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| Burning Ranger 493th Post
 
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|  "A thought came to me..."
, posted Sun 12 Oct 20:18
I was playing Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution, where I renamed my Sarah character "The_Bride" and a funny thought came to me:
What if there was a fighting game based on Tarantino's movies? Tarantino has directed and written so many with a lot of badass characters!
Wow, just imagine:
From Reservoir Dogs:
Mr. Orange, Mr. Blonde (aka Vic Vega...just imagine Yamazaki with style), Mr. Brown, Mr. Pink, Mr. White
From From Dusk Till Dawn:
Seth Gecko, Richard Gecko, Santanico Pandemonium (the vampire queen, as a boss), Sex Machine, Frost (the Vietnam war vet), Kate Fuller
From Pulp Fiction:
Vincent Vega, Jules Winfield, Butch Coolidge (the Boxer), Marcellus Wallace, Winston Wolfe (And Captain Koons as a hidden character..LOL)
From Kill Bill:
The Bride, Bill (as a boss), O-Ren Ishi, Go Go Yubari, Elle Driver (Daryl Hannah with the eyepatch), Vernita Green
...And there could no doubt be a lot more, especially from Jackie Brown, Natural Born Killers, and True Romance. However, I don't know too much about them except that Tarantino wrote them (he also directed Jackie Brown).
The "How to Play" screen can be narrated by Hanzo Hattori (voiced by Sonny Chiba), and the announcer could be none other than Steven Wright, the voice of the K-BILLY Disc Jockey in "Reservoir Dogs."
OMG, this would so rock! It boggles the mind to see a GoGo Yubari vs Mr. Blonde fight!
Gods of Video Games and Movies, I pray to thee! Please colaborate on my Tarantino fanboy dream!
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| OYashiroForever 554th Post
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| "Re(1):I Killed Bill." , posted Sun 12 Oct 22:25
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A truly ludicrous film.
A very accurate portrayal.
I'm with Zepy on this one. I don't know whether to heap praise on it for the beautiful sets, camera work, in-jokes (you gotta love "Kaboom"), swordplay, and Sonny Chiba or laugh at it for the stupid dialogue (between this and watching Scarface the other night, I think I'm finally tired of the "f" word), mediocre fight scenes (you heard me), and Uma Thurman: Last Samurai (sorry, but I don't buy the "bony, anorexic white girl as fierce assassin warrior" bit).
Results may vary, of course.
"Only two things are infinite the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former."
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| Juke Joint Jezebel 2374th Post
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|  "Re(4):I Killed Bill."
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Watch more HK films (especially some of the older stuff)... I assure you, I'm not the one who's missing something. Hyper-kinetic editing and cinematic camera angles attempt to cover up the fact that the main characters can't fight.
i'm sure you already know this but i'll state it for the hell of it. i thought it was more than decent, considering the actresses (i'm mainly thinking of Uma, Lucy, and Vivica) didn't train in martial arts their entire lives. they had a few months to train for their roles and that's it. it's probably intimidating as hell, but i'm sure it was an awesome experience for them to be taught by Sonny Chiba and other greats. before anyone mentions it, there's no need to go into specifics. (i know Lucy Liu practices some Filipino weapons art that involves staves and knives. the same could probably be said about Uma and Vivica). they all had to learn new things for their roles and i was definitely impressed when i saw them in action
as for the "bony, anorexic" Uma, you've gotta give her more credit than that. she is a freakin' giant. the camera plays tricks on you
anyways, i think you're the only one who has noticed at least one of the in-jokes so far. "Kaboom" is hilarious. and someone else had to point me out the billboard for "Red Apple cigarettes" (same brand Bruce Willis smoked in Pulp Fiction). i'm sure there's a million more
bang, bang, that awful sound
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| OYashiroForever 556th Post
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| "Re(5):I Killed Bill." , posted Mon 13 Oct 13:07
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i'm sure you already know this but i'll state it for the hell of it. i thought it was more than decent, considering the actresses (i'm mainly thinking of Uma, Lucy, and Vivica) didn't train in martial arts their entire lives.
Yes... with that consideration, the fight scenes certainly weren't bad. However, to be honest, I expected more from Tarantino. Perhaps my expectations were set too high, but for a guy who's supposedly nuts about HK and Japanese pulp filmmaking, you'd think he'd get some more able bodies to fill these skill-required roles.
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as for the "bony, anorexic" Uma, you've gotta give her more credit than that. she is a freakin' giant. the camera plays tricks on you
Rule of thumb: if you can see a person's bones under their skin, they have a problem. She looks gaunt. Not blaming her... Hollywood's hyper-critical eye turns actresses into body-obsessed skeletons. I'm just saying it makes her unbelievable as a bad-arse swordmaster assassin. "Suspension of disbelief" is important, especially in a film as goofy as this, but you have to believe your main character is what they claim to be.
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anyways, i think you're the only one who has noticed at least one of the in-jokes so far. "Kaboom" is hilarious. and someone else had to point me out the billboard for "Red Apple cigarettes" (same brand Bruce Willis smoked in Pulp Fiction). i'm sure there's a million more
Ah yes... I thought that billboard looked familiar. Good times.
"Only two things are infinite the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former."
"Your denial is beneath you and thanks to the use of hallucinogenic drugs I see through you."
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| Burning Ranger 502th Post
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| "Re(3):Re(10):I Killed Bill." , posted Mon 13 Oct 14:31
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here's some fun fun fun i'd like to share
by the way, was i the only one laughing my ass off when it showed the view from inside that Texas Ranger's car? good times
My favorite bit of that "fun fun fun" link:
4. Computers Were Used, Like, Once: Unlike today's rash of slick Matrix-ized action flicks, Bill has only a few tiny CGI shots (to remove wires from fighters flying through the air). "If I'd wanted all that computer-game bulls--t," Tarantino tells Britain's Empire magazine, "I'd have gone home and stuck my d--k in my Nintendo."
I had to laugh at that!
Actually, the bit about the detective in the Texas scenes is interesting. It's the same actor that played the sherriff in From Dusk Till Dawn, which Tarantino wrote and starred in. It made me wonder if the sherriff (or specifically, the Texas Ranger) was the same one from From Dusk Till Dawn. This reminded me of an Ain't it cool news article with Tarantino discussing his movie universes, saying that Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs existed in one universe while From Dusk Till Dawn and Kill Bill in a separate "Movie Movie" universe.
Info on Tarantino's movie universes can be found at http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=9830
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| DarkZero 370th Post
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| "Re(7):I Killed Bill." , posted Tue 14 Oct 01:15
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Rule of thumb: if you can see a person's bones under their skin, they have a problem.
That's not true at all. Uma Thurman is six godamn feet tall, she's like a female me. I'm well within my healthy weight range, you can see bones all over my body, and I do NOT have a problem. I eat like a pig, and none of that goes into the toilet until my body has officially declared it digested. That "see a person's bones" is just an knee-jerk exaggeration.
I'm both shorter than Uma Thurman and overweight and you can see some of the bones through my skin. So yeah, that's ridiculous. And I don't think that Uma Thurman needs to be The Incredible Hulk to cut people with a sword or a knife. Those activities are more about skill and agility than strength.
And yes, it was an excellent movie. Not perfect, but pretty damned excellent. The music, the fight scenes, the characters... I loved the whole thing. The only real sore spot that I can think of was Lucy Liu. She's just a bad actress and it didn't help that her character, in spite of her much longer backstory, was considerably less fun and interesting than any other character in the movie. Gogo, Copperhead, and the dude with the dual cane-sword (I can't remember the name of the weapon) were all fun enemies and Bill and Budd sound like fun, too. I'm looking forward to Volume 2, just like everybody else, and I'm glad they didn't try to strip this down to two and a half hours.
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Watch more HK films (especially some of the older stuff)... I assure you, I'm not the one who's missing something. Hyper-kinetic editing and cinematic camera angles attempt to cover up the fact that the main characters can't fight.
I actually have to agree with this. The One Versus One Hundred fight scene has been done better both in The Matrix (with the help of CG) and Zatoichi's Revenge (with no help at all). It was a damn good fight, but if your eyes ever wandered away from the Bride, you would see large numbers of actors and actresses standing around like idiots waiting for their cue. There's just no excuse for that when Zatoichi's Revenge pulled off the same thing with no such problems on a shoestring budget in 1965.
And as for names in the credits, did anyone else notice that one of the yakuza in the anime sequence was voiced by Hikaru Midorikawa, aka Heero Yuy, Zelgadis, Seto Kaiba, and Android 16? I think he was the long-haired guy in the one coat with the katana.
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| TiamatRoar 516th Post
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| "Re(8):I Killed Bill." , posted Tue 14 Oct 07:55:
I assume we're at the point in this thread where we can spoil somewhat freely? (though really, Kill Bill isn't something you'd mainly watch for the plot, I'd think). Well, slight warning to those that didn't see the movie, yet, I guess.
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it didn't help that her character, in spite of her much longer backstory, was considerably less fun and interesting than any other character in the movie. Gogo, Copperhead, and the dude with the dual cane-sword (I can't remember the name of the weapon) were all fun enemies and Bill and Budd sound like fun, too.
I read a review of the movie which said that it was the type of movie where characters are defined by their weapons. Which is probably somewhat accurate, since Kill Bill is mainly an action flick. The Bride can get away with just using a sword because she's the main character and sword = main character most of the time. From there, Masked Bald Leader Guy had that double cane thing, which was interesting, and Gogo of course had the Ball and Chain (and bonus of being a schoolgirl). Copperhead was about knives, but also that whole mother daughter thing and the KABOOM cereal joke was neat. Iren, meanwhile, kinda... just has another sword. Yea, also, in these types of movies, typically, sword = main villain, and Iren was the final villain for this first volume, but in the end, it was kinda... meh. I mean, the final battle is a sword fight right after a battle that consisted of The Bride with her sword killing 88 guys with swords already. So... yea, the other characters were generally more fun.
I'm curious as to what the later action scenes and weapons will be like. Volume 2 is supposed to be more of a western than a samurai flick according to interviews (Budd was wearing a cowboy hat at the end of Volume 1, wasn't he? I mistook him for the Texas Ranger until he said "we have to die")
http://db.gamefaqs.com/coinop/arcade/file/street_fighter_plot.txt
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| DarkZero 377th Post
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| "Re(9):I Killed Bill." , posted Tue 14 Oct 17:02
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absolutely untrue. sorry to jump in on this conversation, especially considering that i havent seen the movie. but sword work requires tons of strength, especially if the cutting takes place over a long period of time. ive done lots of cutting with my real sword (bamboo mostly), and its very very tiring. anyone who has trained in kendo can tell you that even with bamboo swords (which are much much lighter than real swords), fast powerful swings require good strength.
I should've explained this better, because I didn't mean to present sword fighting as some sort of leisurely activity. It was more of a combination of the fact that she wasn't using a weapon that was TOO heavy (a katana is heavy, but it's not an axe or a broadsword or anything) and that her fighting style had more to do with acrobatics than pure strength. In the movie, they never presented her as being very strong and she actually had sort of a glass jaw whenever anyone actually managed to land a hit. She dodged most attacks and the majority of the hits she got in were because she was more skilled with her sword, not because she overpowered her enemy. Granted, you have to be strong to pull off acrobatics with a sword, but you don't have to be musclebound.
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| Juke Joint Jezebel 2380th Post
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| "Re(10):I Killed Bill." , posted Wed 15 Oct 07:57
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absolutely untrue. sorry to jump in on this conversation, especially considering that i havent seen the movie. but sword work requires tons of strength, especially if the cutting takes place over a long period of time. ive done lots of cutting with my real sword (bamboo mostly), and its very very tiring. anyone who has trained in kendo can tell you that even with bamboo swords (which are much much lighter than real swords), fast powerful swings require good strength.
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I should've explained this better, because I didn't mean to present sword fighting as some sort of leisurely activity. It was more of a combination of the fact that she wasn't using a weapon that was TOO heavy (a katana is heavy, but it's not an axe or a broadsword or anything) and that her fighting style had more to do with acrobatics than pure strength. In the movie, they never presented her as being very strong and she actually had sort of a glass jaw whenever anyone actually managed to land a hit. She dodged most attacks and the majority of the hits she got in were because she was more skilled with her sword, not because she overpowered her enemy. Granted, you have to be strong to pull off acrobatics with a sword, but you don't have to be musclebound.
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| Mosquiton 956th Post
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| "Big 'n veniy gals" , posted Wed 15 Oct 12:57
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absolutely untrue. sorry to jump in on this conversation, especially considering that i havent seen the movie. but sword work requires tons of strength, especially if the cutting takes place over a long period of time. ive done lots of cutting with my real sword (bamboo mostly), and its very very tiring. anyone who has trained in kendo can tell you that even with bamboo swords (which are much much lighter than real swords), fast powerful swings require good strength.
I should've explained this better, because I didn't mean to present sword fighting as some sort of leisurely activity. It was more of a combination of the fact that she wasn't using a weapon that was TOO heavy (a katana is heavy, but it's not an axe or a broadsword or anything) and that her fighting style had more to do with acrobatics than pure strength. In the movie, they never presented her as being very strong and she actually had sort of a glass jaw whenever anyone actually managed to land a hit. She dodged most attacks and the majority of the hits she got in were because she was more skilled with her sword, not because she overpowered her enemy. Granted, you have to be strong to pull off acrobatics with a sword, but you don't have to be musclebound.
Besides, women in fighting shape don't normally get as big and veiny as guys. There are women in triathelete shape with near superhuman endurance and strength yet they still look resonably normal size-wise.
And weapons have always been a bit of an equalizer as far as strength is concerned. Martial arts isn't such a simple issue.
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