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| Omar 280th Post
 
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|  "SF2 comic Preview (Adam Warren backup)"
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"The back-up story features an action–packed, no holds barred fight between Chun-Li and Cammy, co-plotted and drawn by another Amerimanga artist Adam Warren. Newsarama caught up with Warren for a first-hand look at the latter’s back-up tale."
Also, Warren says...
"“This is the young(er) Chun-Li from roughly the Street Fighter: Alpha era, sporting the distinctive blue leotard, vest, and running shoes costume from that period. Her motivation's pretty straightforward, in that she's trying desperately to save her beloved father from dire peril... Alas, if you know even rudimentary SF history, it's not giving away very much to say that things don't go very well for poor Chun Li.”
As for Cammy: “Well, this is Cammy during her "still a brainwashed Shadaloo thug" phase, which means that she's wearing what I believe is generally referred to as the ‘ARSF Cammy’ costume... You know, the blue, pinstriped one with the wee cap, armband and long sleeves. In all honesty, I'd have preferred to work with the familiar ‘regular Cammy’ costume, with the red beret and green one-piece and all that, as a tribute to Masahiko Nakahira's excellent and personally influential Cammy manga... But, hey, it was fun to just be able to work with the character at all.”
There's also a preview of the cover and one of the pages done by Warren.
http://newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5799
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| Hungrywolf 2361th Post
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| "Re(2):STEFAN!!!!!" , posted Mon 22 Sep 15:31
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Please, don't let Cammy win this one, because if she does, I can already imagine the big fuzz the Cammyfan.com author is going to make about it.
You mean Stefan. Ignore him, he's an idiot.
Cammyfan.com puts the "fan" back in "fanatic" but, as Hungrywolf noted, it's probably best to avoid the site altogether.
To be quite honest, there are things about the site that are good, but Stefan himself can be quite stupid. Especially when it comes to his unhealthy obsession with Cammy. I mean, I'm a big fan of Blue Mary, but just because she's my favorite female fighter doesn't mean I would justify why she can beat anyone else in all the fighting games universes. There are plenty of people that could beat her, I'm sure. Stefan, however, makes a point to say how "deep" Cammy's life story is when it really isn't and to say how Chun Li sucks and how Cammy could easily beat her (and most others). I nderstand that no one can truly be objective when talking about something they love a lot, but Stefan's bias is extreme. Stefan almost makes me not like Cammy he's so freakin' obsessed.
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| Dr Baghead 2569th Post
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| "Re(3):STEFAN!!!!!" , posted Mon 22 Sep 21:10
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To be quite honest, there are things about the site that are good, but Stefan himself can be quite stupid. Especially when it comes to his unhealthy obsession with Cammy. I mean, I'm a big fan of Blue Mary, but just because she's my favorite female fighter doesn't mean I would justify why she can beat anyone else in all the fighting games universes. There are plenty of people that could beat her, I'm sure. Stefan, however, makes a point to say how "deep" Cammy's life story is when it really isn't and to say how Chun Li sucks and how Cammy could easily beat her (and most others). I nderstand that no one can truly be objective when talking about something they love a lot, but Stefan's bias is extreme. Stefan almost makes me not like Cammy he's so freakin' obsessed.
Since I enjoy putting Stefan down, but Hungrywolf basically said everything I could have only logical and not crass (but ask yourself: is that really worth saying without the liberal use of the term "fucktard")
I just want to add:
People like to think the internet is a means for people to have discussions with others from around the world creating a global community... when Stefan's site is the reality.
Remember the "loud jackass" in your history class who yelled out stuff he thought was funny but no one else did? The internet let's people like him voice their opinions as gosspal truths, and in Stefan's case not except e-mails so the only imput they get is their own.
They force their tiny world view onto others without allowing knowledge to get to them.
So basically a beautiful dream was ruined thanks to Cammyfan much like my ablity to enjoy playing as Bison/Vega's clone.
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| DarkZero 329th Post
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| "Re(6):STEFAN!!!!!" , posted Mon 22 Sep 23:49
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I think that art looks awful. I've always hated adam warrens "aneemay is cool!!11!" style, and its sad that they picked him over more talented artists.
I hate to sound like I'm one of those "Japan iz S0 MUCH BETTAR!!! AMERIC4 IZ TEH SUX0R!!!111" dumbasses, but I have to agree. The average eight year old Dragonball Z fan drawing Gogeta vs. Vegetto fanart entirely in red crayon knows more about moderation in speed lines than this guy does. This guy puts speed lines EVERYWHERE and instead of emphasizing certain key points in the fight, it just makes the whole thing seem ridiculous.
It's like all of the ripoffs of The Matrix that came out between the original and Reloaded. The Matrix was good because it used gimmicks like Bullet Time and phantom limbs somewhat sparingly, using them to emphasize key points of a fight. The ripoffs had slow motion, Bullet Time, and all sorts of weird speed effects every three seconds during every fight and it inevitably turned the whole thing into a joke.
Hopefully, some of these "amerimanga" "artists" will soon learn that "big eyes" does not mean HUGE eyes, that speed lines are to be used sparingly, that backgrounds are NOT a bad thing, and that Cammy should not look like some sort of pug-faced globe-eyed dragon-thing like she does in that third panel. I also secretly hope that one day they will realize that attempting to be intentionally derivative and characterizing your work with the lamest cliches of a foreign nation's entertainment while adding absolutely nothing new might not be a good idea, but I think that's a long shot.
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| suichi
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| "Adam Warren style" , posted Tue 23 Sep 03:56
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Hopefully, some of these "amerimanga" "artists" will soon learn that "big eyes" does not mean HUGE eyes, that speed lines are to be used sparingly, that backgrounds are NOT a bad thing, and that Cammy should not look like some sort of pug-faced globe-eyed dragon-thing like she does in that third panel. I also secretly hope that one day they will realize that attempting to be intentionally derivative and characterizing your work with the lamest cliches of a foreign nation's entertainment while adding absolutely nothing new might not be a good idea, but I think that's a long shot.
Have you seen his earlier works? I know not everyone likes his newer stuff, which is *exactly* what drives him to do it even more. (I've talked about this in person with him at a con) But his earlier Dirty Pair work was actually quite 'normal' looking compared to this. He knows how to get the job done and he's done many works before this, but it's just his newer stuff that looks like this. It's kinda ironic because he said that the newer style was actually influenced from some american artists as well as japanese ones. Especially the big lips thing. And the more people hate it and tell him to stop it, the more he does it.
As much as he uses speedlines nowadays, I'd care to say that I've seen no amercian artists who was better at it than he. And as far as overusing them? Have you seen the Battle Angel series of manga?
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