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Juke Joint Jezebel

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Platinum Carpet V.I.P- Board Master

"DC/PS2 Grandia II Differences?" , posted Thu 23 Oct 11:07

i've got a few questions. but uh

quoting from this place

"The PS2 version has quite some problems, some parts of the game are extremely slow and there are transparency clipping issues.

In the Dreamcast version, mushrooms spawn random items, Melfice's regenerator is invincible and the Millenia Zap! bug from the PS2 version doesn't occur."

k

- how slow is "extremely slow"?
- what parts do the "transparency clipping" take place? (during spells, i'm guessing, but it's been a while since i've played the game. maybe during some "cut scenes" or something)
- Millenia Zap! bug?

- other than the abovementioned, are there any other differences/issues/problems?

- one final question that has nothing to do with Grandia II. does anybody have any comments about Grandia Xtreme?

ty

Chullore: "let mark eat this

it good for his anger"

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Hagen de Merak

548th Post

New Red Carpet Member

"Re(1):DC/PS2 Grandia II Differences?" , posted Thu 23 Oct 11:52

quote:
i've got a few questions. but uh

quoting from this place

"The PS2 version has quite some problems, some parts of the game are extremely slow and there are transparency clipping issues.

In the Dreamcast version, mushrooms spawn random items, Melfice's regenerator is invincible and the Millenia Zap! bug from the PS2 version doesn't occur."

k

- how slow is "extremely slow"?
- what parts do the "transparency clipping" take place? (during spells, i'm guessing, but it's been a while since i've played the game. maybe during some "cut scenes" or something)
- Millenia Zap! bug?
- other than the abovementioned, are there any other differences/issues/problems?

- one final question that has nothing to do with Grandia II. does anybody have any comments about Grandia Xtreme?

ty

the gaphics are another issue(or so ive read in a couple of reviews). supposedly it takes away from the "mood" and the overall "experience" of the game and environment. i got to go to class so i'll tell you more when i see you, asshole.

Kaepora
248th Post

Frequent Customer

"Re:Mini Grandia Xtreme review" , posted Thu 23 Oct 12:20

quote:
- one final question that has nothing to do with Grandia II. does anybody have any comments about Grandia Xtreme?

I picked it up used for $25 (US) and felt like I got my money's worth. Personally, I wouldn't pay more than that though.

There are eight party members you can use through most of the game, picking a party of four. It normally ends up as Main character, whatever character has story-related development, and two others of your choice.

The battle system is a refined version of the one from Grandia II. Special attacks are leveled the more you use them, while magic spells are leveled by mixing/breeding Mana Eggs you find. Also, you can learn Chrono Trigger-style team attacks if two people are close together and you do a certain special move.

The plot is decent enough as a whole, but nothing incredible or ground-breaking like I originally thought it was shaping out to be. The game feels short until you realize...

Spoiler (Highlight to view) -

...most of the stuff in the game is part of the "epilogue," which apparently accounts for half of the play time.

End of Spoiler

There are only two towns, and a small number of "lands" to visit. You use waypoints to go to and from different parts of the areas. That aspect feels a lot like Diablo II. The waypoint thing would have been cool if the game didn't keep resetting them.

Voice acting is horrible, in my opinion, especially when compared to Grandia II.

Mind you, I only played half-way through the game before I got sort of bored with it. It was very fun to play, but I lost the incentive to keep advancing. I'll probably pick up from my save again some day.

Juke Joint Jezebel

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"Re(2):DC/PS2 Grandia II Differences?" , posted Thu 23 Oct 17:42

thanks for the overview of Grandia Xtreme, Kaepora. at this one store, there's a good chance the price has lowered to $20

it's actually a bit more than i expected. the team-up attacks and refined battle system kinda came as a surprise. sounds like a game you can pick up, play for a bit, then turn off when you're bored. one of those things you don't have to worry about the storyline too much (like Harvest Moon or Advance Wars or something). i might pick it up in a few weeks for the hell of it. i <3 $20 games

quote:
i got to go to class so i'll tell you more when i see you, asshole.

i got out of class early. the hell are you, you dumb motherfucker

Chullore: "let mark eat this

it good for his anger"

hikarutilmitt
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Occasional Customer

"Re(1):DC/PS2 Grandia II Differences?" , posted Thu 23 Oct 20:18

I barely played the DC version, but the PS2 version DOES have quite a bit of slowdown (almost to the point where I might have stopped playing, but the rest of the game was too superb for me to care about the slowdown).

I'm not certain what he's talking about with the clipping issues.

I've no clue what the ZAP! bug for Millenia was.

Radish

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"Re(1):DC/PS2 Grandia II Differences?" , posted Thu 23 Oct 20:33

Something tells me there's more happening in your avatar that you aren't allowed to show.

Juke Joint Jezebel

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Platinum Carpet V.I.P- Board Master

"Re(2):DC/PS2 Grandia II Differences?" , posted Sat 25 Oct 00:11

one last bump FOR GREAT JUSTICE

quote:
Something tells me there's more happening in your avatar that you aren't allowed to show.

the avatar's from the Melodia book

- here's some scans
- main site

nice collection of stuff there

and as long as i'm sharing stuff

- mp3 voice samples
- main site (may be familiar to some of you)

great collection of audio clips there. they're not even recorded from an active game. no game music or anything in the background. too bad they don't have all of them, but it's still a nice bit

i even converted some to *.wav so i could make them windows sounds. but i eventually took them off. hearing Millenia from the next room at 2 in the morning "bet you'd like this .... YOU PIG" and "don't you find me .. ATTRACTIVE??!" can scare the crap out of you

e: visual summary of the mmcafe forums:
http://img.4chan.net/h/src/1066113001662.jpg

Burning Ranger

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New Red Carpet Member

"How about the PC version?" , posted Sun 26 Oct 13:01

Does anyone have any opinions about the PC version of Grandia 2? I played the DC version, and I'm thinking about getting the PC version since I got rid of the DC one.

Advanced Cyborg E. Branger AKA Burning Ranger

"Never underestimate the predictabilty of stupidity." -Vinnie Jones from SNATCH

Amakusa

342th Post

Bronze Customer

"Re(1):How about the PC version?" , posted Sun 26 Oct 13:40:

quote:
Does anyone have any opinions about the PC version of Grandia 2? I played the DC version, and I'm thinking about getting the PC version since I got rid of the DC one.

I remember someone asking me about this a long time ago (more to the point, he was asking if Grandia II was any good, he was getting the PC version while I played the DC version). He was having some video problems with it (but that's probably just him). I don't remember what much else was talked about, just that the basic gist of the conversation was that the DC version was superior.

Basically, I think it mainly depends a lot on your computer. Go figure.

I found Kagami's sword in a junk yard.
I will rule the world

and find that truly good cup of coffee.
"Dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-do."

[this message was edited by Amakusa on Sun 26 Oct 13:43]

Hagen de Merak

549th Post

New Red Carpet Member

"Re(1):How about the PC version?" , posted Sun 26 Oct 13:41

quote:
I got rid of the DC one.

Blasphemy!

Ammadeau

517th Post

New Red Carpet Member

"Re(2):How about the PC version?" , posted Sun 26 Oct 21:11

quote:
I got rid of the DC one.
Blasphemy!

So to not be a heretic you have to keep a crappy game just because it was on the DC? I still have my copy, but I'd be more than happy to sell it to some sucker who doesn't know what boring gameplay and horrible story (with one single likable character) it contains.

Hagen de Merak

550th Post

New Red Carpet Member

"Re(3):How about the PC version?" , posted Sun 26 Oct 21:18

quote:

So to not be a heretic you have to keep a crappy game just because it was on the DC? I still have my copy, but I'd be more than happy to sell it to some sucker who doesn't know what boring gameplay and horrible story (with one single likable character) it contains.

i never said anything about the DC. If its a good game, the system doesnt matter. As far as it being a "crappy" game, thats totally a matter of opinion.

Burning Ranger

517th Post

New Red Carpet Member

"Re(3):How about the PC version?" , posted Sun 26 Oct 21:22

quote:
I got rid of the DC one.
Blasphemy!

So to not be a heretic you have to keep a crappy game just because it was on the DC? I still have my copy, but I'd be more than happy to sell it to some sucker who doesn't know what boring gameplay and horrible story (with one single likable character) it contains.

Well, I got rid of it because I was in a really tight jam money-wise. I needed to cut down on spending, and I decided to get rid of games that I wasn't going to play often. Despite Grandia 2 being a good RPG, I'm not that big of an RPG fan. In fact, I also had to bid adeu to the only other RPG I liked, Shining the Holy Ark. But as for Grandia 2, I'm not too upset witgh getting the DC version. I got more than I paid for it in trade in value, and on top of that, the game store was selling it cheaper than what they paid me for it.

Advanced Cyborg E. Branger AKA Burning Ranger

"Never underestimate the predictabilty of stupidity." -Vinnie Jones from SNATCH

Juke Joint Jezebel

2410th Post

Platinum Carpet V.I.P- Board Master

"How about the PC version? (music)" , posted Mon 27 Oct 06:56

how's the music in the PC version? MIDI?

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