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| Juke Joint Jezebel 2508th Post
 
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|  "Re(2):Mario Storyline Thread"
, posted Sun 23 Nov 01:50:
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I remember asking the same question back in Mario 3 and World, when the kids appeared...
They didn't made any comeback since then, right?
i don't think so 
when we were playing Double Dash, i was braindead and someone made the comment of unlockable characters. for some reason, i was determined that we'd be able to unlock the rest of his children as playable characters. too bad it's only Toad, his chick, Big Boo, and piranha face (i checked a faq. i don't think they've been unlocked yet)
maybe the kids will make a comeback. they were fun and exciting and intuitive
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Bowser son here is bowser Jr, this guy comes from the 1st Yoshi's island game for Super NES, where he was the last boss.
You can see him in Mario sunshine as well...
aah. thanks! that'd explain the presence of the Mario BABIES
hmm, that reminds me. who was the antagonist in Mario 64? Bowser?
War / Peace / Love / Grief
[this message was edited by Juke Joint Jezebel on Sun 23 Nov 01:54] |
| TiamatRoar 571th Post
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|  "Re(1):Mario Storyline Thread"
, posted Sun 23 Nov 06:52:
The baby bowser in Yoshi's Island IS Bowser, not his kid. Yoshi's island takes place in the past, which is why Mario and Luigi are just babies in that game. Baby Mario and Baby Luigi are supposed to be actually Mario and Luigi back when they were... well, babies, so having them in the same game as Mario and Luigi makes no sense. However, this nonsensicalness is acknowledged and done on purpose anyways since A) it's Mario, where the storyline is more whimsical and thus free to defy all reason, and B) even Nintendo acknowledges the sillyness since the instruction booklet (at least, the US one) says "Baby Mario and Mario in the same game!?" (though that's as far as it goes). Oh, and C) if there even IS a Mario canon, Mario Kart is could be a dream match
Baby Bowser (Bowser Jr.) is a baby that Bowser got starting since... Mario Sunshine I believe (although he was inspired by the Yoshi Island one, I imagine). He's Bowser's kid. Apparently, Mushroom kingdom turtles aren't very monagomous since I'm pretty sure the koopalings (of which Iggy was one) were Bowser's kids, too (and I also think were a lot cooler and more interesting than just a baby form of Bowser being his kid). Again, this baby Bowser is different from the one that appeared at the end of Yoshi's island. This one is Bowser's son, while the one at the end of Yoshi's island is the actual Bowser himself at the far past back when Bowser was still a baby.
Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
Until recently, that is. They cameo in Mario and Luigi: Super Star Saga (which, by the way, is an interesting take on the specifics of... er, Mario canon, such as how outsiders of the mushroom kingdom view Luigi and what Luigi actually DOES as a hero while Mario's out whomping Bowser. Yea, Luigi, watch that home front like a pro!). So I guess they're still alive after all. But Bowser Jr. is no where to be found in M&L:SSS. Hrm...
On a side note, Geno cameos, too, but then in the ending credits there's a huge honking disclaimer that he belongs to Squaresoft :P
End of Spoiler
As for where the Koopalings went, I was actually beginning to think that they were killed in Super Mario World (the text sure as heck seemed to indicate that). Didn't think so at first since... killing in a Mario game? But then they never appeared again anywhere in anything made by Nintendo to my knowledge. (Mario & Luigi: Super Star Saga spoilers below)
http://db.gamefaqs.com/coinop/arcade/file/street_fighter_plot.txt
[this message was edited by TiamatRoar on Sun 23 Nov 07:00] |
| TiamatRoar 572th Post
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| "Re(1):Re:Mario Storyline Thread" , posted Sun 23 Nov 16:14:
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The simplest solution would be that Bowser adopted the eight SMW kids.
Seven :P
Morton Koopa Jr. might be a joke or reference on some celebrity somewhere or something. Sorta like Ludwig Von Koopa's name being a joke on Beethoven. Not that I know what Morton Koopa Jr. would be a reference to, though. Come to think of it, I wonder if the rest of them are also named after musicians, given the whole "song" theme of the text after you beat each one in Super Mario World. But... it'll be pretty hard to figure that one out when some of them have rather generic names for the most part (Must be tons of people with names like Wendy and Larry, for example)
Oh yea, I completely forgot about Yoshi's Safari (though thinking back, guess I can't be blamed for that :P). I don't count Mario is Missing because that game wasn't made by Nintendo to my knowledge. ...or was that Mario's Hotel? Or both? I forget. One of them was like, made by Phillips or something when Nintendo loaned them various licenses (You must FEAR the ugliest scariest Link ever to exist!). Well, guess Nintendo just put them on hold for a while. I was glad to hear of them again in Mario & Luigi Super Star Saga, though.
On a random note, I wonder where Toadster (pretty sure that was his name), that mustached Toadstool, originally came from. First time I've seen him was in the Nintendo Power Mario comics, so I thought that he was a made-up character just for those comics. I think he appeared in Mario RPG. Seems like he's confirmed to exist in Mario "canon" (if there's such a thing) since he's in Mario and Luigi Super Star Saga, too, though.
http://db.gamefaqs.com/coinop/arcade/file/street_fighter_plot.txt
[this message was edited by TiamatRoar on Sun 23 Nov 16:19] |
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