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|  "kof 2003 thread - part 3"
, posted Sat 8 Nov 12:25
Hopefully we'll get solid info in the next 7 days or so. The 2nd test is on the 11th (this month), so let's try and keep our eyes open. Anyone remember where were the tests going to happen?
Anyway, what do we know?
Terry (MOTW) is in it, with Joe and Tizoc as his teamates. Andy is not in it.
Shingo, Long, Lin, Bao, Kensou are probably in it.
The sponsor of 2K3 is Japanese, and he's said to be the boss.
K49, Angel, Foxy are caught in legal hell, so they may not show up.
The main character is said to use wind.
6 new characters.
Characters from older SNK games will show up.
The system will be something new. So, don't bet on the game playing like regular 3-on-3. Discussion strictly on this matter can be done on this thread:
http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~mmcafe/forums/bbs/messages/18131.shtml
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| NARUTO 1881th Post
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| "Re(1):kof 2003 thread - part 3" , posted Mon 10 Nov 02:56
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Hopefully we'll get solid info in the next 7 days or so. The 2nd test is on the 11th (this month), so let's try and keep our eyes open. Anyone remember where were the tests going to happen?
Anyway, what do we know?
Terry (MOTW) is in it, with Joe and Tizoc as his teamates. Andy is not in it.
Shingo, Long, Lin, Bao, Kensou are probably in it.
The sponsor of 2K3 is Japanese, and he's said to be the boss.
K49, Angel, Foxy are caught in legal hell, so they may not show up.
The main character is said to use wind.
6 new characters.
Characters from older SNK games will show up.
The system will be something new. So, don't bet on the game playing like regular 3-on-3. Discussion strictly on this matter can be done on this thread:
http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~mmcafe/forums/bbs/messages/18131.shtml
just a question where did you got all this..."sure"??
the MOTV team OK, shingo blah, blah OK, LOf japanese sponsor??? well...Characters dead or missing?? like Rugalbernstein will say, characters are only dead when creator will so and they can be resurecded anytime!!!
as for the 6 new characters and the wind user...sound wierd IMO.
Anyway we knows now that the beta will take place the 17 so just one week to wait...
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| DarkZero 454th Post
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| "Re(2):kof 2003 thread - part 3" , posted Mon 10 Nov 03:24:
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the MOTV team OK, shingo blah, blah OK, LOf japanese sponsor??? well...Characters dead or missing?? like Rugalbernstein will say, characters are only dead when creator will so and they can be resurecded anytime!!!
as for the 6 new characters and the wind user...sound wierd IMO.
Anyway we knows now that the beta will take place the 17 so just one week to wait...
The MotW team and the Japanese sponsor were both taken from the Arcadia magazine article about KOF2k3.
The Shingo/Lin/Bao/Ron thing is a fan assumption based on the 2k1 endings, but KOF endings are only canon if the creators of the subsequent games choose to make them so, so whether or not that will actually be the plot of KOF2k3 is unknown.
The bit about the Eolith characters not appearing is mostly fan conjecture, but it has some merit. When two companies collaborate on a game, the copyrights regarding that product are usually a matter of contractual wording that none of us ever get to see. Usually when new characters are created by a third party for an installment of a company's franchise, the owner of the franchise owns the copyrights. In a case like Super Mario RPG, however, the new characters get stuck in Legal Hell and we never see them. Legal Hell is widely assumed to be the reason why we've never seen Geno, Mallow, or any of the other SMRPG characters in another game, and with Nintendo mining every single Mario game except SMRPG for Mario Kart: Double Dash characters, that assumption seems to be a valid one.
The information about the main character and the "six new characters" thing is, as far as I know, more fan conjecture and rumor-mongering.
The new system, 3-on-3, and characters from other SNK games showing up are all from either the Arcadia article on KOF2k3 or the GameSpot article, which I believe was the first to mention the bit about the characters from other SNK games.
If you're going to do an information roundup for 2k3, please at least state where the information is coming from. Some of what was posted in this thread is concrete, some of it is assumed, and some of it is just rumor, and I'd like to keep those three separate.
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| DarkZero 460th Post
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| "Re(1):NEW KOF 2003 RUMORS!!!!!!!" , posted Tue 11 Nov 05:11
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Courtesy of gamefaqs and HK magazine:
1) Story will be about the power of dragon and Assasins Team
2) There will be Assasins team (Lin + 2 new characters?)
3) Mid Boss will be Long, and Angel, MeiLee and K9999 will likely not make an appearance because of copyright issue
4) There will be a new main character who uses Wind as power
5) Jhun confirmed
6) Chizuru returns with a new look
7) There are 11 teams with 6 original new characters, not including Griffin from FF series
8) Bao will appear as 100%
9) Max Mode will remain
10) There will be no characters with Orochi power (this is not including Leona I presume)
Bah. I could've come up with all of that the day after KOF2k1 came out. The only thing in that list that isn't an assumption based on 2k1 and its endings is the wind user bit, which I believe has already been spread around by more reputable sources. In short, it doesn't pass the hoax test ("Does it add anything new or unexpected?") and it reads like some twelve year old kid's KOF fanfic.
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The last 2 didn't seems credible IMO, but the other sound right......
The fact that they "sound right" is the entire point. If someone told you that Griffon Mask would be in the game before Arcadia announced it, you would've laughed at them. You would've laughed at any prediction that was that outlandish. So hoaxes give you information that sounds believable by basing 90% of it on things you already know, like the Psycho Soldier Team's 2k1 ending.
Personally, and this is only a theory, I think that the information they've given to Arcadia and GameSpot seems to debunk the whole "Dragon Power" theory. KOF2k3 is supposed to feature characters from other SNK franchises instead of more new KOF characters. Going down the whole Lin/Long/Bao path just leads to more new characters and brand new KOF mythology, which is the exact opposite. I see KOF2k3 moving more toward an urban sort of setting to fit some of the newer fighting game characters on the NeoGeo like the MotW characters and maybe even the Matrimelee or Rage of the Dragons characters (GameSpot actually said "characters from other NeoGeo titles" or some such, rather than other SNKP titles), provided that they're not going to pull another Psycho Soldiers trick and give us updated versions of the characters from Last Blade or Samurai Spirits.
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| aderack
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| "Re(2):NEW KOF 2003 RUMORS!!!!!!!" , posted Tue 11 Nov 05:40
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Also, I highly doubt either of Kim's sons will be in it, as I doubt Kim would let them participate in KOF at such a young age.
I seem to recall reading that Kim wanted his sons to come with him back in '94 (when they would have been... six and five, respectively). They were more interested in watching TV, however.
Knowing Kim, that sounds plausible.
At the moment, the brothers should hypothetically be fifteen and fourteen. If not this year, then it certainly seems like they should be of a normal entry age in the following game.
This is, of course, if we ignore Bao as a precedent.
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| Cain Highwind 292th Post
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| "Re(3):kof 2003 thread - part 3" , posted Tue 11 Nov 12:12
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The bit about the Eolith characters not appearing is mostly fan conjecture, but it has some merit. When two companies collaborate on a game, the copyrights regarding that product are usually a matter of contractual wording that none of us ever get to see. Usually when new characters are created by a third party for an installment of a company's franchise, the owner of the franchise owns the copyrights. In a case like Super Mario RPG, however, the new characters get stuck in Legal Hell and we never see them. Legal Hell is widely assumed to be the reason why we've never seen Geno, Mallow, or any of the other SMRPG characters in another game, and with Nintendo mining every single Mario game except SMRPG for Mario Kart: Double Dash characters, that assumption seems to be a valid one.
True, don't forget SFEX characters. I always thought that would be the case with K9999, Igniz, Angel, and May Lee. Frankly, I wouldn't miss them at all if they weren't in 2k3. I like the idea that they're going to focurs on bringing "existing Neo characters" to the series. That Newly designed Chizuru really peaks my interest, I sure hope iut's true.
I'm honestly very excited about 2k3, after Mr. Kawasaki being the head honcho for SvC Chaos (it says so in the credits), perhaps he'll have a hand in 2k3, which really seems to go along with the "Existing SNK characters being put in" report
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| NARUTO 1886th Post
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| "Re(2):NEW KOF 2003 RUMORS!!!!!!!" , posted Wed 12 Nov 02:32
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What magazine do you know?
Nope! as I said I take it from a dude on gamefaqs who have take it from an HK magazine.
BTW just a little detail on the characters copyright thingy, so only K9999, Mailee, and Ignis are eolith right.
Long, misty, the NEST old dude, Lin's dude, And angel are SNK's right.
for was created for the 2000 endings, lin's dude where "imagined" by SNK for the 2001 (before the "died") so do misty and the Old one who is in fact a copy and paste of Sieger king in SS 2 (it is not a coinsidence!!)
As for angel SNK create her for the 2000 but didn't finished her at time, at this point she was named Speatz-nass and was an Angel (the one we know) and Mature mix.
You even can see her in the 2000 arcadia mook.
So except k9999 who is a Tetsuo copy, except Mai lee who was some kind of anime character copy and ignis a Kain and zero mix...eolith have never do something impresive.
at last I just add a little thing, if company knows those copyright problem, why did they let other use their own right...I mean SNK counldn't let the 2001 and 2002 doesn't exist, but they counld at last bring a little part of their team to create the cast and eolith only do the programation and nothing else.....
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| Alucard
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| "Re(3):NEW KOF 2003 RUMORS!!!!!!!" , posted Wed 12 Nov 02:47
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What magazine do you know?
Nope! as I said I take it from a dude on gamefaqs who have take it from an HK magazine.
BTW just a little detail on the characters copyright thingy, so only K9999, Mailee, and Ignis are eolith right.
Long, misty, the NEST old dude, Lin's dude, And angel are SNK's right.
for was created for the 2000 endings, lin's dude where "imagined" by SNK for the 2001 (before the "died") so do misty and the Old one who is in fact a copy and paste of Sieger king in SS 2 (it is not a coinsidence!!)
As for angel SNK create her for the 2000 but didn't finished her at time, at this point she was named Speatz-nass and was an Angel (the one we know) and Mature mix.
You even can see her in the 2000 arcadia mook.
So except k9999 who is a Tetsuo copy, except Mai lee who was some kind of anime character copy and ignis a Kain and zero mix...eolith have never do something impresive.
at last I just add a little thing, if company knows those copyright problem, why did they let other use their own right...I mean SNK counldn't let the 2001 and 2002 doesn't exist, but they counld at last bring a little part of their team to create the cast and eolith only do the programation and nothing else.....
Hello,
I do not understand this problem of copyright : I believed Eolith & Playmore were developers/editors, and gained all SNK's legacy ?
so why Playmore can't use K9999 ? because he's property of Eolith, and thus not Playmore ?
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| DKW
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| "guarded optimism" , posted Wed 12 Nov 02:49
aderack - I seriously doubt that SNK ever intended Chizuru to go the completely-oppressed-by-duty-and-no-longer-relevant-after-the-one-storyline route...which, I know, is a bit irnoic considering how they've gleefully resigned countless other characters to that fate. She's slugging it out side-by-side with her fellow female warriors in '97, and she even found some motivation for '98 as well (yes, yes, Dream Match blah blah, but you still need some motivation to fight, right?). It's clear that, for whatever reason, she needs the tournament. Maybe it didn't start out like that, but KOF has a way of drawing people in (nb. the Special Team as well). I don't have any problem with whatever role she has in '03.
Besides, with "old" characters and "dumb joke characters" being axed left and right, SOMEONE'S gotta fill the void.
(And she's incredibly beautiful and well dressed. What more could you want?  )
all - In all, I think this has the potential to be good. Playmore at least has the good sense to continue with an established storyline and actually develop some of the newer blood instead of running all over the place. MOTW characters is not an issue at all, as I've already stated, since we don't have a definite year for it, and most of them are old enough by now anyway. (If you want to bring up age issues, you can start with Athena STILL wearing a flarkin' sailor suit that's about three sizes too small now.  ) The switch back to 3-member teams was a good move, as 4 was just a bit too unwieldly. Personally, I'd prefer free select from here on out and individual endings for everyone, but eh, can't have 'em all.
And for all the Bao haters out there, I'm sorry, but you're just gonna have to get used to it. Hey, I think it sucks that Eiji Kisaragi never got a chance for Orochi knows what reason...didn't stop me from playing the later installments. At least you won't have to deal with him again after this Dragon bit is over.
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| NARUTO 1889th Post
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| "Re(1):guarded optimism" , posted Wed 12 Nov 02:58
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aderack - I seriously doubt that SNK ever intended Chizuru to go the completely-oppressed-by-duty-and-no-longer-relevant-after-the-one-storyline route...which, I know, is a bit irnoic considering how they've gleefully resigned countless other characters to that fate. She's slugging it out side-by-side with her fellow female warriors in '97, and she even found some motivation for '98 as well (yes, yes, Dream Match blah blah, but you still need some motivation to fight, right?). It's clear that, for whatever reason, she needs the tournament. Maybe it didn't start out like that, but KOF has a way of drawing people in (nb. the Special Team as well). I don't have any problem with whatever role she has in '03.
Besides, with "old" characters and "dumb joke characters" being axed left and right, SOMEONE'S gotta fill the void.
(And she's incredibly beautiful and well dressed. What more could you want? )
Totaly agree, and IMO I think that she can be involved in any story with mistyc/hidden/hellish Power...
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all - In all, I think this has the potential to be good. Playmore at least has the good sense to continue with an established storyline and actually develop some of the newer blood instead of running all over the place. MOTW characters is not an issue at all, as I've already stated, since we don't have a definite year for it, and most of them are old enough by now anyway. (If you want to bring up age issues, you can start with Athena STILL wearing a flarkin' sailor suit that's about three sizes too small now. ) The switch back to 3-member teams was a good move, as 4 was just a bit too unwieldly. Personally, I'd prefer free select from here on out and individual endings for everyone, but eh, can't have 'em all.
Well...
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And for all the Bao haters out there, I'm sorry, but you're just gonna have to get used to it. Hey, I think it sucks that Eiji Kisaragi never got a chance for Orochi knows what reason...didn't stop me from playing the later installments. At least you won't have to deal with him again after this Dragon bit is over.
True (nod) IMO I even wish to see him in some kind of Orochi like boss...
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| DarkZero 466th Post
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| "Re(3):guarded optimism" , posted Wed 12 Nov 07:08
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There is no legal matter concerning the Eolith characters, just like there is no legal matter concerning the SFEX characters. It's just the parent companies' choice as to wether or not they wish to use them, which, if plot and or fan interest is any indication, they don't plan on doing.
Thank you, sir, for this blind assertion with absolutely no evidence to back it up. Your unbridled confidence in your own gut feelings was more than enough to convince me! And I especially liked the way that it so masterfully refuted the evidence and numerous precedents that have been brought up by others. Simply amazing!
Sarcasm aside, I think it's worth noting that May Lee was in Kim's SvC ending. If there was a copyright problem there, May Lee wouldn't have appeared. And if May Lee doesn't cause a problem, then I don't see why K9999, Angel, or any of the other original 2k1 characters couldn't appear in a future game.
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Nope! as I said I take it from a dude on gamefaqs who have take it from an HK magazine.
We're actually speculating on what some dude on GameFAQs claims was in a Hong Kong magazine. A Hong Kong magazine that no one else seems to have picked up. A Hong Kong magazine which is unnamed. And all of the information sounds identical to the sort of rumor-mongering that we've been listening to for roughly two years now, ever since some fanboy saw the Psycho Soldiers ending and decided to spew bullshi--- errr... that is, "extrapolite upon" that ending.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the bottom of the barrel. Witness with awe and pity what can happen when a human being is forced to wait the unfathomable length of a week without any information on their favorite new game. Stand in pure shock as they begin to believe "some dude at GameFAQs" who's got the "inside scoop" because they're just that desperate and they need their fix. Watch with infinite horror as the posts get longer, but their actual content diminishes into nothing more than angry, self-referential sarcasm and brow-beating.
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| Toxico 3271th Post
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|  "Garou..."
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MOTW characters is not an issue at all, as I've already stated, since we don't have a definite year for it, and most of them are old enough by now anyway.
Well, due to Terry's Bio Fatal Fury 1 has a designated date (his father died when terry was 10 or so, right?). Fatal Fury 2 takes place a fixed amount of time after FF1 (one year); Fatal Fury 3 has a fixed time after Fatal Fury 2 (three years, I believe) and FFRB takes place after a fixed time period as well (6 months)...
Lately Garou also takes place a fixed time period after Geese's death in FFRB... 8 years? 10 years?? I always get messed up with ther dates; don't even know my own age unless I check my birth certificate ¬_¬
In reality, the result is the same but I invite you not to say "playmore hasn't a decisive date on Geese's death"; instead I invite you to say "KoF doesn't give a damn about other stories continuity".
And too, the result will be the same... If I don't make sense remember that I haven't eaten in days...
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| DarkZero 468th Post
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| "Re(2):Garou..." , posted Wed 12 Nov 08:22
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Thank you, sir, for this blind assertion with absolutely no evidence to back it up. Your unbridled confidence in your own gut feelings was more than enough to convince me! And I especially liked the way that it so masterfully refuted the evidence and numerous precedents that have been brought up by others. Simply amazing!
In fact, for what in this case (a company creating characters for a game that isn't theirs) the rights fall upon the company who provided the license.
My harsh reaction to Trufenix was kind of beside the point. My real opinion was what I stated in my original post in this thread, which was that while the owner of the franchise usually gains the copyrights for whatever characters an outside company has created for their franchise, there have been a couple of examples where it seems to have worked the other way. It seems, at least to me, that who owns the copyright on these characters is really up in the air until we see them in a new game, so I find people that just blindly say that "There is no legal matter" with absolutely no justification are, at the very least, incredibly presumptuous. At worst, just completely arrogant and condescending.
And while I don't think that SNK would be stupid enough to give up the copyrights on the new characters, lots of weird things happen when a company declares bankrupty and announces that it's closing its doors, so they might have been poor enough to do it, rather than stupid enough. After all, if SNK were operating under ideal circumstances at the time, they wouldn't have been licensing the franchise to Eolith anyway. They would've just made KOF2k1 and 2k2 themselves.
All I'm saying is that it's just not concrete enough to blindly say, "This is how it is". There are precedents in your direction, but there are also precedents in the other direction, so we'll just have to see what happens. I'm betting that it's probably going to go your way, though, and that SNKP won't be hindered by any copyright issues.
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| Sesq
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| "Re(2):Garou..." , posted Wed 12 Nov 11:33
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Look at Alfred, he was createwd by other company but the rights fell to SNK and they latter used him for one of their games (yeah, I know it's different but can still apply).
Is that true? From which game did he come? As far as the SF EX games are concerned, I assume the original characters were property of Arika since it's not "real" SF continuity and some of the characters appeared in another Arika game (the name of which eludes me).
Concerning the rumors, there is nothing to back any of them up at all. Remember, there were tons of rumors flying before 2002 came out, and most of them were without merit. All we know at this point is the teams are 3 on 3, Terry, Joe, and Griffon are on a team, Andy and Hokutomaru aren't in it, and the sponsor is Japanese. The End. Everything else is hearsay. Dan Hibiki could be in it, for all we know. I follow the rumors because it's fun to postulate about the game, but I'm starting to get tired of it, and I wish Playmore would hurry up and at least announce another team tomorrow.
It's my belief that we've already seen some of the new 2K3 characters in the TGS trailer for KOF3D, but I have no proof to back it up.
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| iggy 2016th Post
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| "AASNK crystal power, make up!" , posted Wed 12 Nov 12:10
By the way... that evil book of the same color as hell or the shoes that makes you dance to death, I mean All About SNK, informs me (you, us) that Geese dies in Real Bout Garô Densetsu, in which he is 42. He was born in 1953. Then Mark of the Wolves happens 10 years after Geese's death... Oh my god, forty two plus... I'm not gonna make it.
And yes, I know, Geese is in KOF 96, but as I think I said earlier, Garô and AoF (and Buriki One) happen in one universe and KOF in an other, other universe in which participate to a fighting tournament even one time insures eternal youth.
Then, unfortunately, Cool Cool toon happens in again another universe.
Or... does it?
(hey, they said they were bringing in characters from other games, right?)
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| Ishmael 1028th Post
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| "Re(1):AASNK crystal power, make up!" , posted Wed 12 Nov 17:06
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By the way... that evil book of the same color as hell or the shoes that makes you dance to death, I mean All About SNK, informs me (you, us) that Geese dies in Real Bout Garô Densetsu, in which he is 42. He was born in 1953. Then Mark of the Wolves happens 10 years after Geese's death... Oh my god, forty two plus... I'm not gonna make it.
And yes, I know, Geese is in KOF 96, but as I think I said earlier, Garô and AoF (and Buriki One) happen in one universe and KOF in an other, other universe in which participate to a fighting tournament even one time insures eternal youth.
Then, unfortunately, Cool Cool toon happens in again another universe.
Or... does it?
(hey, they said they were bringing in characters from other games, right?)
So the SNK games all happen in their own little worlds except for when they don't? I guess that's the only way to make things work, otherwise you would have to figure out how to explain things like what KoF tournament is taking place in RBFF, how Geese is still out being a pest in KoFEX, how Chizuru managed to punch out a four year old love child, how... yeesh, I need to go lay down.
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| Gen 2185th Post
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| "Re(2):AASNK crystal power, make up!" , posted Wed 12 Nov 18:19:
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By the way... that evil book of the same color as hell or the shoes that makes you dance to death, I mean All About SNK, informs me (you, us) that Geese dies in Real Bout Garô Densetsu, in which he is 42. He was born in 1953. Then Mark of the Wolves happens 10 years after Geese's death... Oh my god, forty two plus... I'm not gonna make it.
And yes, I know, Geese is in KOF 96, but as I think I said earlier, Garô and AoF (and Buriki One) happen in one universe and KOF in an other, other universe in which participate to a fighting tournament even one time insures eternal youth.
Then, unfortunately, Cool Cool toon happens in again another universe.
Or... does it?
(hey, they said they were bringing in characters from other games, right?)
So the SNK games all happen in their own little worlds except for when they don't? I guess that's the only way to make things work, otherwise you would have to figure out how to explain things like what KoF tournament is taking place in RBFF, how Geese is still out being a pest in KoFEX, how Chizuru managed to punch out a four year old love child, how... yeesh, I need to go lay down.
I think that Fatal Fury/Real Bout/Garou, Art of Fighting, Ikari Warriors, Athena, and King of Fighters all take place within the same fictional universe.
"All About SNK, informs me (you, us) that Geese dies in Real Bout Garô Densetsu, in which he is 42. He was born in 1953. Then Mark of the Wolves happens 10 years after Geese's death... Oh my god, forty two plus... I'm not gonna make it.
And yes, I know, Geese is in KOF 96"
What month was Geese born? If Geese was born in like 1953 December, then he would turn 42 in 1995 December. Say that KOF96 takes place in June. Geese could still be 42 in KOF96 June. His "death" could take place a couple months later before he turns 43. KoF doesn't have a specific month it occurs in (though I tend to assume it occurs in the present, in the month the arcade game is released).
The Geese in KOF could also be Shadow Geese, or the dead Geese could also be Shadow Geese and the real on still alive.
Does the book say specifically that Garou MOTW takes place after Geese's death? I know it takes place 10 years after something. The intro shows Geese falling off the building. So it is only implied to me that it takes place after Geese's death. It could also take place 10 years after the games release, which was like 1999 so it would take place in 2009. Or 10 years after the previous Garou Densetsu game, I don't know the exact year on that.
If Geese dies in 1995 or more likely 1996, and Garou MOTW takes place 10 years later, then it happens in 2005/6. So Terry will not be changing his clothes between KOF2003-2005/6.
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| "it never fails. . ." , posted Thu 13 Nov 06:22
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Thank you, sir, for this blind assertion with absolutely no evidence to back it up. Your unbridled confidence in your own gut feelings was more than enough to convince me! And I especially liked the way that it so masterfully refuted the evidence and numerous precedents that have been brought up by others. Simply amazing!
You however are missing the important fact that you have no logical reason to believe otherwise.
But, if you "demand" proof, then play through King of Fighters 2k1, and 2k2,and tell me wherein it says that K9999, May Lee, Angel, etc. . . are used with "Rights" or "Permission" or "Licenced by". They are not present. In fact, in both the beginning of the game and the end of the game, there are MASSIVE trademark notices care of SNK Playmore, not Eolith.
Now, lets look at any game where characters "are" used with permission, like say Spawn / Link in SC2 or any of the marvel characters in any of the capcom crossovers. Notice the giant disclaimers all over the game indicating such? How about CvS? Exactly.
It is this same rationale that allows publishers (who own the trademarking) to shift titles to other developers with no remorse (IE: Tenchu, Star Fox, the next Tomb Raider).
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