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Cain Highwind

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"Curious about SNK Music composer..." , posted Sun 23 Nov 22:55

I just found that both 2k2 and SvC Chaos were composed by a Mr. "Tate-Norio"

At first I thought he was just a new composer Playmore hired when they reassembled. But looking up the name I found this page:

http://www.geocities.jp/firework_factory/kof_data/s_trax/original.html

And aside for KoF94 and the NGP Kof Games, Tate-Norio is listed as composer for all of them.

If that's the case then how come we're still not getting any ASTs? Was Norio Just at the bottom of the group, or was the arranging done by a whole different group?

I'm just curious, and would like to know.

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Gen

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"Re(1):Curious about SNK Music composer..." , posted Sun 23 Nov 23:21

quote:
I just found that both 2k2 and SvC Chaos were composed by a Mr. "Tate-Norio"

At first I thought he was just a new composer Playmore hired when they reassembled. But looking up the name I found this page:

http://www.geocities.jp/firework_factory/kof_data/s_trax/original.html

And aside for KoF94 and the NGP Kof Games, Tate-Norio is listed as composer for all of them.

If that's the case then how come we're still not getting any ASTs? Was Norio Just at the bottom of the group, or was the arranging done by a whole different group?

I'm just curious, and would like to know.

I don't know, but I think that maybe those tracks were composed in the past by an SNK composer, at least a portion of them, and SNK used them later to fill the music in those games. So like Tate might have composed not fantastic tracks that were left at SNK after the business restructuring, and rather than spending money on more composing SNK stuck them in.
I attribute the lack of ASTs to the restructuring as well. In the future they will probably start producing ASTs again so long as they can profit from them.

Jigsaw
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"Re(2):Curious about SNK Music composer..." , posted Mon 24 Nov 04:44

Well, I don't think the ASTs have much to do with who's composing the music... There still needs to be a band who can actually play the music for there to be an AST, right? So even though SNK Playmore still have their old composer, they might not have possibility (for economical or other reasons) to hire the old band to record ASTs.

Sensenic

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"Re(3):Curious about SNK Music composer..." , posted Mon 24 Nov 12:52

quote:
Well, I don't think the ASTs have much to do with who's composing the music...

Aha. Knowing this, the question is not about the ASTs but:
If the same guy's been behind every year's KOF's music, how come did he go into the all-techno stuff when the first ones' soundtracks were so varied, both in genre and instrumentally?

You know, to my tastes even 2k2's music, which is good mainly because of the classics, gets really really repetitive

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Jigsaw
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"Re(4):Curious about SNK Music composer..." , posted Mon 24 Nov 13:51

Well, I'm just making assumptions. Either way, I wouldn't know.

aderack
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"Re(4):Curious about SNK Music composer..." , posted Tue 25 Nov 08:50

quote:
If the same guy's been behind every year's KOF's music, how come did he go into the all-techno stuff when the first ones' soundtracks were so varied, both in genre and instrumentally?

If you're talking about the '99-2000 scores, those are some pretty sophisitcated stuff. In some ways, they're technically the most well-written music in the series (whether or not one appreciates their style). In terms of structure and personality, I can believe they're by the same person, or the same team behind the earlier games.

I imagine there are two key reasons for the change in style. One is to illustrate the NESTS saga in a different way; the other is just for the sake of experimentation. No use recycling the same old power anthems forever. The change in plotlines provides a good practical excuse to try something new.

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Rid Hershel

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"Re(5):Curious about SNK Music composer..." , posted Tue 25 Nov 08:55

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The change in plotlines provides a good practical excuse to try something new.

Like with SRW going j-pop in Scramble Commander after many years of 80's metal, not all the changes are good...

Toxico

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"Re(4):Curious about SNK Music composer..." , posted Tue 25 Nov 09:00

quote:
Well, I don't think the ASTs have much to do with who's composing the music...
Aha. Knowing this, the question is not about the ASTs but:
If the same guy's been behind every year's KOF's music, how come did he go into the all-techno stuff when the first ones' soundtracks were so varied, both in genre and instrumentally?

I agree for the 2k part....
As I said earlier the main guy behind the music of KoF left after 97'; so that's one of the "why" they changed the music on the later installements.

Sensenic

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"Re(5):Curious about SNK Music composer..." , posted Tue 25 Nov 11:37:

quote:
Well, I don't think the ASTs have much to do with who's composing the music...
Aha. Knowing this, the question is not about the ASTs but:
If the same guy's been behind every year's KOF's music, how come did he go into the all-techno stuff when the first ones' soundtracks were so varied, both in genre and instrumentally?

If you're talking about the '99-2000 scores, those are some pretty sophisitcated stuff. In some ways, they're technically the most well-written music in the series (whether or not one appreciates their style). In terms of structure and personality, I can believe they're by the same person, or the same team behind the earlier games.

I imagine there are two key reasons for the change in style. One is to illustrate the NESTS saga in a different way; the other is just for the sake of experimentation. No use recycling the same old power anthems forever. The change in plotlines provides a good practical excuse to try something new.

I also think that's the reason why, but as RH pointed out, not all the changes have to be for good (always IMO, of course).
I must say, though, that I haven't heard much of 99-00, but I wasn't criticising the... euh... composing quality of the music (well, in the case of 2k1 I do

), just its non-variance (does that exist?) of genre. I like 2k2's music but it ends up tiring me while 98's and 97's don't.

PS: Yeah, I said '97 and I included the stages' "themes". They're ugly, yeah, but they vary more from each other.

quote:
I agree for the 2k part....
As I said earlier the main guy behind the music of KoF left after 97'; so that's one of the "why" they changed the music on the later installements.

So, what is it then? Has there been always the same guy or 2 different guys composing KOF's music?
I was asking why had it changed because Cain said it had been the sane guy all the time?

Nani?

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[this message was edited by Sensenic on Tue 25 Nov 11:40]

Toxico

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"Omaeka..." , posted Wed 26 Nov 05:45

quoteconfused:
So, what is it then? Has there been always the same guy or 2 different guys composing KOF's music?
I was asking why had it changed because Cain said it had been the sane guy all the time?

Nani?

Well, for what I understand there have been two or more. I read that very fact here in the cafe. So either Cain is mistaken or I'm drinking kerosene.

edit: I'm drinking kerosene... But dunno if that means that I'm wrong.

IkariDC
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"Re(1):Omaeka..." , posted Sat 29 Nov 03:54

From what I know, Tate Norio was part of the SNK Sound Team known as Shinsekai Gakkyoku Zatsugidan.

I don't know if the composers of the original games were part of this team, but they were the band that arranged the music for Neo Geo CD games and the Arranged Sound Trax CDs.

This team left SNK before KOF2001, releasing the CD "Shinsekai Gakkyoku Zatsugidan Final" a compilation of the best arranged tracks they did for games like KOF, Garou Densetsu and Samurai Spirits.

That's why the music from KOF2001 is that bad. For KOF2002, Tate Norio was hired again. But if they don't get back the SGZ team or they make a new band, we may not see new arranged CDs anymore...