.
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