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"Best underrated game...(cont.)" , posted Sat 27 Sep 05:45:post reply


...that was underrated by the hardcore gaming community for seemingly no other reason than it was popular with the mainstream gaming community.

I'll start:

FF7.





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"Re(1):Best underrated game..." , posted Sat 27 Sep 06:12post reply


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"Re(1):Best underrated game..." , posted Sat 27 Sep 06:20post reply


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"Re(2):Best underrated game..." , posted Sat 27 Sep 08:45post reply


My list of underrated favorites is too long to list...

I'll just mention KOF 2001 and leave it at that.





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"Re(1):Best underrated game...(cont.)" , posted Sat 27 Sep 09:14post reply


Hmmm... Soul Calibur?

Many people said that it was "much simpler than Tekken", thus making it worse. I don't agree. Simpler doesn't equal to worse.


But I don't know if this is a good example...





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"Re(1):Best underrated game...(cont.)" , posted Sat 27 Sep 11:44post reply


quote:
...that was underrated by the hardcore gaming community for seemingly no other reason than it was popular with the mainstream gaming community.

I'll start:

FF7.



How is FF7 underrated... The hardcore gaming community I know didn't underrate it... I think if anything everyone overrated it, but oh well. I don't know what I'd say was underrated by harcore gamers because mainstream like it, but I know of an underrated game....

Earthbound (Mother 2)






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"Re(3):Best underrated game..." , posted Sat 27 Sep 11:52post reply


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My list of underrated favorites is too long to list...

I'll just mention KOF 2001 and leave it at that.



Agreed. 2K1's gameplay is so underrated. Maybe PS2 version will fix the art and music problem. Another would be Sakura Taisen Hanagumi Columns 2 game. The best puzzle game ever. Well, next to magical drop 3.





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"Re(4):Best underrated game..." , posted Sat 27 Sep 12:02post reply


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My list of underrated favorites is too long to list...

I'll just mention KOF 2001 and leave it at that.


Agreed. 2K1's gameplay is so underrated. Maybe PS2 version will fix the art and music problem. Another would be Sakura Taisen Hanagumi Columns 2 game. The best puzzle game ever. Well, next to magical drop 3.


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"Re(5):Best underrated game..." , posted Sat 27 Sep 12:11post reply


Street Fighter EX + A

Im not a fighting games freak at all but its tutorial/practice mode with missions, its OST, combo chaining system and the introduction of very remarcable characters in SF story...these reasons are more than enough for me to add it to this list

And...hehe, Tail Concerto. One of the, IMO; better titles for PSX (from Bandai!!) wich was absolutely underrated.






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"Re(6):Best underrated game..." , posted Sat 27 Sep 12:46post reply


quote:
Street Fighter EX + A

Im not a fighting games freak at all but its tutorial/practice mode with missions, its OST, combo chaining system and the introduction of very remarcable characters in SF story...these reasons are more than enough for me to add it to this list

And...hehe, Tail Concerto. One of the, IMO; better titles for PSX (from Bandai!!) wich was absolutely underrated.



Time Killers? No wait thats overrated. Still blew my mind when i saw it in waterslide arcade in canada. Ahhh the good old days....





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"Re(6):Best underrated game..." , posted Sat 27 Sep 12:46post reply


Soul Calibur and FF7... underrated? You don't mean overrated? Because both of those games, though good, got a lot more positive press than they deserved, and have a rabid, vocal, and sometimes very annoying fanbase each. Well, I don't know about the "real" SC community, but I've heard people talking about SC and SC2 in arcades and on... shudder, GameFAQs, and it made me cringe. And the FF7 fanbase... well, I think we all know what the WAI WAI SEPHIROTH WA KAWAII ***^_^**** cloud+sephirothsex+aeriscorpsesex fanbase can be like. I have the lovely honor of being semi-active in a lot of art-centered communities, and FF7 fans are still as annoying as they always were.

Don't get me wrong, the game was great. It's just the fanfic writers that get me crazy, sometimes.

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Street Fighter EX + A

Im not a fighting games freak at all but its tutorial/practice mode with missions, its OST, combo chaining system and the introduction of very remarcable characters in SF story...these reasons are more than enough for me to add it to this list



Good call. This is the only SFEX game I dug, but I did like it a lot. Graphics were pretty bad... like all the other EX games. Zangief looked like some kind of battery-operated robot. But I did like some of the new characters... like Skullomania! I love that guy. Always wanted to see him in 2D...

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And...hehe, Tail Concerto. One of the, IMO; better titles for PSX (from Bandai!!) wich was absolutely underrated.



Again, right on. This game wasn't the best game ever, but it was very charming and very fun... a lot more endearing than most "bigger" productions I've played in the last few years.

Games I find severely underrated...

GBA:
Wario Ware
This game should have sold GBAs... I get the feeling a lot of the mainstream ignored it. I could be wrong, but... A lot of my friends didn't even want to give it a chance, but when I sat them down with it and the GB Player, they dug it.

PS2:
Sky Odyssey
First gen flying game next to nobody played. Last summer, my at-the-time girlfriend bought me a copy of it at random, as she heard me mention it once... it got to be extremely rare by this point, and I was really excited... but I had no clue how much fun it was actually going to be! It's a really great little game, and if you do find it, it'll only run you about $10. Excellent. If you liked Pilotwings, you'll love it.

Yanya Caballista: City Skater
Okay, so it's not the best skateboarding game ever... but it is a lot of insane fun with a messed-up plot and fun villains. Plus the fingerboard controller is a very cool novelty... though it's a lot easier to play without.

Winback
Improved port of the N64 game... hell, I still need a copy of this. Rented it once, it's pretty damn fun. It's like a cross between MGS and a third person Time Crisis, really. You spend a lot of time hiding behind an object, jumping out, returning fire, then going back. Doesn't sound like a lot of fun, but it really is.

Xbox:
Indiana Jones
This is a great action/adventure game! Why hasn't anyone else played it?! I wish I owned a copy... I ran up some vicious late fees on it. And if you like the engine in Indy, you'd like Buffy, which came before it, and is also an excellent game, whether you like the series or not. Though, the girl they got to be a Sarah Michelle Gellar soundalike is awful.

JSRF
JSR fans seem to look down on this, though, to me, it played better than the original in every way possible. Everyone else seemed to ignore it. But it's a really awesome game... very stylish, and much faster than the first... though, much easier too.

Gunvalkyrie
Another Sega Xbox game... one no one but me liked! The control is kinda tough to master, but once you do, this game isn't as impossible as everyone said it was. Pretty fun, though mindless, largely. Cool premise and designs. Reminds me of Starship Troopers sometimes...

NG:
Windjammers


Anyway, I'm sure there's plenty of games we missed... let's come up with some more. Wheeeeeeee! This is my first Saturday where I can afford to do absolutely nothing that I've had all semester. I'm loving it.





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"Re(7):Best underrated game..." , posted Sat 27 Sep 12:50post reply


Guilty Gear is pretty under-rated in the states.

Boktai is pretty good, but no one has seemed to pay enough attention to it :/





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"Re(8):Best underrated game..." , posted Sat 27 Sep 12:54post reply


quote:
Guilty Gear is pretty under-rated in the states.

Boktai is pretty good, but no one has seemed to pay enough attention to it :/



What's Boktai ?






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"Re(9):Best underrated game..." , posted Sat 27 Sep 13:13post reply


Darkstalkers Darkstalkers Darkstalkers Darkstalkers Darkstalkers......and did I mention Darkstalkers? Think so.

I loved this game,it introduced me to Talbain,and the rest of the DS cast.






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"Re(7):Best underrated game..." , posted Sat 27 Sep 13:29post reply


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Soul Calibur and FF7... underrated? You don't mean overrated? Because both of those games, though good, got a lot more positive press than they deserved, and have a rabid, vocal, and sometimes very annoying fanbase each. Well, I don't know about the "real" SC community, but I've heard people talking about SC and SC2 in arcades and on... shudder, GameFAQs, and it made me cringe. And the FF7 fanbase... well, I think we all know what the WAI WAI SEPHIROTH WA KAWAII ***^_^**** cloud+sephirothsex+aeriscorpsesex fanbase can be like. I have the lovely honor of being semi-active in a lot of art-centered communities, and FF7 fans are still as annoying as they always were.

Don't get me wrong, the game was great. It's just the fanfic writers that get me crazy, sometimes.





its people like that that make ff7 look stupid, it's probably one of my favorite ff's (next to ff6 and ff4).





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"Re(7):Best underrated game..." , posted Sat 27 Sep 13:30post reply


quote:
Soul Calibur and FF7... underrated? You don't mean overrated? Because both of those games, though good, got a lot more positive press than they deserved, and have a rabid, vocal, and sometimes very annoying fanbase each. Well, I don't know about the "real" SC community, but I've heard people talking about SC and SC2 in arcades and on... shudder, GameFAQs, and it made me cringe. And the FF7 fanbase... well, I think we all know what the WAI WAI SEPHIROTH WA KAWAII ***^_^**** cloud+sephirothsex+aeriscorpsesex fanbase can be like. I have the lovely honor of being semi-active in a lot of art-centered communities, and FF7 fans are still as annoying as they always were.

Don't get me wrong, the game was great. It's just the fanfic writers that get me crazy, sometimes.

Games I find severely underrated...

GBA:
Wario Ware
This game should have sold GBAs... I get the feeling a lot of the mainstream ignored it. I could be wrong, but... A lot of my friends didn't even want to give it a chance, but when I sat them down with it and the GB Player, they dug it.


But what sabo meant wasn't games underrated by the mainstream but by the hardcore players BECAUSE they were being popular in the mainstream.

I don't know about SC but FF7 would be one indeed.

And I'm afraid I can't add any other game to the list ^_^U.





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"Re(8):Best underrated game..." , posted Sat 27 Sep 13:42post reply


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its people like that that make ff7 look stupid, it's probably one of my favorite ff's (next to ff6 and ff4



Yeah... same with me. FF6 is still my favorite, but FF4 and FF7 are close to it.

quote:

But what sabo meant wasn't games underrated by the mainstream but by the hardcore players BECAUSE they were being popular in the mainstream.

I don't know about SC but FF7 would be one indeed.

And I'm afraid I can't add any other game to the list ^_^U.



Oh... right. Looks like this thread totally lost focus since then. Wheeeee!





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"Re(9):Best underrated game..." , posted Sat 27 Sep 14:23post reply


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its people like that that make ff7 look stupid, it's probably one of my favorite ff's (next to ff6 and ff4


Yeah... same with me. FF6 is still my favorite, but FF4 and FF7 are close to it.


Agreed. Mines are 7 & 6, though.





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"Re(10):Best underrated game..." , posted Sat 27 Sep 14:44post reply


I'm glad I'm not the only one that liked SFEX+@. The game had some flaws but it also had a fun engine. The latter games in the series didn't really excite me but the first one (after the two upgrades!) was great. Sigh sigh sigh. I need to buy a used copy of that game (again!)






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"Re(8):Best underrated game..." , posted Sat 27 Sep 14:48post reply


FFVII? i don't underrate that game solely because of its undying popularity with the masses. it's simply a decent rpg with a neat cast of characters, but i won't go to the extent of calling it the greatest rpg ever, because imo it's not. poor dialogue, character development, and a magic system that's way too flexible makes the game less than a brilliant piece of work to me.

anyway, i can't think of a game hardcore gamers underrate solely because it's popular with the mainstream. there should be some real reason that makes one find a game less than stellar than just "everyone likes it."





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"Re(1):Best underrated game...(cont.)" , posted Sat 27 Sep 14:59post reply


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"Re(2):Best underrated game...(cont.)" , posted Sat 27 Sep 20:37:post reply


This thread is flying over a lot of peoples heads.

Requirements for a game to be nominated in this thread:

- It must be AT LEAST be currently rentable at Blockbuster Video.

- It must have sold very well, and the average mullet-headed kid playing the gamecube demo at wal-mart must have heard of it, and liked it.

- Hardcore gamers on internet BBSes such as this one must generally think the game is "overrated." (and thus, if you really like the game, they are underrating it. this is where the thread title comes from.)

Now name some of the games that fit the criteria above, that you think deserve the praise and success given to them by the mainstream gaming community.

FF7 and Soul Calibur are good choices.

Basically, name some games that sold like gangbusters, and deserved to do so, despite the fact that most hardcore internet fans consider it overrated.





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"Re(2):Best underrated game...(cont.)" , posted Sat 27 Sep 20:59post reply


quote:
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"Re(3):Best underrated game...(cont.)" , posted Sat 27 Sep 23:32post reply


since sabo's definition of underrated is confusing me, i will use the more general one. (great but generally unappreciated games)


Megaman Legends series
Gitaroo Man
Ico (even though this was kind of overhyped by stupid gaming press thinking they are "avant-garde" and "cool", it really is a great game)

And I don't know if this could work, but I never hear anyone talk about the Last Blade 2 anymore, but I think its a great game.





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"Re(3):Best underrated game...(cont.)" , posted Sat 27 Sep 23:40post reply


well I think the most underated game is TLOZ:Wind Waker!
even thought it got good reviwes and a pefect score from famitsu, I still think alot of people didn't play it, I wounder how many people played and finished the game on this board ?
I know almost 15 people who loved ocarina of time , and hated The wind waker just because it look kiddy too bad they missed alot.





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"Re(4):Best underrated game...(cont.)" , posted Sun 28 Sep 00:01post reply


Capcom v.s SNK 1...classic gameplay, best backgrounds for a Capcom or SNK game in YEARS, excellent OST, original announcer voice, while few, 2 endings that give nods to the two franchises.





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"Re(5):Best underrated game...(cont.)" , posted Sun 28 Sep 00:03post reply


quote:
Capcom v.s SNK 1...classic gameplay, best backgrounds for a Capcom or SNK game in YEARS, excellent OST, original announcer voice, while few, 2 endings that give nods to the two franchises.


yeah CvS was so good, yet alot of people hated the classic gameplay.





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"ridiculous" , posted Sun 28 Sep 03:51:post reply


All games are overrated. They are a waste of time, and we all know it.


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"Re(4):Best underrated game...(cont.)" , posted Sun 28 Sep 11:46post reply


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well I think the most underated game is TLOZ:Wind Waker!
even thought it got good reviwes and a pefect score from famitsu, I still think alot of people didn't play it, I wounder how many people played and finished the game on this board ?
I know almost 15 people who loved ocarina of time , and hated The wind waker just because it look kiddy too bad they missed alot.



Yeah, I love it. I have people claim to me they don't think it was innovative (like I care, as long as it's fun) or they complain about the sea travel or anything else and claim it had a predictable story and claim they had no problem with the graphics, when I think that is exactly their problem. I know these people would've loved it if it was exactly like OoT with improved graphics. And then I know people who hate it because of the graphics and will admit it. And if people don't like it, that is their choice, and that's fine, but I don't appreciate them trying to feed me bullcrap about why they don't like it and why it's not a good game (I think it's a great game). Sorry, I was arguing with someone about it on the Capcom boards so I'm a little touchy about WW right now. I personally think it's one of the best games I've ever played. I didn't find it to be predictable.

I guess FFVII would fit into the topic (thus going against what I said in my other post on this thread), however, I don't underrate it or overrate it, I just hate it (though I did think it was pretty. I just didn't like the story is all). And, as with others opinions of Wind Waker, it is just my opinion.






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"Re(5):Best underrated game...(cont.)" , posted Sun 28 Sep 21:26post reply


I didn't like WW, but then I didn't like OOT either.

Can you rent Disgaea at Blockbuster? If so this is a game which is almost unknown to the masses it seems. The same masses who will likely buy the upcoming FF7 DVD and curse about it's lack of gameplay.





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"Re(8):Best underrated game..." , posted Sun 28 Sep 23:07post reply


Shadow Hearts is one of the most underrated games ever created.





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"Re(1):Best underrated game...(cont.)" , posted Sun 28 Sep 23:14post reply


Herzog Zwei

One of the most innovative and underated games. Pretty much the first RTS. So ahead of its time that it only received average ratings from the games magazines of its time (i remember EGM gave it all 7's and under)