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| Juke Joint Jezebel 2431th Post
 
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|  "okay!"
, posted Thu 30 Oct 11:49
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OH BOY!! LET ME SET MY VCR
How the fuck did CSI get so popular?
Grissom's quote are supposed to sound deep and make him seem educated, but come off as someone randomly pulling pages from a Quote a Day dictionary. The Crime Scene Investagating is completely unrealistic (they've got computer systems more advanced then NASA that only require a few key strokes to do any work and finishs task in seconds.)
Plus you can always count on getting a girtty look into the dark, seedy underworld of something that probably doesn't have a dark, seedy underworld. (I mean, sure Furries wack off to cartoons and Disney on Ice, but I don't think there's a trend of murders connected to them, much like I'm sure Battlebots and Stand-Up comedy aren't so competive murder is the only answer.)
Yet it's the biggest thing since Sliced Jesus Bread.
Are people really that lazy they can't change the channel after survivor? or is whatever NBC is airring that much worse?
that was charming and unexpected!
well, is there anyone here who doesn't have a personal vendetta against this horrible, malevolent tv show? it's obviously written and co-starred by rapists, murderers, and Catholic priests, but if you hang on long enough, you'll be able to witness some of the greatest TV-14 furry sex of your life! i'm probably going to miss it since i have class, so someone please tune in
"They who came up for judgment but were not judged have turned into sticks and filled the earth. The Master has departed and the earth has become a grave of rotten sticks ..." -- Man From Hell quoting the textbook
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| Radish 1842th Post
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|  "Re(1):okay!"
, posted Thu 30 Oct 13:39
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OH BOY!! LET ME SET MY VCR
How the fuck did CSI get so popular?
Grissom's quote are supposed to sound deep and make him seem educated, but come off as someone randomly pulling pages from a Quote a Day dictionary. The Crime Scene Investagating is completely unrealistic (they've got computer systems more advanced then NASA that only require a few key strokes to do any work and finishs task in seconds.)
Plus you can always count on getting a girtty look into the dark, seedy underworld of something that probably doesn't have a dark, seedy underworld. (I mean, sure Furries wack off to cartoons and Disney on Ice, but I don't think there's a trend of murders connected to them, much like I'm sure Battlebots and Stand-Up comedy aren't so competive murder is the only answer.)
Yet it's the biggest thing since Sliced Jesus Bread.
Are people really that lazy they can't change the channel after survivor? or is whatever NBC is airring that much worse?
that was charming and unexpected!
well, is there anyone here who doesn't have a personal vendetta against this horrible, malevolent tv show? it's obviously written and co-starred by rapists, murderers, and Catholic priests, but if you hang on long enough, you'll be able to witness some of the greatest TV-14 furry sex of your life! i'm probably going to miss it since i have class, so someone please tune in
I heard the advertisement for this on the radio and it sounds hilarious. I find it both amusing and scary that furries have become famous enough to become a plot point on a major tv show.
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| DarkZero 428th Post
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| "Re(1):CSI is dumb!" , posted Thu 30 Oct 14:02
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How the fuck did CSI get so popular?
Grissom's quote are supposed to sound deep and make him seem educated, but come off as someone randomly pulling pages from a Quote a Day dictionary. The Crime Scene Investagating is completely unrealistic (they've got computer systems more advanced then NASA that only require a few key strokes to do any work and finishs task in seconds.)
Plus you can always count on getting a girtty look into the dark, seedy underworld of something that probably doesn't have a dark, seedy underworld. (I mean, sure Furries wack off to cartoons and Disney on Ice, but I don't think there's a trend of murders connected to them, much like I'm sure Battlebots and Stand-Up comedy aren't so competive murder is the only answer.)
Actually, I think I watch the show for completely different reasons than the ones you're assuming. I watch the show because it's so odd and unrealistic. I'm sick of characters that are supposed to be real NYPD detectives busting criminal after criminal that either A) killed somebody because they were boning his wife, B) killed his wife 'cause she was boning someone, or C) killed her for the insurance money. I like seeing really oddball characters like Grissom, who strikes me as more crazy than intelligent, going after villains that are almost as off-the-wall as the Joker or Two-Face. Detective shows are a lot more interesting when they're dealing with a fitness queen that's eating pureed hearts or a magician that's setting people on fire onstage.
And also, because I don't see it as realistic, I don't see it as "getting a girtty look into the dark, seedy underworld of something". I see it as a crime story that's finally set somewhere other than a crackhouse, a high-rise apartment, a concert, or Harlem. Maybe I just watched too many Law & Order episodes as a kid, but it's gotten sort of boring.
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| Dr Baghead 2599th Post
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| "Re(2):CSI is dumb!" , posted Thu 30 Oct 18:01
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Actually, I think I watch the show for completely different reasons than the ones you're assuming. I watch the show because it's so odd and unrealistic. I'm sick of characters that are supposed to be real NYPD detectives busting criminal after criminal that either A) killed somebody because they were boning his wife, B) killed his wife 'cause she was boning someone, or C) killed her for the insurance money. I like seeing really oddball characters like Grissom, who strikes me as more crazy than intelligent, going after villains that are almost as off-the-wall as the Joker or Two-Face. Detective shows are a lot more interesting when they're dealing with a fitness queen that's eating pureed hearts or a magician that's setting people on fire onstage.
And also, because I don't see it as realistic, I don't see it as "getting a girtty look into the dark, seedy underworld of something". I see it as a crime story that's finally set somewhere other than a crackhouse, a high-rise apartment, a concert, or Harlem. Maybe I just watched too many Law & Order episodes as a kid, but it's gotten sort of boring.
I'm going to accept what you're saying as valid. I can see someone *enjoy* the show for the reasons I hate it.
But all the reviews and press releases like to pretend it IS a realistic, dark show. So there has to be at least 2 or 3 people out there who take it seriously.
Maybe CBS should call it's Thursday night line-up "Watchin' Ironicly Fun-Zone"
"First up Survivor! You don't really care who wins or even like the show, but you're watching so you can make fun of it! Then America's Number 1 Crime-Drama, CSI! Marvel at Grissom's moronic quotes, wonder at the inapporiate theme song, but don't feel stupid since you're not taking as a "serious" crime show... then EVERYBODY LOVES RAMEN MINI-A-THON and the Late Show!"
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| DarkZero 432th Post
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| "Re(3):CSI" , posted Thu 30 Oct 23:06
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OK, at first, I thought furries were supposed to be people referring to cat girls and what not, but apparently I'm wrong. So can someone inform me what exactly furries are, please?
Furries are people that like anthropomorphic animals in a sexual way, with no real distinction between drawn animal-people or people in costumes. What you would normally think of as "catgirls" don't really count, though. I usually think of the term "catgirls" as being like Playboy bunnies: girls wearing ears, a bikini with fur on it, etc., but still obviously a girl. Furries are really only into people/characters that are completely animal-people with no human skin or overtly human features at all, so some girl with a cat ear headband on shouldn't count.
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| Gen 2116th Post
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| "Re(2):CSI is dumb!" , posted Fri 31 Oct 00:11:
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How the fuck did CSI get so popular?
Grissom's quote are supposed to sound deep and make him seem educated, but come off as someone randomly pulling pages from a Quote a Day dictionary. The Crime Scene Investagating is completely unrealistic (they've got computer systems more advanced then NASA that only require a few key strokes to do any work and finishs task in seconds.)
Plus you can always count on getting a girtty look into the dark, seedy underworld of something that probably doesn't have a dark, seedy underworld. (I mean, sure Furries wack off to cartoons and Disney on Ice, but I don't think there's a trend of murders connected to them, much like I'm sure Battlebots and Stand-Up comedy aren't so competive murder is the only answer.)
Actually, I think I watch the show for completely different reasons than the ones you're assuming. I watch the show because it's so odd and unrealistic. I'm sick of characters that are supposed to be real NYPD detectives busting criminal after criminal that either A) killed somebody because they were boning his wife, B) killed his wife 'cause she was boning someone, or C) killed her for the insurance money. I like seeing really oddball characters like Grissom, who strikes me as more crazy than intelligent, going after villains that are almost as off-the-wall as the Joker or Two-Face. Detective shows are a lot more interesting when they're dealing with a fitness queen that's eating pureed hearts or a magician that's setting people on fire onstage.
And also, because I don't see it as realistic, I don't see it as "getting a girtty look into the dark, seedy underworld of something". I see it as a crime story that's finally set somewhere other than a crackhouse, a high-rise apartment, a concert, or Harlem. Maybe I just watched too many Law & Order episodes as a kid, but it's gotten sort of boring.
I didn't know this show was so weird. I thought it was just another in a decade plus procession of NYPD Blue type shows.
A few years ago I got invited to go to an Japanese animation club where lots of the guys were into furry stuff. Though that sounded somewhat creepy I might have gone to check it out but I wasn't able to go.
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| OmegaDog 818th Post
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| "No concrete definition of the word" , posted Fri 31 Oct 02:32:
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OK, at first, I thought furries were supposed to be people referring to cat girls and what not, but apparently I'm wrong. So can someone inform me what exactly furries are, please?
There is no exact definition for what furries are, when referring to someone in the fandom (as opposed to the anthropomorphic creature designs). Main reason -- the furries themselves don't even agree on what the hell the term "furry" means.
It'd be better to identify at least some of the subsets of the fandom.
A lot of those in the furry fandom are (in vain) pushing for it to be known for its clean aspects -- ranging from simple anthropomorphics fan (someone subscribing to a furry publication or observing art/situations featuring anthropomorphic creatures for simple enjoyment*), to fursuiter (someone who, being an anthropomorphics fan, may enjoy dressing up in costumes of anthropomorphic characters, even designing and creating them, to show off and entertain people and generally be a ham, and also quite possibly make a positive contribution to society -- i.e. cheering up in hospital visits and the like* ), or artist (someone who draws anthropomorphic creatures simply out of the enjoyment of drawing the creatures*).
[ * It's really important to note that both the name and definition of "furry" don't work both ways. Though a furry artist/costumer/whatever is a person that may draw/design/perform-as/enjoy anthropomorphic creatures, a person that may draw/design/perform-as/enjoy anthropomorphic creatures may not be associated (or, given its negative connotations, may wish not to associate) with the furry fandom. ]
Then, you've also got the public deviants who, as described by DarkZero and Undead Fred and as illustrated by the show, are into the fandom because one or more of the described aspects of the fandom somehow turn them on sexually. There are debates going on as to whether or not they make up a significant portion of the fandom or are a small minority -- but either way, the sexual deviants of the fandom tend to be loud enough that they've succeeded in making the fandom known for said sexual deviancy.
Flame wars between the cleaner members of the fandom and the deviants normally have the deviants explaining how the cleaner members are "oppressing" them, and generally use the "be more acceptable of alternate lifestyles" speech against the cleaner members -- which leads to the cleaner members flaming how such "acceptance" is driving the fandom down the hole.
There's also the public furry "lifestylers." For the most part, these are people who have concluded, one way or another, that they're connected spiritually to one or more species of non-human animal (whether a totemic belief, or whether they actually believe they're non-human animals trapped in a human body), and must find some way to, as illustrated by the show, "embrace the animal within." How? By doing the same things that the cleaner/saner fans (or even the sexual deviants) would do, only for the different internal purpose of fulfilling that internal desire to "become closer" to "their animal" (better defined as an ideal of an animal characterization that they somehow aspire to reach).
[Here's another fine line to walk that's still really important to note: a person that uses a particular species as an identification theme, or otherwise artistic theme, doesn't necessarily qualify as a furry lifestyler. Persons who use certain species as such themes do not necessarily have an internal desire to "become closer" to said species.]
Again, flame wars have erupted between the cleaner/saner fans and the lifestylers as to the definition of furry, each trying to claim their own motivations in the prevailing definition. More of the same "acceptance of alternate lifestyle" flames and "driving the fandom down the hole" flames here.
So what's the definition of "furry"? I don't know -- and, really, neither does anyone else. What we do know is that most people tend to look at the term "furry" in a negative light, and hence the prevailing connotation of "furry" is pretty horrid, despite the efforts of the cleaner/saner members of the fandom to try to reverse that (which, again, have all pretty much been in vain).
Okay -- this post has gone on long enough. Main point -- no concrete definition, as long as the members of the fandom are debating amongst themselves the definition of the term. Anyone attempting to extend the debate on what's the right definition of "furry" here on this board will be referred to Cthulhu.
EDIT: ... actually, damn -- it's kind of a downer to realize I just wrote a whole hell of a lot, just to communicate the fact that we really can't make a conclusion. ("My conclusion? What conclusion?!") I hope it was still, in one way or another, informative.
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| DarkZero 437th Post
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| "Re(4):CSI" , posted Fri 31 Oct 20:42:
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Do real investagators also engage horrible diaolog, often times so bad it's like they're reading from a fanfic.
"So wait a minute are you saying that blood can stain carpeting?"
"Yes, blood can stain carpeting if it sets long enough"
"How Long?"
"I don't know maybe an hour or two hours or maybe longer?"
That's just the nature of a show that actually wants to explain something to you instead of throwing meaningless technobabble at you with no context. You'll find the same sort of dialogue in Hikaru No Go and Initial D, because that's just the burden that TV shows have to deal with when they try to convey real information to you in the space of a half hour or an hour. They aren't able to digress for six paragraphs or so the way some books do and they also can't include an appendix to the show the way George Orwell did with the Newspeak explanation in 1984, so they have to make the dialogue a little unnatural to suit that purpose.
You'll find the same sort of unnatural dialogue in lots of other TV shows, but it usually comes in forms that you're more used to. Like sci-fi shows where the inhabitant of a new planet will suddenly leap into a detailed explanation of his planet's geopolitical situation for absolutely no reason. It's completely unnatural, but your mind has just learned to accept the fact that the show doesn't have enough time for the main characters to slowly learn information over, say, a two hour dinner conversation or a three day stay at someone's home like real people do in the real world. And cop shows are the same way, too. Most criminal prosecutions can take years, with the cops slowly building a case and lawyers prosecuting the case with stretches of weeks or months between court dates, all while handling a dozen or so other cases. Because it would be sort of ridiculous for each case to take years and for time to jump back and forth between each episode, they condense every case to just a few weeks' time and pretend that the cops and lawyers on the show have nothing else to do but handle that one case. It's absolutely ridiculous, but we sort of subconsciously accept that those are the limitations of the genre, just like we accept the way that movies speed through long, epic stories in just the space of two hours and most plot-heavy anime assume that the viewer will infer a couple of plot points and resolutions because 22 minutes isn't enough time to spell out every little thing.
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