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| iggy 1854th Post
 
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|  "Samurai Spirits 0 endings (SPOILERS)"
, posted Fri 10 Oct 19:12:
Well, I can't sleep, so I thought I would better see what people say about SS0 who just came out...
hmmm... Mina and Yunfei are expert chara, if you use them without knowing where you go, Unpi's weird moves and Mina's lack of endurance will get you killed before the fight begins. I mean, she can die of 2 strong slashes with a full kenki gauge.
It seems that the characters have 2 endings. At least Haomaru has 2 endings, one with Yoshitora, one with Rasetsumaru. Since the endings I saw are really sad, I guess most of them are bad endings, and some/all characters have a more happy end?
Galford's ending : one of Puppy's children (Papa? Pipi? Pipa?) gets sucked in a gate to the makai, and Garurun (yes, I know, I recycle my nicknames) protects him and gets sucked in his place, leaving Puppy sama and her baby on earth. Are they trying to include more rasetsu characters in a sequel? Are they totally re-writing the story? Hmmmm...
Nako is asked by her dead father and Kamui's spirit (who looks like Nako in the PS1 game) if she will fight as Kamui's priest or if she will take kamui's strength ; she ask what would happen if she can't handle Kamui's strength and the spirit says she will seek for another priest. She thinks to Rimu and says "give me your strength". (I think in the PS1 game, it was said that Rimu had the strength for beeing a better priest, but Nako didn't want her to suffer and took her place...? I should check this).
EDIT : Rimururu's ending follows Nako's. She runs, crying, to her sister, then you see a flashback scene with very young Rimu running crying to very young Nako, and Nako says "stop crying, from now on, I will be your sister". Then, normal Nako says "if I am your sister, I must have the strength to protect her" and she answers to the Kamui spirit. Rimu says something about wanting to be a priest too to protect Nako, but Nako says she'll do it alone, and they both go back to Kamuikotan.
Well, THAT's re-telling of a story, but it works with me. At least it explains why Rimu wasn't worried about her father in her scenario, if it's not her father at all...
Mina is still the number one moe-chara with people asking for Mina-Mina-Nurse cosplay(that song..aaaah... my head...) or more regular furries thing, like fanarts of champuru (how do you write his name?) eating her. I must say I wouldn't mind the last one. And...her ending explains that that the one who destroyed her village is... champuru (!). SNKP suteki! And he kills her too! (or at least, she is in big trouble. Since she already plays at a Nakoruru/Mai level of moee, I can bet the mystery T shirt it won't be her last game)
Unpi's ending is quite good, he recognize the demon who fusionned with Gaô as the one he fought 1000 years ago, and he ask Gaô to help him fight him. Gaô starts a stupid speech about loving of his country and such, and they both begin to fight the demon (wotoko no sekai, as they say); then blank (double KO?) and a woman runs to Unpi and he says "sorry... I made you wait long enough"
Gedô's ending : he goes to eat Rimururu, when a woman runs and protect her, saying "stop, daddy!". She's Gedô's daughter (when he was still human), Hakana. she asks him to come back to their village, to stop eating humans, she will make her all the rice he wants, and she will never resent him for what he did ; anyway, there's no one left in their village, so they will be together. You see Gedô's memory are coming back, the girl jumps to his chest... and the screen fades to black, and... Gedô says ( ;ﾟДﾟ)!
And it seems that the first people Gedô ate was his own sons, so that girl deserves it if what I think happens happens. She even says she's pregnant before jumping on her father. HE EATS CHILDREN, YOU STUPID BITCH!
Oh! Actually, that Hakana is the woman who adopted Shizumaru! And her husband (and everyone else in the village I guess) is killed by Gaô. Well,she didn't have much chance to survive anyway...
In his ending, Shizumaru goes back home with his money, when someone comes and calls him "yaiba" ("shizumaru" no "maru"). He seems to be a survivor of Zankurô's massacre too, but Shizumaru doesn't want to follow him, says his name is Shizumaru and go to find his adoptive parents. (There is another ending where Hakana tries to kill him, his inner demon awakes and he kills her, but it may be a fake. or his bad ending.)
In Tamtam's ending, actually Tamtam is not Tamtam. Tamtam was beaten by Gaô in his scenario, and the rest was the mask who took Tamtam's appearance to continue. Then it goes back on Tamtam and Tamtam comes back to life. Tamtam. Tamtam is not sure this is Tamtam's true ending, so Tamtam shouldn't believe it right now.
Suija beats the demon (I can't read his name.. yami- ki(katakana)-sumeragi... Ankikô?) and steals the thingie to fusion with a human, and, Oh! Sôgetsu appears! He goes to fusion with him, but Sôgetsu has Hazuki with him, and with her help, he seals Suija in his sword (I guess Enja's ending is nearly the same?)
Basara : Kagaribi continue to drag him to new fights, but he says he killed the demon and doesn't feel the need to fight anymore (???? Did they change the demon's identity from Zankurô to the demon of Gaô?). She says people who are dead with a heart full of hate will continue to hang around him, then make him watch the time of their death and... Actually, the one who killed Kagaribi is not the "demon", it's Basara himself. Basara screams, and Kagaribi asks for his help, and repeats that people who are dead with a heart full of hate will continue to hang around him.
Well, I knew he couldn't have a happy ending, but this one is... Whao.
Anyway, I guess they decided to erase at least the Zankurô ark of the story, if not all the story and begin again from scratch (SS "5"? Ha!). If we don't try to link it to other games (with the Kazama brothers and Charlotte's hair problems), I think the scenario is doing pretty good. At least no one is killed by Tôdô and Mai, and they all seem to have drawings made especially for the endings, which is quite rare lately (before SvC... only Kikaiô had it, right?). But most of the character having a really, really bad ending is quite disturbing... Do they all have hidden good endings? sequel? no sequel?
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| Nate
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| "Re(1):Samurai Spirits 0 endings (SPOILERS)" , posted Fri 10 Oct 22:54
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Gedô's ending : he goes to eat Rimururu, when a woman runs and protect her, saying "stop, daddy!". She's Gedô's daughter (when he was still human), Hakana. she asks him to come back to their village, to stop eating humans, she will make her all the rice he wants, and she will never resent him for what he did ; anyway, there's no one left in their village, so they will be together. You see Gedô's memory are coming back, the girl jumps to his chest... and the screen fades to black, and... Gedô says ( ;ﾟДﾟ)!
And it seems that the first people Gedô ate was his own sons, so that girl deserves it if what I think happens happens. She even says she's pregnant before jumping on her father. HE EATS CHILDREN, YOU STUPID BITCH!
Dammit. I really wanted him to eat Rimururu. No fair.
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| iggy 1854th Post
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| "Re(2):Samurai Spirits 0 endings (SPOILERS)" , posted Sat 11 Oct 03:20:
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Dammit. I really wanted him to eat Rimururu. No fair.
Hey, maybe it's his bad ending and he really eats her in his good one.
Rugal : Hey, I put SPOILERS in the title, don't blame me!
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I don't see why they'd bother making it a prequel if it wasn't connected, after all. ^_^
I really wouldn't mind if it was not a sequel but a re-telling from scratch, like SF Zero 3. It would mean a sequel (Samurai Spirits One ?) would see Amakusashirô appear with a few others old chara, and would be likely to have Mizuki as a boss, and I mean, Mizuki. Rashôjin Mizuki, best boss ever. If they continue and add the other characters (interesting rasetsus + missing characters from Shin SS, then new rasetsus and new characters from the 64 games), they have at least me as a supporter. And I like almost all the new characters except Yoshitora, even Sankurô has a funny face and helpers.
SS's storyline has already many incoherences and problem (killing Nako in the second game was NOT a clever idea), so if they do a new series and the series is coherent with itself, and (surprise!) manage to be made of good games, I'm sold.
(for the "good games" part, I have the feeling those who scream "kusoge" say it because it's a very unusual, not combo-friendly game, with (too?) many not very usefull subsystems. I think the learning curve of the game should be quite slow, since the subsystem all seems to have their utility at their time, so you can take your time and learn them one after an other (together with your character), they are less vital then the cancel systems of GG, for example.
I CANT' FREEKING WAIT FOR THIS GAME.
(I changed Rimu's ending in my first post)
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| Siegfried 295th Post
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| "Re(3):Samurai Spirits 0 endings (SPOILERS)" , posted Sat 11 Oct 06:53
Iggy: SFZero 3 is not a retelling of anything. That's what happened between SFA2 and SSF2T.
And the Samurai Shodown games take place in this order: SS0, SS1, SS3, SS4, SS2, Samurai Tamashii, Asura Zanmaden, SS3D (PSone). All of them are "official" even though continuity problems may exist.
Besides, like all other fighting games, it's not like all endings happen. Kusaregedo might very well eat Rimururu in one ending, it's not like that would rewrite the entire story. IF Kusaregedo were to defeat Gao before everyone else, it might have happened. But Rimururu is alive in 1789 so it obviously didn't happen.
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| iggy 1855th Post
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| "Re(5):Samurai Spirits 0 endings (SPOILERS)" , posted Sat 11 Oct 14:13:
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I think she found him in an abandoned village where everyone was killed as well.
No, he's her only friend from her birth.
The very existence of characters who shouldn't be here (Rimu, Basara), Basara's ending, Galford's abduction, the fact that neither the ainu sisters and the kazama brothers are actually bros and sis... that sounds like a new story for me. Galford won't fit in Samusupi 1 after this, Nako and Rera and Haomaru with Rasetsumaru and Kibagami around won't fit well either, Basara won't fit in Samusupi 3 and 4... what else? Oh, Charlotte's hair. Right.
Anyway, I don't care, I didn't like the story of the first 4 games much, and this one really hooked me, so I prefer it to be this way. 2 new endings : Gaira gets scolded by Nicotine who crops his hair, and Ukyo's:
Yumeji asks how he/she could look at his/her mother's face after teaming up with Gaô, and asks Ukyô to have pity of him/her,take his/her head and to burry it under the pine of the Koronouchi house.
Ukyô stays still.
Hiken sasameyuki.
Yumeji's topknot (???) falls as Ukyô says a haiku (quite good, in my illiterate opinion) with Yumeji's name, and leaves, telling him/her to live. Then he reads a waka, spits blood (Aaaah!) and staff roll.
Yumeji's sex is still not clearly said, but she seems to have breasts in Ukyô's ending. I guess she will be playable, and if she has an ending, it will be explained there...
And by the way, Genchan meets Sankurô in his ending, and refuses to team with him.
EDIT : Fun fact : Yoshitora has a special winning quote, "Ehehe... Horetaze!" (I felt in love!)(again?) against Nako, Rimu, Rera, Mina and... Shizumaru.
By the way, am I the only one interested by what I say here? or by the game itself?
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| RugalBernstein 4642th Post
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| "Re(6):Samurai Spirits 0 endings (SPOILERS)" , posted Sat 11 Oct 15:43
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No, he's her only friend from her birth.
The very existence of characters who shouldn't be here (Rimu, Basara), Basara's ending, Galford's abduction, the fact that neither the ainu sisters and the kazama brothers are actually bros and sis... that sounds like a new story for me. Galford won't fit in Samusupi 1 after this, Nako and Rera and Haomaru with Rasetsumaru and Kibagami around won't fit well either, Basara won't fit in Samusupi 3 and 4... what else? Oh, Charlotte's hair. Right.
Charlotte's hair is short in four, too. ;D There's no reason Rimururu couldn't be in it, even if she'd be pretty young, and Basara fits fine still; his scenario even has him being sucked back in time. It's stupid, but it's how they explain it, anyway. Since "time travel" is involved, you can't even tell if Kagaribi sent him back before or after the events of SS 3 and 4. See, this this is why exactly why fighting game storylines suck. :D Retroactive changes!! The only thing that I think is REALLY stupid is the thing with Enja and Suija being Kazuki and Sougetsu's parents. Damn, I want this game to ship NOW, I want it!!!! >_<
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| iggy 1855th Post
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| "Re(7):Samurai Spirits 0 endings (SPOILERS)" , posted Sun 12 Oct 03:52
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Charlotte's hair is short in four, too.
That's the problem : she cuts her hairs in 2, who is supposed to happen after 3 and 4... (and longa fter 0).
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See, this this is why exactly why fighting game storylines suck. :D Retroactive changes!! The only thing that I think is REALLY stupid is the thing with Enja and Suija being Kazuki and Sougetsu's parents. Damn, I want this game to ship NOW, I want it!!!!
I don't know, if they erase all the games before and re-tell them well, it's the best thing that could happen to the series (especially if they go to Yuga and we get everyone from the game in 2D). A little like they regullary do in comic books, when they start Spiderman or the X men from scratch over and over again, like parallel universes.
2 other endings : Enja has an ending where he takes Kazuki's body. I guess, if they all have 2 endings, Kazuki's bad and Enja's good (and Suija/Sôgetsu's) are Enja taking his son's body, and vice-versa.
Rera says something like "we two are one", then she turns back to Nakoruru (probably travelling in time to play some Pop'n music), then Nako's normal ending flows. The comicket of Winter will be samurai friendly.
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| iggy 1859th Post
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| "Re(9):Samurai Spirits 0 endings (SPOILERS)" , posted Mon 13 Oct 02:51:
character move list
Edit : Ha! Actually, Gaira gets attacked by every non-returning characters except Chamcham : Genan, Nicotine, Wanko, Assquake and sieger, who shout "why are you in the game and not us? - what do you have that we don't! - Hair! He has hair! Crop him!"
Rasetsumaru's ending is classy, surprising for the character (Yumeji (who apparently became a nun) kills him, then leaves, and the bodyless head says "hehe, now I have 2 people to kill!") Oh, and Hayate and Tôdô appear in Kyôshirô's ending.
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| DKW
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| "Re(1):Samurai Spirits 0 endings (SPOILERS)" , posted Sun 19 Oct 15:35
Well, it looks like not-SNK (I'm pretty sure it's still "Playmore") had decided to make a complete break from the original series and just do whatever they want.
Good. IMHO, introducing a spurious "prequel" element in the original series (and it's not like you can really tell, anyway) was a flat-out debacle, and it'd be virtually impossible to jibe zero with all four games, no matter which order you put them in. Plus you gotta explain why all these characters just, well, vanish off the face of the earth in the not-so-distant future.
Clean slate. Keep moving forward and forget about the past (er, "future"). Worked for SFA, works here.
Man, now I really hope one of my arcades picks this up.
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