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| dr baghead 2588th Post
 
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|  "Re(1):Stefan....bleh."
, posted Sun 26 Oct 10:52
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Stefan really pisses me off.
You're one of the smart ones, Wolf.
(babbling in responce to other post)
I used to read Stefan's page just for shits and giggles, it started out as an interesting look into the mind of a man on brink of madness, We all laughed when he wrote the following:
-a background story on Cammy using various non-cannon sources
-various incorrect facts (that the "Maximum Spider" started out as Cammy's attack, Mae Lee's belt being a yin-yang, Norimaru being made in a fan contest, misspelling of the KoF2k1 names, et.c)
-Japanese "facts" that show a limited knowledge of the culture
-that he thinks he has insider info on games most of his readers have already played (says crap like "Rock Howard is from Mark of the Wolf... a game most of you have probably never heard of in the US")
-cosplay is a valid gauage of a character's popularity.
However he's gone from a sad little man who holds too much worth in his crummy opinions to full fledged card carrying psycho.
So much so if he does a rant about ANYTHING now days you know the last paragraph will be about Cammy.
Why does Chun-Li suck? Because she hasn't changed as much as Cammy OR have as interesting a background (in his opinion, but since you visit HIS site you must agree so he's right!)
Why does Sakura suck? Her mentor isn't Cammy!
Why do Ryu and Ken suck? Because they have so many clones! (but of course if all 12 dolls became playable in one game he'd call if a tour-de-force of brillant casting once he was done fucking his cardboard cutout of Cammy)
speaking of which, he considers Dan a Shoto-clone, that being one of my personal pet peeves it shows how little he actual knows.
How could SF3/4, SvC:Choas, Capcom Fighting All-Stars, Darkstalkers, Resident Evil, Megaman, Maxio/Ghouls and Ghost, Devil May Cry, or any other Capcom game be improved?
Just add Cammy! And here's a story idea for such that makes a 13 year old girl's Cloud/Squall H-Fanfic look like a modern day masterpiece!
Final bit of rambly:
Stefan swears up and down an 'inside source' told him Cammy wasn't in SFA because she was too popular and they wanted people to only like Ryu, Ken, and Chun-Li.
It seems to me whoever said that said it to shut him up (c'mon, you know he had been pestering them with ideas and crap storylines) but it made me think of something.
If Capcom does 'drop' characters that steal spotlights, why are Ryu and Ken in SF3?! If Alex was supposed to be the new main character, wouldn't it make more sense to leave those two out so Alex could truely shine?
Too bad Stefan doesn't take e-mails, I'd like to see the insane answer to that one.
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| VManOfMana
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| "Re(2):Stefan....bleh." , posted Sun 26 Oct 13:46
Adding more stuff to Stefan's list:
1. His claim that the use of a character of a game is also an indication of the character's popularity. He insinuated once that Cammy is popular because she is being used often in CvS2. Of course, Cammy is popular in CvS2 because she is as retarded to use as Blanka and Sagat, if not more. Interestingly, in the same anti-Ryu rant he mentions that being able to use a Shoryuken right after a Satsumakisenpuu Kyaku while not being able to do a [AA Cammy kick] right after a Spiral Arrow is retarded (those who play CvS2 now understand why allowing such a thing is a crime - besides, Spiral
Arrow is a completely different beast than a Satsumakisenpuu Kyaku).
2. Interestingly, CvS2 is a real life contradiction to his claim that people overuse Ryu and Ken and not Cammy because they are cheap and retarded to use.
2b. Conclusion: he is a major scrub when it comes to fighting games.
3. His claim that Chun Li is boring because she has not changed in years. I don't know where he got that considering that:
- Chun Li has more sprite sets than Cammy (SF2, Alpha, SF2/Alpha, 3S, CvS2)
- Chun Li has been radically redesigned gameplay-wise three times (SF2/Alpha > 3S > CvS2) unlike Cammy
- Chun Li has a post-SF2 history unlike Cammy
- Chun Li has had an important personality change (SF2 to SF3), something that Stefan ignores.
4. His claim that Cammy and Chun Li are rivals. They don't even know each other. Chun Li had a (questionable) glance of Cammy at the end of the Alpha storyline, and never saw each other again until SF2 (IF they saw each other according to canon).
5. His claim that Cammy and Guile always work together instead of Chun Li and Guile. Chun Li, Guile and Nash worked together in canon, Cammy and Guile never met each other before Alpha, and I don't remember any mention about them working together after that. Canon Spike is not canon, and the Van Damme movie is obviously not canon either.
6. Just repeating what someone else said, his Japanese Fun Facts are indeed, ignorant.
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| dr baghead 2589th Post
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| "Re(3):Stefan....bleh." , posted Sun 26 Oct 14:46
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3. His claim that Chun Li is boring because she has not changed in years. I don't know where he got that considering that:
- Chun Li has more sprite sets than Cammy (SF2, Alpha, SF2/Alpha, 3S, CvS2)
- Chun Li has been radically redesigned gameplay-wise three times (SF2/Alpha > 3S > CvS2) unlike Cammy
- Chun Li has a post-SF2 history unlike Cammy
- Chun Li has had an important personality change (SF2 to SF3), something that Stefan ignores.
Those facts have always confused me about him, I mean those aren't subtle changes like Ryu's headband/hair color or something. So I really find it shocking the a slight change in Cammy's hat and thong color are considered a greater change then a stylized Chinese dress to a one piece tight.
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4. His claim that Cammy and Chun Li are rivals. They don't even know each other. Chun Li had a (questionable) glance of Cammy at the end of the Alpha storyline, and never saw each other again until SF2 (IF they saw each other according to canon).
That's actually a very common misconception, that just because they're females they'd be rivals.
Of course the cannon shots such an idea down as would common sense (why would they be rivals? did they show up at the SF2 tournament saying "Okay, who ever else has breast is going to be my mortal foe!"?)
the best way that would actually fit into the cannon is to assume Chun-Li knows Cammy is Bison/Vega's clone and that she'd want to destroy every part of Bison/Vega out there. But Chun's not that insane, Guile on the other hand...
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5. His claim that Cammy and Guile always work together instead of Chun Li and Guile. Chun Li, Guile and Nash worked together in canon, Cammy and Guile never met each other before Alpha, and I don't remember any mention about them working together after that. Canon Spike is not canon, and the Van Damme movie is obviously not canon either.
Well he believes anything Cammy is in that's "offical" (ie-not doujins, not fanfics, only licensed products) is part of her story.
Speaking of Cannon Spike, I like how he gives all of Cammy's endings and then makes conjectures of how that relates to the real SF storyline (ie-she and Nash must be in love because she seems worried about him! or how Bulleta hates Cammy because she kicks her out of the ship.) When in fact the same ends play out no matter who you can, they're all cookie cutter (pink haired girl worries for Charlie too, and Bulleta kicks Arthur out of the ship as well)
Also, it's funny he ignores that the game is actually called "Gun Spike" just because the 'censored' name makes it sound more like a Cammy spin-off... and off topic, but is Fallen Balrog really Balrog/Vega from SF?! I mean, has it ever been offical stated if he is the same guy or not?
As well knowledged about games as he thinks he is, I don't think he realizes the difference between a "cannon" and "non-cannon" source.
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| TiamatRoar 541th Post
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| "Re(8):Stefan....bleh." , posted Mon 27 Oct 10:50:
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But now that I think about it, when "canon" games can include characters as diverse as Blanka and R.Mika where do you draw the line?
Typically, the line is supposed to be where ever the company decides to draw it (or at least that's the way it should be for anything that's ongoing. Don't think it necessarily matters for a universe that's finished unless it gets picked up again). But sadly, that can lead to absolute stupidity sometimes (Ex: Castlevania games being written in then written out of the timeline ad infinum, SFA1, etc). And in others, it's really not clear until the company finally releases the info, itself, and you manage to get your hands on that info, which can take a while (Wow, I myself never would have guessed that Megaman Legends was in the same canon as Megaman and Megaman X). And in some cases, the company doesn't say jack squat and you're left with a big pile of "Fits in someways, conflicts in others... eh?" crap (Rival Schools and whether or not it's in the Street Fighter universe).
In Cannon Spike's case, the biggest problems are age conflicts (Charlie is either too young or Cammy too old. And BBHood is too young and Arthur...), crossover-ness of characters that weren't crossed over in more reliably canon games (Megaman, King Arthur, BBHood, and Street Fighter characters all in the same game), comparison of the games to various confirmed canon worlds (Canon Spike's world doesn't really seem like something that would take place in a Megaman game), timeline conflicts that are just too much (Arthur again), and made by a different company (Psikyo. Note that this isn't always definitive of a game being 'dream match', as I think Arika made the probably canon Megaman Network Transmission or at least had a big part in it, but it usually is).
Oh yea, I'm pretty sure that Fallen Balrog is indeed Balrog in Cannon Spike. Doesn't the game name him as such? Well, if not, I could have sworn the official art was labelled as "Fallen Balrog". The name itself should be pretty conclusive, I think. I could be wrong, though.
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