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"Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Thu 4 Dec 09:33post reply


I just remembered that the VGA's are on tonight at 9 on Spike TV. Isn't the host David Spade? I am most excited about the RAW vs Smackdown match more that the actual awards ceremony since none of my fav games are on it.






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"Re(1):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Thu 4 Dec 11:30post reply


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I just remembered that the VGA's are on tonight at 9 on Spike TV. Isn't the host David Spade? I am most excited about the RAW vs Smackdown match more that the actual awards ceremony since none of my fav games are on it.



totally forgot about the raw vs. smackdown match. you know who it is? someone notable I hope. though I doubt they'd ever give us goldberg v. lesnar at some crappy video game award show, I'd hope for a decent midcard match.

here's the results if you're interested.





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"Re(2):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Thu 4 Dec 11:49post reply


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I just remembered that the VGA's are on tonight at 9 on Spike TV. Isn't the host David Spade? I am most excited about the RAW vs Smackdown match more that the actual awards ceremony since none of my fav games are on it.


totally forgot about the raw vs. smackdown match. you know who it is? someone notable I hope. though I doubt they'd ever give us goldberg v. lesnar at some crappy video game award show, I'd hope for a decent midcard match.

here's the results if you're interested.



I say, what the hell.

Best fighting game = WWE Smackdown!: Here Comes the Pain

Ugly. Looks like sponsoring to win is still a popular activity for award shows.

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"Re(3):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Thu 4 Dec 12:32post reply


Almost every game nominated was an American developed game with the exception of DOA Volleyball... which will probably win. So many brilliant games overlooked... but it is America... and it is Spike TV.





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"Re(4):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Thu 4 Dec 12:34post reply


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Almost every game nominated was an American developed game with the exception of DOA Volleyball... which will probably win. So many brilliant games overlooked... but it is America... and it is Spike TV.



The last one is the most important reason. This is truly the network for the brain-dead. The Man Show couldn't even fake being this dumb.





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"Re(5):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Thu 4 Dec 12:37post reply


Yeah really... I actually just took a peak at the winners and almost barfed.



Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
Splinter cell beat Final Fantasy Tactics Advance as the best portable game?!

Enter the Matrix won best game based on a movie?!


End of Spoiler



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"Re(6):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Thu 4 Dec 12:45post reply


Argh, embarrassing for the games industry...funny thing is that among the non-gaming community at large, most of the best-known games have got to be Japanese. Yeah, you've got GTA and Mortal Kombat in the public consciousness, but icons like Mario, Sonic, Final Fantasy, Street Fighter, "Resident Evil"/Biohazard, Pokemon are pretty much recognizable by most people. It's not like a smattering of Japanese gamings winning (as they should have) would have weirded people out, I'd think...

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"chosen by online polling..." , posted Thu 4 Dec 12:46post reply


According to that GS article.





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"Raw Vs Smackdown" , posted Thu 4 Dec 14:45post reply


I believe the match is Mysterio vs Jericho, two of the best guys in the WWE right now IMO.





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"Re(2):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Thu 4 Dec 14:53post reply


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I just remembered that the VGA's are on tonight at 9 on Spike TV. Isn't the host David Spade? I am most excited about the RAW vs Smackdown match more that the actual awards ceremony since none of my fav games are on it.


totally forgot about the raw vs. smackdown match. you know who it is? someone notable I hope. though I doubt they'd ever give us goldberg v. lesnar at some crappy video game award show, I'd hope for a decent midcard match.

here's the results if you're interested.



Wind Waker didn't win anything.

I did vote, but I don't think many of my votes were the ones chosen. That's too bad. Oh well.






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"Re(3):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Thu 4 Dec 15:40post reply


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Wind Waker didn't win anything.


At least Soul Calibur II won.





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"Re(1):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Thu 4 Dec 18:58post reply


And this is why you don't let the general public vote for award shows. You get weird results like the awful Enter the matrix winning due to the movie tie in. I hope next year they drop the public input except for one or two awards, and go for a more serious attempt...

But then again it's Spike TV so I wasn't expecting much...







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"Re(2):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Thu 4 Dec 19:35post reply


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And this is why you don't let the general public vote for award shows. You get weird results like the awful Enter the matrix winning due to the movie tie in. I hope next year they drop the public input except for one or two awards, and go for a more serious attempt...

But then again it's Spike TV so I wasn't expecting much...



To tell you the truth, the kind of gamers "we are" (here at MMCafe) are really niche gamers. The mainstream tends to like things different from us. That's why a lot of games are American games. Look at some of the sales statistics for games sold in the US. For August 2003, Madden 2004 outsould Soul Calibur 2 (source: http://www.npdfunworld.com/funServlet?nextpage=trend_body.html&content_id=460 ). Other months have similar statistics.

To compare, the VGAs on Spike TV are probably like the People's Choice Awards and the MTV Movie Awards because they are based on the mainstream. Think of it this way: Tekken 4 is more mainstream accepted than VF4 Evo, yet VF4 is more critically acclaimed. In a popularity contest, people would probably prefer Tekken 4 over VF4. As far as I know, there is no video game award that is the equivalent of the Academy Awards (at least to my knowledge).

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"Re(3):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Thu 4 Dec 19:39post reply


Now that would be cool. To have an Acadamy Awards type thing for video games. But the Acadamy can also be snobby. But yeah, these SpikeTV awards aren't much of a surprise. We, us who post in this forum, are like the indie film geeks. Yup.






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"Re(2):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Thu 4 Dec 20:28post reply


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And this is why you don't let the general public vote for award shows. You get weird results like the awful Enter the matrix winning due to the movie tie in. I hope next year they drop the public input except for one or two awards, and go for a more serious attempt...

But then again it's Spike TV so I wasn't expecting much...


Since the catagory was for best movie related game, it was either that or Two Towers. Both games were terrible (imo) so I don't see how it mattered.

DOAX won for best animation (I dare anyone to deny this, say what you want about the gameplay, the mocap and modeling is perfect)

THUG won for best sports (it's the only 'sports' game I played, so hell yeah),

True Crime won for... best action I think. Debatable, but the action is both good and varied there.

Madden got GOTY, but considering its sales I think that's justified.

The portable game choice was a crock, but I think overall the choices were pretty good.





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"Re(1):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Thu 4 Dec 21:22post reply


quote:
I just remembered that the VGA's are on tonight at 9 on Spike TV. Isn't the host David Spade? I am most excited about the RAW vs Smackdown match more that the actual awards ceremony since none of my fav games are on it.

holy cow batman that's a huge bunch of screaming teeny boppers they packed in there.





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"Re(2):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Thu 4 Dec 21:27:post reply


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I just remembered that the VGA's are on tonight at 9 on Spike TV. Isn't the host David Spade? I am most excited about the RAW vs Smackdown match more that the actual awards ceremony since none of my fav games are on it.
holy cow batman that's a huge bunch of screaming teeny boppers they packed in there.

dang this show is annoying. I'll just look at the results page.





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"Re(3):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Thu 4 Dec 21:32:post reply


Personally I think the show was just fixed. Who's going to contest the votes in what's obviously a joke award show.... although it's not meant to be a joke like the Comedy Central "Commies". I think the awards were generally given to games developed by companies who advertise on Spike TV. That's the only way I can explain Splinter Cell beating FFTactics and Advance Wars 2. Smackdown won best fighting game because the network airs Smackdown.... and they just gave Soul Calibur 2 the most addictive game award so they wouldn't be totally shafted. It goes beyond just mainstream games winning... because every message board post I've seen about this award show has had the similar "what the hell" kind of attitude to it.

For anyone interested, here's the url to let Spike know what you think of the show http://www.spiketv.com/home/comments /





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"Re(1):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Thu 4 Dec 22:33post reply


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I just remembered that the VGA's are on tonight at 9 on Spike TV. Isn't the host David Spade? I am most excited about the RAW vs Smackdown match more that the actual awards ceremony since none of my fav games are on it.



the VGA make me sad -__- They really should have called it "the Player's Choice Awards" or something that implied it was just an on-line survery they decide to televise with a bunch of B-list stars coming to watch. Or maybe they could have taken the scores from various credible magazines, averaged them and gave the score to the winner to have some shred of real backing for the awards.

Why did David Spade host? He hosted the Teen Choice Awards earlier this year... I guess he was either really funny or is so desperate for work he'll take any job that keeps in the public eye.






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"Re(2):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Thu 4 Dec 22:35post reply


the wrestling match was super lame. between jericho and mysterio, it could have been SO much better.

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"Re(3):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Fri 5 Dec 06:11post reply


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Why did David Spade host? He hosted the Teen Choice Awards earlier this year... I guess he was either really funny or is so desperate for work he'll take any job that keeps in the public eye.


Hey, gotta keep the bread on the table. Isn't Just Shoot Me over now?

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the wrestling match was super lame. between jericho and mysterio, it could have been SO much better.


Why would they bother trying at a show like this? I'm kinda glad they didn't just do whatever Vinnie says. And, no, I'm not biased against him because of his onscreen persona, I'm biased because of his even more cutthroat and despicable real-life persona.

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"Re(4):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Fri 5 Dec 12:30post reply


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Personally I think the show was just fixed. Who's going to contest the votes in what's obviously a joke award show.... although it's not meant to be a joke like the Comedy Central "Commies". I think the awards were generally given to games developed by companies who advertise on Spike TV. That's the only way I can explain Splinter Cell beating FFTactics and Advance Wars 2. Smackdown won best fighting game because the network airs Smackdown.... and they just gave Soul Calibur 2 the most addictive game award so they wouldn't be totally shafted. It goes beyond just mainstream games winning... because every message board post I've seen about this award show has had the similar "what the hell" kind of attitude to it.

For anyone interested, here's the url to let Spike know what you think of the show http://www.spiketv.com/home/comments /

Yeah, this show is a crock. I'm glad I didn't watch it... it would have been just another thing to frustrate me ("Why are these people so stupid??" and it would be stuck in my mind all day). And I didn't know David Spade was considered "deadpan." I could complain all day about which games won and how many good ones were left out, but I will say this- WRESTLING GAMES ARE NOT "FIGHTING GAMES."

As for the comment about us being niche gamers here, I consider myself a gamer, not only a niche gamer (bleh... I've never liked that term "gamer" anyway... it sounds stupid). If they have a award show for GAMES that's anywhere close to serious... well, serious in terms of the choices... then they HAVE to take actual gamers into account. Otherwise you'll have NASCAR games winning race game awards and wrestling games winning fighting game awards (nice how Soul Calibur 2 isn't a fighting game). The opinion of people that only play sports games and have tried Grand Theft Auto in short bursts and complain when there's any story in a game shouldn't even be taken into account. I'm not sure if the "public opinion" part is to blame, though. Maybe they had a terrible selection of games to choose online (if their results were actually taken from an online poll and not simply bought off), so even actual gamers couldn't choose anything good. Kind of like the courtroom scene in Family Guy- "Which of these best describes the defendant: sexual deviant, or magic picture that, when you stare at it long enough, you see things?"






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"Re(5):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Fri 5 Dec 14:12:post reply


I didn't watch the show and I think the results are stupid too, but what is up with the hate for American games? I mean i've posted here about Atari before and it was a revolutionary product yet people have called it crap and worshipped the Famicom as if it was the true God of gaming who should pay no tribute to its ancestors. Is there an inate biased against American games?

I think the Japanese make better console games generally, but when it comes to the PC market, they generally have not gotten past cheesy hentai titles while in the US there exists a great amount of strategy games, war games, simulation, FPS, even flight simulators; and generally such genres are not as deep or as well-crafted in Japan. The best example is Final Fantasy Tactics/Advance, it is a fun game and all, but the strategy element of it is pretty elementary compared to more hardcore strategy PC game in America where you have to monitor everything down to every detail. A good example would be Rise of Nations, Hearts of Iron, etc.

Another plus of American gaming is that it stands away from the cut throat mentality of corporate gaming in Japan and manages to let the average joe have his day when it comes to PC game modding. Where else can a couple of guys create a little mod called Counter-Strike and watch it become the most played online game of all time? (Although Gooseman is Vietmanese-Canadian) I also know, having worked on the Day of Defeat mod for Half-Life, that it is one thing to play a game, but even more thrilling to see your work actually in it.





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"Re(6):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Fri 5 Dec 14:19:post reply


When it comes to consoles american games (not counting console first person shooters) are pretty bad for the most part. Latest exception I played was knights of the old republic. I might be forgetting some titles so throw me a bone please.

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I mean i've posted here about Atari before and it was a revolutionary product yet people have called it crap and worshipped the Famicom as if it was the true God of gaming who should pay no tribute to its ancestors.


Point the thread(s) please.

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"Re(6):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Fri 5 Dec 14:27:post reply


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I didn't watch the show and I think the results are stupid too, but what is up with the hate for American games? I mean i've posted here about Atari before and it was a revolutionary product yet people have called it crap and worshipped the Famicom as if it was the true God of gaming who should pay no tribute to its ancestors. Is there an inate biased against American games?
In many cases people want to worship whatever game system they owned first. Or at least many people get really biased towards it. If their first system was Nintendo for example, a big chunk of those people will enter into the my god is better than your god mind set.

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I think the Japanese make better console games generally, but when it comes to the PC market,



VGA:
No disrespect to FMF, but he has sub-George Walker Bush lingual skills. The part I tuned in on had FMF struggling up sentances, and a laugh-track like background sound, which to my surprise when the camera panned over, could have been real if they audiance-miked that stadium sized load of masterbating-teens. Then some sucky band came on. Had to stop watching. I like David Spade; if tevo could be programed to record just the parts with him in it I'd buy one. Do you remember that terrible Nickelodeon show where they had mock trials between parents and kids and an audiance of kids would scream in their most annoying tones "fair" or "unfair"? For some reason The VGA show reminded me of that.





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"Video Lame Awards" , posted Fri 5 Dec 16:35post reply


The whole show blew. Too much camera time on the bands, not enough on the games, Flex was annoying and Spade didn't even give a shit.

You could tell by the end that they just wanted to get it over with.





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"...?!" , posted Fri 5 Dec 16:57post reply


...

... they were promoting GAMES?!



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"Re(3):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Fri 5 Dec 20:58post reply


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I just remembered that the VGA's are on tonight at 9 on Spike TV. Isn't the host David Spade? I am most excited about the RAW vs Smackdown match more that the actual awards ceremony since none of my fav games are on it.


totally forgot about the raw vs. smackdown match. you know who it is? someone notable I hope. though I doubt they'd ever give us goldberg v. lesnar at some crappy video game award show, I'd hope for a decent midcard match.

here's the results if you're interested.


I say, what the hell.

Best fighting game = WWE Smackdown!: Here Comes the Pain

Ugly. Looks like sponsoring to win is still a popular activity for award shows.

Sometimes I wonder why I don't have cable, then I see what I'm missing and it doesn't bother me so much.



Wow. also funny that game just being released no more than 2 weeks ago.





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"Re(4):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Sat 6 Dec 02:19post reply


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Wow. also funny that game just being released no more than 2 weeks ago.

Well, that means it's that much more magical and pleeesing that it jumped straight into an award so quickly!






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"Re(6):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Sat 6 Dec 03:22post reply


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I think the Japanese make better console games generally, but when it comes to the PC market, they generally have not gotten past cheesy hentai titles

Remind me... How many japanese PC games actually crossed the ocean, besides those funny games they review at SO?
Yeah, true, japanese PC games sucks, Y's 6 doesn't exist and VM Japan is an australian game.





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"Re(5):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Sat 6 Dec 09:15post reply


I will say Smackdown:HCTP is a great Wrestling game and the best wrestling game I've ever played, but it's not a fighting game and Soul Calibur 2 should've won that. They should've put HCTP into the best sports game category. Still, the show was awful and the results were awful. The show moved around so fast from one thing to the next that I couldn't watch it, it was annoying.






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"Re(6):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Sat 6 Dec 09:20post reply


While this does seem to be a load of shit, I'm really confused. How did FFXI get best online game? The PS2 version isn't even out yet, unless they considered the Beta worthy of contention.



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Not to derail but while Splinter Cell was a crappy GBA game I don't think FFTA deserved to win either...

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"Re(7):Video Game Awards on tonight" , posted Sat 6 Dec 09:36post reply


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When it comes to consoles american games (not counting console first person shooters) are pretty bad for the most part. Latest exception I played was knights of the old republic. I might be forgetting some titles so throw me a bone please.

Bioware is a Canadian company. Small difference but it does seem to matter.

Metal Arms is the best game to come out all year and it was made in the good old USA, though it's kinda an FPS (like a fps / platformer hybrid I guess) and there's the mighty Tony Hawk series that I think is always great... if we pretend 3 didn't exist.

Sure Japan has had some great games too, but it's a different sort of prejudice that doesn't look past the most popular of western games.

I'd also say a wrestling game has more in common with VF4 than it does with something like Madden.





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"More Idiotic Award Shows Coming This Week!!!!" , posted Sun 7 Dec 12:26post reply


Don't forget Comedy Central's "Commie Awards" air tonight at 9! (after the "premier" of Austin Powers 1... a movie that's been shown on other channels millions of times and even on Comedy Central once before! Making for an entire night of unwatchable TV!)

And on Tuesday the 9th FX continues they're trend of pretending knowing what a DVD is makes them cool (as good a concept as "DVD on TV" is I wish they would call it something else) by holding the "DVD Extra's Awards"


So basically as pointless and awful as the VGA's were they could have been worse... they weren't giving awards for Best Eastereggs.






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Latest exception I played was knights of the old republic.


Sorry to go offtopic, but I was wondering something...

When you played the game, did you go to the dark side?
I know I did, being evil is the most fun thing you could get in a game.

I wish more games were like this little gem (the first good Star Wars game), being able to side with the good or the evil is excellent (on a sidenote, I was expecting something like this when I was playing Shenmue, but damn Ryo, he's always the good boy)





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"Re(1):KOTOR" , posted Sun 7 Dec 14:21post reply


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Latest exception I played was knights of the old republic.

Sorry to go offtopic, but I was wondering something...

When you played the game, did you go to the dark side?
I know I did, being evil is the most fun thing you could get in a game.

I wish more games were like this little gem (the first good Star Wars game), being able to side with the good or the evil is excellent (on a sidenote, I was expecting something like this when I was playing Shenmue, but damn Ryo, he's always the good boy)



I luv this game! I'm playing through the game first on the light side, then I'll go dark. I just had my jedi training and left to choose what world to go to. It is one of the best RPGs out there, and a Star wars game at that!





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"Re(2):KOTOR" , posted Sun 7 Dec 15:11post reply


if you think kotor is a good rpg you should try some of biowares older stuff

fallout/fallout2

neverwinter nights

planescape: torment(this game is a good mindfuck)



they've got a new rpg set in china, jade empire, should be commin out soon






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"Re(3):KOTOR" , posted Sun 7 Dec 15:43post reply


quote:
if you think kotor is a good rpg you should try some of biowares older stuff

fallout/fallout2

neverwinter nights

planescape: torment(this game is a good mindfuck)



they've got a new rpg set in china, jade empire, should be commin out soon



is it coming out on the PC? that's how I'm playing KOTOR





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"Re(4):KOTOR" , posted Sun 7 Dec 20:51post reply


Jade Empire is an xbox exclusive. It's not coming anywhere else, but then it's not coming for a while either.

I beat KOTOR light side myself because the dark side seemed so stupid. All the Sith were like typical movie villians 'hahaha, I am so evil for no reason at all! EVIL!' especially when you knew, like movie villians, that they were all going to die before the final act.

I thought the actual gameplay of KOTOR was horrible in some ways, but the game had great presentation to make up for it. Supposedly Jade Empire will actually be an action rpg so I might like that better.





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"Re(5):KOTOR" , posted Sun 7 Dec 21:43post reply


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Jade Empire is an xbox exclusive. It's not coming anywhere else, but then it's not coming for a while either.

I beat KOTOR light side myself because the dark side seemed so stupid. All the Sith were like typical movie villians 'hahaha, I am so evil for no reason at all! EVIL!' especially when you knew, like movie villians, that they were all going to die before the final act.

I thought the actual gameplay of KOTOR was horrible in some ways, but the game had great presentation to make up for it. Supposedly Jade Empire will actually be an action rpg so I might like that better.



oh well, that's too bad. But, you know how other Xbox exclusives are, they don't stay that way for long. If anything there'll be a port to pc





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"Re(6):KOTOR" , posted Mon 8 Dec 03:24post reply


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oh well, that's too bad. But, you know how other Xbox exclusives are, they don't stay that way for long. If anything there'll be a port to pc


MS owns the rights to the game so they'll only port it when they feel they've leeched all the value from it otherwise, like Halo.

Xbox still has 6 exclusive games I like (not on any other consoles including pc) that and gets the best of the ports so it earns its keep for me.





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"Re(7):KOTOR" , posted Mon 8 Dec 04:33post reply


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oh well, that's too bad. But, you know how other Xbox exclusives are, they don't stay that way for long. If anything there'll be a port to pc

MS owns the rights to the game so they'll only port it when they feel they've leeched all the value from it otherwise, like Halo.

Xbox still has 6 exclusive games I like (not on any other consoles including pc) that and gets the best of the ports so it earns its keep for me.



dont worry, they've got another unannounced rpg for pc






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"Re(7):KOTOR" , posted Mon 8 Dec 06:15post reply


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oh well, that's too bad. But, you know how other Xbox exclusives are, they don't stay that way for long. If anything there'll be a port to pc

MS owns the rights to the game so they'll only port it when they feel they've leeched all the value from it otherwise, like Halo.

Xbox still has 6 exclusive games I like (not on any other consoles including pc) that and gets the best of the ports so it earns its keep for me.



I'm just saying a few of it's most popular games, like Splinter Cell (which could only be touted as exclusive for a few months), KOTOR(the same), and of course Halo, all came to the pc. I doubt Bioware would turn it's back on the pc community, the ones that helped their games become so popular in the first place. It could easily be ported to the pc, just about anygame from Xbox could; it's just a lower end pc inside, with a low end Geforce graphics card. If Microsoft knows what's best, they'll port it. The game would more than likely benefit coming to pc.





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"Re(3):KOTOR" , posted Mon 8 Dec 10:43:post reply


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if you think kotor is a good rpg you should try some of biowares older stuff

fallout/fallout2

neverwinter nights

planescape: torment(this game is a good mindfuck)



Planescape and Fallout(2) were both made by Black Isle, the division of Interplay that published Baldur's Gate 1/2. Baldurs Gate 1/2 are Bioware games.

In related RPG news: Obsidian Entertainment is working with Bioware on new games. Obsidian was started by the former head of Black Isle and has a few other former islanders working for them.





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if you think kotor is a good rpg you should try some of biowares older stuff

fallout/fallout2

neverwinter nights

planescape: torment(this game is a good mindfuck)


Planescape and Fallout(2) were both made by Black Isle, the division of Interplay that published Baldur's Gate 1/2. Baldurs Gate 1/2 are Bioware games.

In related RPG news: Obsidian Entertainment is working with Bioware on new games. Obsidian was started by the former head of Black Isle and has a few other former islanders working for them.



officially they're sister companies within interplay(which is dead finally YAY!!! not that take2 is anybetter)

of course all their games(except for wasteland) use bioware engines ;p

they share code between themselves like i share saliva with iggy






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"Re(5):KOTOR" , posted Mon 8 Dec 13:17post reply


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officially they're sister companies within interplay(which is dead finally YAY!!! not that take2 is anybetter)

of course all their games(except for wasteland) use bioware engines ;p

they share code between themselves like i share saliva with iggy



Black Isle is a division of Interplay. AKA Interplay owns Black Isle. They are not sister companies. Bioware has no connection to interplay aside from the publisher/developer kind.

The Planscape and Icewindale games use the Infinity engine. Bioware developed the engine for Baldur's Gate and liscenced it to Black Isle. Fallout1/2 use a different engine. I believe the Fallout engine was developed internally by BI.

The game BI is working on now is using an interally built engine, not a bioware engine. For a while BI was working on Torn, which was using the Neverwinter Nights engine; but that project got cancelled a long long time ago.





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"Re(6):KOTOR" , posted Mon 8 Dec 13:38post reply


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officially they're sister companies within interplay(which is dead finally YAY!!! not that take2 is anybetter)

of course all their games(except for wasteland) use bioware engines ;p

they share code between themselves like i share saliva with iggy


Black Isle is a division of Interplay. AKA Interplay owns Black Isle. They are not sister companies. Bioware has no connection to interplay aside from the publisher/developer kind.

The Planscape and Icewindale games use the Infinity engine. Bioware developed the engine for Baldur's Gate and liscenced it to Black Isle. Fallout1/2 use a different engine. I believe the Fallout engine was developed internally by BI.

The game BI is working on now is using an interally built engine, not a bioware engine. For a while BI was working on Torn, which was using the Neverwinter Nights engine; but that project got cancelled a long long time ago.



it was the lithtech engine

and it looked decent, dunno why it was canned, shouldve been out when avp2 came out






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planescape: torment(this game is a good mindfuck)


True enough. It's quite nifty though. I haven't finished it, but it's sure freakin' nutty.

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they share code between themselves like i share saliva with iggy



Jeez, Anna Nicole must be gettin' lonely... hey, Kikkoken, how's your love life lately?



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"The commies" on comedy central was a great show. A lot more entertaining than VGAs. Anything with Andy Richter ends up good in my book and seeing him on stage with Triumph made it better. Is Rodney Danergfield really sick or something, because he didn't look so good?





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"The commies" on comedy central was a great show. A lot more entertaining than VGAs.


No, REALLY?!

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Anything with Andy Richter ends up good in my book and seeing him on stage with Triumph made it better.


Heh. What was Triumph's routine this time?

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Is Rodney Danergfield really sick or something, because he didn't look so good?



As Rodney Dangerfield himself would probably say, he ain't the governor of California.





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"Re(5):KOTOR" , posted Mon 8 Dec 18:50post reply


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they share code between themselves like i share saliva with iggy

...Ugh?
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I mean, WHAT!?





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"Re(6):KOTOR" , posted Mon 8 Dec 18:56post reply


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they share code between themselves like i share saliva with iggy
...Ugh?
...
I mean, WHAT!?



Heh. I was wondering when you were going to notice that.

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"Black Isle RIP" , posted Mon 8 Dec 21:25post reply


In other other news, Black Isle is no more. Interplay disbanded and erased their existance.

Jade Empire may come to PC, but expect a two year gap or something like that, same as it's going to be for Fable (which they haven't announced a PC port for either yet, but rumors suggest there will eventually be one.)

PS - Splinter Cell is one the worst games I've ever bought and Halo was only so-so.





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"The commies" on comedy central was a great show.


Correction, it was a "good" show. If it was great they would have tried to do one of the following:
-Went all out didn't take any of the awards/catagories seriously making them all silly unlike the ones in other award shows
-Had avoided taking the VGA's road and not made a show just for congradulating themsevles to kill time.

It was fun watching though, Triumph's joking on Gilbert was hysterical "What did they offer you? Fish sticks and a ride home?!" HA! Man, oh man that's classic!... I hope the DVD Exclusives Awards are this watchable! And there aren't any horrible stolen awards.

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