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| Jazzie D 2190th Post
 
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|  "Another mystery for Jazz-kun, P.D."
, posted Sat 25 Oct 14:47
So what's the latest mystery of Jazzie-kun, anime/manga/game detective this time? We all know that each Orochi senshi has an element involved. There's Yashirou w/ earth, Shermie w/ lightning, Chris w/ fire, the guy w/ one of the most annoying quotes, aka Goenitz, w/ wind and Gaidel w/ water. What are the elements of Mature, Vice and Yamazaki? The best answer I've heard up to this point it shadow, but is that the answer?
Side note: maybe I should start a gig like this. Unlike Riri (of Zodiac Detective), I have a site online where I can pick up these mysteries. Hee hee! =P
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| Krzyzewski Man
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| "Re(1):Another mystery for Jazz-kun, P.D." , posted Sat 25 Oct 21:17
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So what's the latest mystery of Jazzie-kun, anime/manga/game detective this time? We all know that each Orochi senshi has an element involved. There's Yashirou w/ earth, Shermie w/ lightning, Chris w/ fire, the guy w/ one of the most annoying quotes, aka Goenitz, w/ wind and Gaidel w/ water. What are the elements of Mature, Vice and Yamazaki? The best answer I've heard up to this point it shadow, but is that the answer?
Side note: maybe I should start a gig like this. Unlike Riri (of Zodiac Detective), I have a site online where I can pick up these mysteries. Hee hee! =P
Mature: Light
Vice: Electricity
Yamazaki: Mountain (Phoenix is correct)
Those should be right, but then again I did get 'em from the Hong Kong comics, so take it with a grain of salt. For instance, Vice having electricity while Shermie having lightning doesn't make much sense. Then again, it's not as if SNK is known for their unfailing attention to detail.
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| Jazzie D 2195th Post
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| "Re(4):Another mystery for Jazz-kun, P.D." , posted Sun 26 Oct 08:17
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Mature: Light
Vice: Electricity
Yamazaki: Mountain (Phoenix is correct)
Those should be right, but then again I did get 'em from the Hong Kong comics, so take it with a grain of salt. For instance, Vice having electricity while Shermie having lightning doesn't make much sense. Then again, it's not as if SNK is known for their unfailing attention to detail.
"Hong Kong comics" don't help either. So, I'll still say that it has not been solved yet.
Well I asked around and got 2 different sets of answers.
Jack Lance:
Mature: Light
Vice: Darkness (Maybe?)
Yamazaki: Mountains
Zell:
Mature: Speed
Vice: Strength
Yamazaki: Mountain
If you ask me the former answer somewhat makes more sense. Maybe Mature is the sexy senshi or something...and Butch power for Vice...
Hmmm. I think Mature as light and Vice as dark makes sense. I still wonder why Yamazaki is mountain, but then again, moon is an element in the Seiken Densetsu games. ^^ So, why should that be a surprise? Never the less, we could have that answer or we are close to it.
Tomo - Kimura-sensei why did you become a teacher?
Kimura-sensei - CUZ I LIKE HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS AND STUFF!
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| Sensenic 863th Post
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| "Re(6):Another mystery for Jazz-kun, P.D." , posted Tue 28 Oct 10:14
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I have asked that same question and I got the following answer: Only the mightiest hakkeshu had elemental powers (thus being only the 4 kings that the in game story implies).
That's what I thought: the 4 kings are related to wind, earth, fire and lightning, and that'd be all, no water. I've never seen anywhere anything relating Gaidel to water, but I'm not precisely the one with the best KOF story knowledge here.
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I took me many time to realize that, but KoF story is only "taken out of the hat"; a last minute invention; take for example the fact that Yamazaki was Orochi -> that didn't make any incidence with the character... And I also think that THAT fact "corrupts" the intention that the authors of the character (the graou crew) had in mind for him.
It's the same like having Ryo and the rest of the AoF "rejuvenete" 15 or so years to be only for about 20's in 94' (AoF was supposed to take place in the 70's, if I do recall).
Or like having Kasumi & Xiang Fei be in KoF; since one is from a Side story and the other is from a dream match without story they "in theory" don't exist... Althrough no one is complinning about that (and I don't do so, it's just an insteresting point).
Weeehhhhw.
And I agree with Toxico that we must not forget the "taken out of the hat factor".
Although lemme discuss with you a couple of points, Papá Mono:
- I wouldn't think of Orochi Yamazaki being much of a "original idea of the character ruining" since (I'll admit I'm talking only from my supositions from now on) I guess Orochi wouldn't have had much influence over him until and after 96-97. After all even during this period when Orochi is more powerful he almost completely ignores it, being perhaps the only influence that crazy laugh and psycho attitude. But wasn't he supposed to be a "professional psychopath" from the beginning?
- The fact that Kasumi is from a side story shouldn't be an obstacle for her presence in KOF. After all the Garous and the Ryuukos have always been (more or less) side story charas in this saga. If Kasumi, like all the other garous and ryuukos officially "exists in the KOF universe" (because the FFs and the AoFs "happen" in it) then she can be there as any other character from those games. Arf, arf...
As for Xiang Fei (which game is she from exactly, BTW? ^_^U)... You might have a point right there but I still think the fact she appears in a Dreammatch doesn't mean she doesn't "exist in the KOF universe", it only means that the garou cast and her haven't officially met. But being a good fighter like she is, it's quite probable she met them sooner or later not in a game storyline. Perhaps the official fact that explains this is in one of those All about SNK... or perhaps not, the hell I should know. I just mean she's easily fits in there argumentally even if she doesn't appear in a canon garou.
And after repeating myself in one only text more times than I can count, I say goodbye. Ta-ta 
Mwahahaha! I'm gonna murder someone...
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| Jazzie D 2206th Post
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| "Re(7):Another mystery for Jazz-kun, P.D." , posted Tue 28 Oct 10:19
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I have asked that same question and I got the following answer: Only the mightiest hakkeshu had elemental powers (thus being only the 4 kings that the in game story implies).
That's what I thought: the 4 kings are related to wind, earth, fire and lightning, and that'd be all, no water. I've never seen anywhere anything relating Gaidel to water, but I'm not precisely the one with the best KOF story knowledge here.
I took me many time to realize that, but KoF story is only "taken out of the hat"; a last minute invention; take for example the fact that Yamazaki was Orochi -> that didn't make any incidence with the character... And I also think that THAT fact "corrupts" the intention that the authors of the character (the graou crew) had in mind for him.
It's the same like having Ryo and the rest of the AoF "rejuvenete" 15 or so years to be only for about 20's in 94' (AoF was supposed to take place in the 70's, if I do recall).
Or like having Kasumi & Xiang Fei be in KoF; since one is from a Side story and the other is from a dream match without story they "in theory" don't exist... Althrough no one is complinning about that (and I don't do so, it's just an insteresting point).
Weeehhhhw.
And I agree with Toxico that we must not forget the "taken out of the hat factor".
Although lemme discuss with you a couple of points, Papá Mono:
- I wouldn't think of Orochi Yamazaki being much of a "original idea of the character ruining" since (I'll admit I'm talking only from my supositions from now on) I guess Orochi wouldn't have had much influence over him until and after 96-97. After all even during this period when Orochi is more powerful he almost completely ignores it, being perhaps the only influence that crazy laugh and psycho attitude. But wasn't he supposed to be a "professional psychopath" from the beginning?
- The fact that Kasumi is from a side story shouldn't be an obstacle for her presence in KOF. After all the Garous and the Ryuukos have always been (more or less) side story charas in this saga. If Kasumi, like all the other garous and ryuukos officially "exists in the KOF universe" (because the FFs and the AoFs "happen" in it) then she can be there as any other character from those games. Arf, arf...
As for Xiang Fei (which game is she from exactly, BTW? ^_^U)... You might have a point right there but I still think the fact she appears in a Dreammatch doesn't mean she doesn't "exist in the KOF universe", it only means that the garou cast and her haven't officially met. But being a good fighter like she is, it's quite probable she met them sooner or later not in a game storyline. Perhaps the official fact that explains this is in one of those All about SNK... or perhaps not, the hell I should know. I just mean she's easily fits in there argumentally even if she doesn't appear in a canon garou.
And after repeating myself in one only text more times than I can count, I say goodbye. Ta-ta
You know what? I think you guys might be right.
Oh and as for Xiangfei, she first appeared in Real Bout II.
Tomo - Kimura-sensei why did you become a teacher?
Kimura-sensei - CUZ I LIKE HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS AND STUFF!
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