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| riskbreaker
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|  "Re(6):Samurai Spirits 0 PS2"
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Last I heard was that SNK USA confirmed it was coming. Delays dont really mean much since the kof pack was delayed a couple of times and its still coming out.
And whats that about not releasing it because it is an old sprite based shooter? they (SCEA) sure didnt stop midway, atari, and activision from releasing their classic gaming collections into ps2/ps1. It has to be something else.
Juan,
KoF receieved an offical press release confirming it's arrival in the U.S., however, Metal Slug 3 was never officially announced. I assume Activision was able to release its classic gaming collection since it retails for approximately $20.00.
The Quote below is from www.gamesarefun.com
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"SNK NEO GEO USA has clarified the situation a bit. Metal Slug 3 has indeed been denied by Sony, but they are fighting for it. In the past, other companies have had to make improvements to games to get them released, such as boosting graphics and sound, or even combining them with another game to have a collection release. This collection release is certainly a possibility, as Metal Slug 4 would have a chance at suffering the same fate as MS3 and SNK could choose to release them both at once in a few months."
[this message was edited by riskbreaker on Thu 4 Dec 11:57] |
| DarkZero 512th Post
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| "Re(7):Samurai Spirits 0 PS2" , posted Thu 4 Dec 13:15
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And whats that about not releasing it because it is an old sprite based shooter? they (SCEA) sure didnt stop midway, atari, and activision from releasing their classic gaming collections into ps2/ps1. It has to be something else.
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"SNK NEO GEO USA has clarified the situation a bit. Metal Slug 3 has indeed been denied by Sony, but they are fighting for it. In the past, other companies have had to make improvements to games to get them released, such as boosting graphics and sound, or even combining them with another game to have a collection release. This collection release is certainly a possibility, as Metal Slug 4 would have a chance at suffering the same fate as MS3 and SNK could choose to release them both at once in a few months."
One thing that I've heard repeated over and over, usually from official sources such as gaming magazines and interviews, is that SCEA has a long-standing rule which states that ports of old games (and, by extension, the NeoGeo, because it's a terribly old machine, even if games are still being made for it) must come in collections, not standalone games. This is one of their rarely seen "quality" requirements, which are there to make sure that all PS1 and PS2 games adhere to a minimum standard of quality so you don't get ripped off. Insert joke about Enter the Matrix and Tomb Raider: The Angel of Darkness here.
This is why KOF2k and 2k1 come in a double pack in the United States, even though they were released individually in Japan. They got away with KOF '99 in the PS1 days, but they no longer allow that sort of thing at all, which is you won't see Metal Slug 3 released as a budget PS1 game. In the future, the only American NeoGeo releases that we could possibly see are a Metal Slug Collection of 3 & 4, 4 & 5, or 3, 4, & 5, a KOF Collection of 2k2 and 2k3 (which means we won't see 2k2 until 2k3 gets a PS2 home release), and SS5 with... SS4? I have no idea.
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| iggy 2234th Post
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| "Re(2):Samurai Spirits 0 PS2" , posted Thu 4 Dec 14:10:
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I think I've some of these in stock. May I bring one tomorow ? I've heared they are delicious but must not be consumed whitout medical advice.
If I didn't know you better, I would think you try to give me some rohypnol-poisonous-watermelon-snake to have your ways with my defenseless body...
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| Gen 2300th Post
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| "Re(8):Samurai Spirits 0 PS2" , posted Thu 4 Dec 15:19
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And whats that about not releasing it because it is an old sprite based shooter? they (SCEA) sure didnt stop midway, atari, and activision from releasing their classic gaming collections into ps2/ps1. It has to be something else.
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"SNK NEO GEO USA has clarified the situation a bit. Metal Slug 3 has indeed been denied by Sony, but they are fighting for it. In the past, other companies have had to make improvements to games to get them released, such as boosting graphics and sound, or even combining them with another game to have a collection release. This collection release is certainly a possibility, as Metal Slug 4 would have a chance at suffering the same fate as MS3 and SNK could choose to release them both at once in a few months."
One thing that I've heard repeated over and over, usually from official sources such as gaming magazines and interviews, is that SCEA has a long-standing rule which states that ports of old games (and, by extension, the NeoGeo, because it's a terribly old machine, even if games are still being made for it) must come in collections, not standalone games. This is one of their rarely seen "quality" requirements, which are there to make sure that all PS1 and PS2 games adhere to a minimum standard of quality so you don't get ripped off. Insert joke about Enter the Matrix and Tomb Raider: The Angel of Darkness here.
This is why KOF2k and 2k1 come in a double pack in the United States, even though they were released individually in Japan. They got away with KOF '99 in the PS1 days, but they no longer allow that sort of thing at all, which is you won't see Metal Slug 3 released as a budget PS1 game. In the future, the only American NeoGeo releases that we could possibly see are a Metal Slug Collection of 3 & 4, 4 & 5, or 3, 4, & 5, a KOF Collection of 2k2 and 2k3 (which means we won't see 2k2 until 2k3 gets a PS2 home release), and SS5 with... SS4? I have no idea.
Eh! crazyness rules for only U.S. and not Japan region? Wierd decision from Sony, especially considering how many cheep games and old games have came out. Is this a newer rule? ....KoF2003 won't be an old game....\/\//\\////\/\/\//\
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| Hagen de Merak 586th Post
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| "Re(5):Re(10):what the?" , posted Fri 5 Dec 14:01
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yeah eb has it for preorder.
That's a joke, right?
yeah!I'm well aware of the fact that EB's web site (and, therefore, in-store computers) has it listed. However, I can tell you from working at EB for 4+ years that a game being on EB's list confirms nothing. Their home office people, in general, know less than nothing about games and the only times they've ever broken any sort of news is purely by accident or mistake.
ofcourse it proves nothing, hence my "yeah" and all the other nonsense. but i guess not many people would get it, anyways. And i agree that they know nothing about games, not even the people that work there, or at least the ones ive encoutered. "Do you have Disgaea in yet?" "No, but we will have Madden 5000 , how much will you be putting down on the preorder?"
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Sorry... I'm not trying to be an asshole. One could say after all these years that I'm a bitter, broken man when it comes to discussing EB and their complete and total ineptitude. MS3 very well may have been resubmitted and approved and EB's date might even be right (highly unlikely, given that it's the 15th of the month... a date EB frequently gives to games with no confirmed release date). My point is merely that EB's web site/computers shouldn't ever be used as an indication/confirmation of a game's status/release date.
haha, no problem.
But yeah, im well aware of their "ineptitude" as you put it(and my previous example). When MOTW was coming out for DC i went there to ask them when the exact date of release was. they brought in their "snk neo geo" expert to talk to me and said "oh thats a japanese game that will never see the light of day in america, but we do have KOF 99 if your interested" (which was actually kof98, and i already had it. The very next week it came out, but i opted to buy it elsewhere.
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| OYashiroForever 633th Post
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| "Re(6):Re(10):what the?" , posted Sat 6 Dec 18:12
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ofcourse it proves nothing, hence my "yeah" and all the other nonsense. but i guess not many people would get it, anyways. And i agree that they know nothing about games, not even the people that work there, or at least the ones ive encoutered. "Do you have Disgaea in yet?" "No, but we will have Madden 5000 , how much will you be putting down on the preorder?"
Well, the vast majority of EBs are staffed just like any other minimum-wage, slave-labor camp (read: mall store): hire the stupidest people possible, treat them like dirt, and then act completely surprised when they're inept and stealing from you.
However, there are a couple of EBs here and there that are staffed with knowledgeable personnel and folks who genuinely want to be there. My old store was one of those rare exceptions. We brought in our own systems and had import games on demo (usually for stuff that was coming out soon), pre-order campaigns for games people actually gave a shit about, unsanctioned in-store tournaments to promote new releases. Our customers knew how good they had it and hassled the poor shlubs who took over for us for months wondering where we were.
However, thanks to horrific middle management not understanding that our quality customer service and enthusiasm were what drove sales and not hocking whatever 2-bit piece of shit EB was marketing that very second, we all ended up quitting and left our keys locked inside with our resignation forms. A beautiful day, it was. Sorry, I'm rambling.
So yes, for the most part, I cringe every time I walk in to an EB these days at how embarassingly little the employees know and how bad EB's become since going public. However, don't blame the employees. It's not really their fault. To the majority of them, it's just another minimum-wage paycheck. Of course, the alternative are the employees that have an opinion on everything and have no problem letting you know. I guess it's a difficult choice to make between vapid teenagers and obnoxious teenagers who use arrogant elitism to cover up their low self esteem.
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