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| Gen 2024th Post
 
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|  "Re(2):Re(10):KOF 2003/3D ...?"
, posted Fri 26 Sep 19:32:
Thanks for the pictures and famitsu links.
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gamespot says something else..
From its stage at the 2003 Tokyo Game Show, SNK Playmore briefly discussed the future of the King of Fighters series. As announced by Sammy back at the AMShow earlier this month, SNK Playmore will be developing the next King of Fighters arcade game for Sammy's Atomiswave hardware. That game only had a working title then, but at the Tokyo Game Show, the title has indeed been confirmed as The King of Fighters 2003.
The company also showed off a short trailer for a new game in the King of Fighters series that is being developed specifically for the PlayStation 2. The trailer didn't show any gameplay, but instead focused on lines of dialogue from some of the game's new characters, who were shown in a cutscene-style pre-rendered polygonal form. This game is currently known by the working title of KOF, and it appears that the game will be a 3D fighter. It will be released sometime in 2004.
For more of GameSpot's coverage from the 2003 Tokyo Game Show
here's the gamespot link:
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/kofworkingtitle/news_6075932.html
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Famitsu article software translation follows:
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- The software for PlayStation 2 "KOF" announces!
It is a shock announcement in a SNK pre IMOA booth! The latest work of the popular fighting game "the THE King OBU Fighters" series which the company is proud of became clear. Having been announced first is software for home video game machines "KOF" which becomes the first in this series. It is under development as software for PlayStation 2, and this software is the summer sale schedule of 2004. I hear that and "KOF" is completely different deployment from the story of old series, and characters also move about by 3D polygon. If the character of old series, such as the same Mino Terry Bogarde, also appears
Also the newest image of the software for ? PlayStation 2 "KOF"! The new character was begun on the image and the same Mino character had also appeared in series. It is pleasure about how these characters move by 3D.
And having been announced next is a game for arcades "the THE king OBU Fighters 2003." This game is a thing that it is the latest work which followed the conventional series and is put on the market by neo-geo. I hear that however, not 3on3 waging war of the former [ system / game ] but a new system is adopted. This game is an operation schedule in a year. The software for PlayStation 2 "KOF", the game for arcades "the THE king OBU Fighters 2003." I will expect both to a follow-up!
? "the THE king OBU Fighters 2003" is a sale schedule in a year at neo-geo as an arcade game. Although the image etc. was not exhibited this time, I hear that it becomes the new game which followed the view of the world of old series.
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Here is a copy of the-magicbox.com 's journalism:
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SNK Playmore announced the release of The King of Fighters 2003 is pushed back to 2004 (and the game name will be changed as well?), the game will no longer use the 3 VS 3 battle system, it will be replaced by a new system.
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Here's Trieu's statement from this link:
www.snk-capcom.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2846
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Uh, more news?!!! Yeah, clean up time.
With all the craziness going on between Sammy, SNK and Capcom, we had to dig for more news...this time, confirmed!!
As my ex-girlfriend keeps saying, "Let's start all over again, yeah?" And I keep replying, "yeah, sure, let's give it another try."
So here goes:
King of Fighters 2003 WILL be on the Neo Geo MVS/Jamma System, not the Atomiswave. KOF 2003 will be released in December as we previously announced weeks ago.
The King of Fighters Sammy will be displaying on their Atomiswave will be their own version, with no specific details on what it is just yet, but it will definitely not be KOF 2003.
Also, this is the ONLY title that has been officially announced to appear on the Atomiswave. No other future SNK Playmore title is agreed upon, so don't trade in that Neo just yet.
So expect the SNK Playmore line up for this year to be:
Samurai Shodown Zero
Metal Slug 5
King of Fighters 2003
Sometimes, we just have to confirm, confirmed news.
It's a jungle out there when it comes to news, but someone has to report it.
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| Sensenic 792th Post
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| "Re(3):Re(10):Re(10):KOF 2003/3D ...?" , posted Sat 27 Sep 14:29:
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I think that SNK could be more innovative if they want to. There are still things that could be done with 2D fighters that haven't been done yet. For example, they could probably develop a 2D fighting game, with 3D rendering, that plays like a 2D fighting game. Animation style could be cell rendered, making the 3D renders look like sprites. There would be no 3D playfield, but your standard 2D field.
I dunno.. just rambling...
Now, just when did you read my mind? You can't go stealing ideas from people like this, you know, I'll sue you for plagiarism! 
Now seriously, even when it's quite a good, easy and simple idea, no one has still done it, AFAIK (if that doesn't mean what I think, I meant: "As Far As I Know" ^_^).
EDIT: To avoid misunderstandings, the idea I mention is not doing a 3D game with 2D-alike playing (already done), but a 2D fighter that uses 3D graphics to give it a more spectacular, hi-res, realistic looks and physics while at the same time rendering it so it gives a 2D effect, as Burning Ranger said. I think it's quite a good idea.
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Hope this 3D KOF doesn't play like Soul Calibur II.
It will probably play like a 2D game with side-stepping, just like all of SNK's earlier 3D fighters, and most of Cap's 3D fighters.
Me thinks so too.
Mwahahaha! I'm gonna murder someone...
How do you say "sushi" in Japanese? :D
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| Burning Ranger 480th Post
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| "Speculation..." , posted Sat 27 Sep 20:39
Theres a lot of speculation going on with the new KOF games. I might add a little fuel to the fire.
The name "The King of Fighters" could mean one of two things:
1) "King of Fighters" was the name of the tournament of the original Fatal Fury game, and I think under sequels. It was a 1 on 1 tournament: no team battle.
2) "The King of Fighters" is the name of the tournament (and the game) which features 3-4 member teams battling it out.
What does this mean? Well, I wouldnt be too surprised if KOF 3D wasn't a team battle game. Heck, for all we know, it could even be a departure from the traditional KOF we all know and do something entirely different.
Looking at the screenshots, I'm reminded of Capcom Fighting All-Stars. In that, Ryu wasn't going to be the main characters: instead the new characters like D.D. and Ingrid were going to be the heroes. What if, for this new KOF, that the new characters are going to be the new focus of the game, and Kyo, Terry, and the others are, like their roles in other KOFs, merely side characters.
Anyway, its too early to tell.
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| NARUTO 1787th Post
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| "Re(2):Additional Images" , posted Sun 28 Sep 01:11
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Looks like "KOF EX + Alpha".
Some series just aren't meant to go 3D...
Thanks Freeter! At last someone who understand what I wish to say!
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And what did you expecting about the future KOFs games ? The "MVS forever" was just an sweet utopia.
I have never said that....
I just say that it can still stay in 2D, not on the MVS. As far I now SF 3rd and GGXX aren't on MVS and are in 2D.
Make a KOF with 40 characters, in SF 3RD graphics quality and GGXX animation and you'll see if nobody wants it!
And IF 3D was the jey off sucsess, why CFAS wasn't one???
It was a lame 3D game, and the same thing with SF 3RD graph will have make a better game....
This sad disease called "turn everything in 3D" is sad....if some game turn better, Driving, FPS, RPG.
Some other goes pityfully bad, Plate-form, Fighting.....
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| ONSLAUGHT 2394th Post
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| "..." , posted Sun 28 Sep 01:23
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Looks like "KOF EX + Alpha".
Some series just aren't meant to go 3D...
Thanks Freeter! At last someone who understand what I wish to say!
And what did you expecting about the future KOFs games ? The "MVS forever" was just an sweet utopia.
I have never said that....
I just say that it can still stay in 2D, not on the MVS. As far I now SF 3rd and GGXX aren't on MVS and are in 2D.
Make a KOF with 40 characters, in SF 3RD graphics quality and GGXX animation and you'll see if nobody wants it!
And IF 3D was the jey off sucsess, why CFAS wasn't one???
It was a lame 3D game, and the same thing with SF 3RD graph will have make a better game....
This sad disease called "turn everything in 3D" is sad....if some game turn better, Driving, FPS, RPG.
Some other goes pityfully bad, Plate-form, Fighting.....
Oh please, shut up!
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| DarkZero 350th Post
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| "Re(1):..." , posted Sun 28 Sep 02:16
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And IF 3D was the jey off sucsess, why CFAS wasn't one???
It was a lame 3D game, and the same thing with SF 3RD graph will have make a better game....
This sad disease called "turn everything in 3D" is sad....if some game turn better, Driving, FPS, RPG.
Some other goes pityfully bad, Plate-form, Fighting.....
Oh please, shut up!
I'm forced to agree with Onslaught. KOF 3D is just an experiment. It is not replacing the 2D KOFs and it is not even counting as an official, sequential KOF. And as far as we know, the game engine could end up using the classic 3D fighting game style seen in Rival Schools and the original Virtua Fighter, which plays like a 2D game with side-stepping (TRANSLATION: Fatal Fury/Guilty Gear Isuka with only two characters).
I also wouldn't call CFAS "a lame 3D game". The last version of CFAS that we saw was a version that was still being developed, and if magazine reviews like EGM's are to be trusted, most new games blow like a hurricane until five minutes before they're shipped.
I can't believe that there's actually someone whining about the death of 2D gaming when we're getting KOF 2k1 for PS2, SvC for PS2, Samurai Spirits Zero for MVS, Metal Slug 5 for MVS, and KOF 2k3 for Atomiswave all in the near feature, IN ADDITION TO Dolphin Blue and Guilty Gear Isuka, as well as this little thing that no one's heard of that I like to call "a GBA", which plays completely unpopular titles like Castlevania, Metroid, and Megaman. MAN, THIS DROUGHT'S MAKING ME THIRSTY!
Burning Ranger:
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Looking at the screenshots, I'm reminded of Capcom Fighting All-Stars. In that, Ryu wasn't going to be the main characters: instead the new characters like D.D. and Ingrid were going to be the heroes. What if, for this new KOF, that the new characters are going to be the new focus of the game, and Kyo, Terry, and the others are, like their roles in other KOFs, merely side characters.
What you're describing sounds sort of like what happened in KOF '99, when the second KOF storyline began and the roster was shaken up, with half the characters being taken out, Kyo and Iori becoming secret characters, and K', Maxima, and NESTS agents taking center stage. And that's made me wonder about something. '97 was the end of the Orochi storyline, '98 was the dream match for that storyline, and '99 was the beginning of the new storyline. '01 supposedly ended the NESTS storyline and '02 capped that storyline off with a dream match, so that means that KOF '03 should shake things up and add new characters. Except this time, KOF 3D is adding new characters and a new storyline at the same time. Will they both feature the same new characters or will we get two different KOFs with two different sets of new characters all in the same year?
And is it me or is the character designer a fan of Big O? Seems like more than just a passing resemblance...
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| Luisinan 471th Post
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| "Re(2):..." , posted Sun 28 Sep 02:34
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What you're describing sounds sort of like what happened in KOF '99, when the second KOF storyline began and the roster was shaken up, with half the characters being taken out, Kyo and Iori becoming secret characters, and K', Maxima, and NESTS agents taking center stage. And that's made me wonder about something. '97 was the end of the Orochi storyline, '98 was the dream match for that storyline, and '99 was the beginning of the new storyline. '01 supposedly ended the NESTS storyline and '02 capped that storyline off with a dream match, so that means that KOF '03 should shake things up and add new characters. Except this time, KOF 3D is adding new characters and a new storyline at the same time. Will they both feature the same new characters or will we get two different KOFs with two different sets of new characters all in the same year?
I'm quite interested in this. KOF has a pretty good story (okay, the second storyline 99-01 was a bit lame) but the game has great characters, so I'm really wondering what they'll do next with it.
I really think SNKPlaymore can do something creative with KOF. For example, Kyo and Iori have gone through great evolutions. Kyo started off as the careless youth with great power and a great destiny- but after completing the Orochi saga he became aimless and even reckless. There's even hints that Kyo is going to the 'dark side'. And then we have Iori who maybe, perhaps is realizing that killing Kyo isn't really the best option. I hope they continue this evolution. Perhaps there may even be a role reversal here with Iori maybe having to save Kyo from his recklessness. Or even having K', the new upstart, putting Kyo back in his place. There's a lot of great themes here and the main characters have rich personalities so I hope they do something- even if it's just a background story to the main focus of the new storyline.
Yeah, I'm just fan ficcing here. The next storyline will probably have a new character hero (like what happened in 99). But maybe SNK will finally take the leap and make the old heroes (Terry, Ryo, Kyo) into boss-type characters. Especially if Kyo becomes a 'dark side' teacher figure. God knows he mistreats Shingo enough when he's a good guy. I can only imagine a lot of fun things if they continue this. I mean, didn't everyone think it was cool when Kyo and Iori 'disappeared' in '99? Yeah, that was neat.
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| Burning Kyo 1821th Post
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|  "Re(3):Additional Images"
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I have never said that....
I just say that it can still stay in 2D, not on the MVS. As far I now SF 3rd and GGXX aren't on MVS and are in 2D.
Make a KOF with 40 characters, in SF 3RD graphics quality and GGXX animation and you'll see if nobody wants it!
And IF 3D was the jey off sucsess, why CFAS wasn't one???
It was a lame 3D game, and the same thing with SF 3RD graph will have make a better game....
This sad disease called "turn everything in 3D" is sad....if some game turn better, Driving, FPS, RPG.
Some other goes pityfully bad, Plate-form, Fighting.....
Je crois aussi que tu fais un amalgame entre KOF 3D et KOF 2003 qui sont des jeux complètement différents (^_^)
KOF 2003 = 2D mais avec un qualité de son et graphic comparable aux GGXX. Et aussi, chai po si tu le sais mais la Atomiswave n'est po faite pour supporter de la 3D à l'origine (comme le disais radish ou chai plus ki plus O), métophoriquement c comme foutre des jeux 3D sur saturn. Même si le system ne consiste plus en un 3 vs 3, ce qui signifie ptet un retour au 4 vs 4, voir 5 vs 5 avec un system bizzare (C T la rumeur a propose du system de 2002). Le jeu est d'abord prévu pour l'arcade puis la ps2 ou autres.
KOF 3D = jeu en 3D comme son nom l'indique.
Il est principalement destiné à la PS2 dans un 1er temps avec ptet aussi une sortie arcade si le jeu est po mal.
La carte utilisé n'a po était précisé.
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| NARUTO 1790th Post
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| "Re(4):Additional Images" , posted Sun 28 Sep 03:58
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Je crois aussi que tu fais un amalgame entre KOF 3D et KOF 2003 qui sont des jeux complètement différents (^_^)
KOF 2003 = 2D mais avec un qualité de son et graphic comparable aux GGXX. Et aussi, chai po si tu le sais mais la Atomiswave n'est po faite pour supporter de la 3D à l'origine (comme le disais radish ou chai plus ki plus O), métophoriquement c comme foutre des jeux 3D sur saturn. Même si le system ne consiste plus en un 3 vs 3, ce qui signifie ptet un retour au 4 vs 4, voir 5 vs 5 avec un system bizzare (C T la rumeur a propose du system de 2002). Le jeu est d'abord prévu pour l'arcade puis la ps2 ou autres.
KOF 3D = jeu en 3D comme son nom l'indique.
Il est principalement destiné à la PS2 dans un 1er temps avec ptet aussi une sortie arcade si le jeu est po mal.
La carte utilisé n'a po était précisé.
non je fais pas d'amalgame, je dit juste qu'une version 3D n'est qu'une mauvaise idée...
je sais que le 2003 est en 2D (grace a dieu...) mais l'idée d'une version 2D me parais complétémént stupide quand on n'a vue les ancient jeux 2D passer a la 3D.
SF ex, Fatal fury 3D sont des Daube infame...aucun interet, graphisme minable, est a quoi bon faire un jeux en 3D si c'est pour y foutre un gamplay 2D????
un VS 3D c'est bien si on explate le mouvement 3D come VF ou SC 2, et dans si style la, tout le system de KOF, boule de feu, DM, combo serais completement inutile ou tres mal adapter..... j'espere que la version 3D se vautre lamentablement...alors il nous feront un derniere saga en 2D en pousant la bete a font.
PS: ONSLAUGHT no offense, but try to respect my opion just like I respect yours. thank you.
PSS: Darkzero, did you've played CFAS????
I did, and even for a beta it was a pityfull game.
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| Time Mage 1639th Post
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| "Re(4):Additional Images" , posted Sun 28 Sep 04:24
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And IF 3D was the jey off sucsess, why CFAS wasn't one???
It was a lame 3D game, and the same thing with SF 3RD graph will have make a better game....
This sad disease called "turn everything in 3D" is sad....if some game turn better, Driving, FPS, RPG.
Some other goes pityfully bad, Plate-form, Fighting.....
Je crois aussi que tu fais un amalgame entre KOF 3D et KOF 2003 qui sont des jeux complètement différents (^_^)
KOF 2003 = 2D mais avec un qualité de son et graphic comparable aux GGXX. Et aussi, chai po si tu le sais mais la Atomiswave n'est po faite pour supporter de la 3D à l'origine (comme le disais radish ou chai plus ki plus O), métophoriquement c comme foutre des jeux 3D sur saturn. Même si le system ne consiste plus en un 3 vs 3, ce qui signifie ptet un retour au 4 vs 4, voir 5 vs 5 avec un system bizzare (C T la rumeur a propose du system de 2002). Le jeu est d'abord prévu pour l'arcade puis la ps2 ou autres.
KOF 3D = jeu en 3D comme son nom l'indique.
Il est principalement destiné à la PS2 dans un 1er temps avec ptet aussi une sortie arcade si le jeu est po mal.
La carte utilisé n'a po était précisé.
I know that sometimes one needs the urge to write in his own language, but that's when things go a little offtopic... At least in my opinion... In this case, I'm quite interested in what you could say, so, please... Could you write in English?
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| Burning Kyo 1823th Post
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| "Re(5):Additional Images" , posted Sun 28 Sep 04:25:
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non je fais pas d'amalgame, je dit juste qu'une version 3D n'est qu'une mauvaise idée...
je sais que le 2003 est en 2D (grace a dieu...) mais l'idée d'une version 2D me parais complétémént stupide quand on n'a vue les ancient jeux 2D passer a la 3D.
SF ex, Fatal fury 3D sont des Daube infame...aucun interet, graphisme minable, est a quoi bon faire un jeux en 3D si c'est pour y foutre un gamplay 2D????
un VS 3D c'est bien si on explate le mouvement 3D come VF ou SC 2, et dans si style la, tout le system de KOF, boule de feu, DM, combo serais completement inutile ou tres mal adapter..... j'espere que la version 3D se vautre lamentablement...alors il nous feront un derniere saga en 2D en pousant la bete a font.
I agree, but maybe is never known that it can be. Moreover if SNK-Playmore has only that to make, throwin' his money by the window, It's so much worse them... but good, it did not think of bad by making a KOF 3D.
PS : Sorry to every people who don't understand french or my engrish. Sometimes, it's already hard to say something in french, so translate that in engrish can give to my message a wrong sense. As for what I said before : It's just I believe that Naruto think KOF '03 = KOF 3D ; so I've explain the differences 'n quote something that Fygee said before : "KOF Atomiswave can't have rich polygons since its going to be 2D.
KOF 3D is going to be a PS2 exclusive, with a possible arcade release afterwards."
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