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| DarkZero 319th Post
 
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|  "Re(1):Nina"
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Why does she look like Superwhore in the concept art, but not in the screenshots? Are they trying to disappoint both the perverts AND the normals?
Anyway, even though I'm not a Tekken fan, the game looks pretty good. My only gripe about it is that she still uses swords, even though she's a Tekken character. Between Devil May Cry, Shinobi, Chaos Legions, and Otogi, we have enough sword-based action games. Can't anyone use their fists? Or an axe? How about a whip? A staff, maybe? ANYTHING but a sword or sword/guns combo?
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| Gojira 1147th Post
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| "Re(2):Nina" , posted Fri 19 Sep 01:02
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Why does she look like Superwhore in the concept art, but not in the screenshots? Are they trying to disappoint both the perverts AND the normals?
No offense, but how can you even TELL what she looks like in the screenshots? Is there a zoom option I'm missing here?
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Anyway, even though I'm not a Tekken fan, the game looks pretty good. My only gripe about it is that she still uses swords, even though she's a Tekken character. Between Devil May Cry, Shinobi, Chaos Legions, and Otogi, we have enough sword-based action games. Can't anyone use their fists? Or an axe? How about a whip? A staff, maybe? ANYTHING but a sword or sword/guns combo?
I'm surprised there's even a sword in there. I'm pretty sure that's just to show that there are weapons to use. It doesn't mean that she only uses swords or guns. It looks like she's not even armed in half of these shots.
Anyway, can somebody translate the System section? Or at least tell me what that 5-part picture at the bottom is all about... (it looks like a bomb going off in someone's ribcage?)
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| DarkZero 320th Post
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| "Re(3):Nina" , posted Fri 19 Sep 03:15
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Why does she look like Superwhore in the concept art, but not in the screenshots? Are they trying to disappoint both the perverts AND the normals?
No offense, but how can you even TELL what she looks like in the screenshots? Is there a zoom option I'm missing here?
I just looked closely and noticed that instead of flesh, red, and black colors, there was nothing but dark blue and what appeared to be silver: a dark blue catsuit. But you won't have to do the same thing, because Magic Box has a huge new post devoted to NINA now. All of the screenshots, however, are from Impress Gamewatch, which is hosting tons of concept art and screenshots. There's also some additional concept art which has Nina in the blue catsuit. Does she have multiple costumes in the game or something (TEKKEN X-2: LAST MISSION)?
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I'm surprised there's even a sword in there. I'm pretty sure that's just to show that there are weapons to use. It doesn't mean that she only uses swords or guns. It looks like she's not even armed in half of these shots.
Yeah, now that I've seen more of the screenshots, I realize that. Hopefully the sword won't overtake the guns, melee fighting, and other weapons like it did in Devil May Cry and Metal Gear Solid 2.
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Anyway, can somebody translate the System section? Or at least tell me what that 5-part picture at the bottom is all about... (it looks like a bomb going off in someone's ribcage?)
Some of the older information from the day this game was announced indicated that it would be a move that would let you go berserk and kill everything in a certain radius if you hit the right buttons, acting a lot like the defensive bombs that you get in many shooters and in Starfox. Now Magic Box is saying that it's a targeted, individual attack that's useful for killing certain bosses. So I have no idea what it does, but it's probably one of those two things.
And yeah, it looks like a total ripoff of Romeo Must Die, but I was sort of disappointed that I never saw that effect used in anything else after RMD. X-Ray effects are great for breaking bones and impaling organs with them. They create more of a cinematic money shot than just some guy flying back and saying "Oof!" before he hits the ground and stops moving.
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| DarkZero 322th Post
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| "Re(1):That's new to me" , posted Fri 19 Sep 17:49
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It's new to me that you can play with a sword in MGS2 except for the last 10 minutes of gameplay which certainly won't qualify as overtaking and in devil may cry it's a symbiosis between the sword(s) and the guns you won't come far if you only use one.
Towards the end of both games, the game essentially tells you, "Use this sword or else", forcing you to use the ninja's sword or Sparda. Unfortunately, lots of games make this sort of decision for you, including 2D games like Megaman Zero and Aria of Sorrow, whose swords are much more powerful than all other weapons. And yes, Devil May Cry lets you use both the sword and the guns at the same time, but I was actually referring to the fact that when you receive Sparda, the game basically forces you to stop using Ifrit's melee attacks simply because Ifrit is much, much weaker and takes forever to kill the later enemies in every mode.
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| CPSIII
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| "Re(2):That's new to me" , posted Fri 19 Sep 18:25
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Towards the end of both games, the game essentially tells you, "Use this sword or else", forcing you to use the ninja's sword or Sparda. Unfortunately, lots of games make this sort of decision for you, including 2D games like Megaman Zero and Aria of Sorrow, whose swords are much more powerful than all other weapons. And yes, Devil May Cry lets you use both the sword and the guns at the same time, but I was actually referring to the fact that when you receive Sparda, the game basically forces you to stop using Ifrit's melee attacks simply because Ifrit is much, much weaker and takes forever to kill the later enemies in every mode.
In Metal Gear it's not torwards the end it's the last fight and in Devil May Cry you don't have to use Sparda at all.
As I already said in MGS2 it's the LAST fight and you have to use the sword story wise and because you don't have any other weapons. I got no problem with that but more later on in this post.
In DMC you don't have to use Sparda, for the Mundus fight, in the first encounter you don't use any weapons, in the second I used Ifrit with it's Hadouken :P shooting ability and the grenade launcher and in the last fight you're better off with Air Raid anyway. As for the last opponents, Ifrit is actually quite essential since you can do some heavy damage on those ice lizards with it's air special. So it's not forced at all.
Still if it would be the case I don't see how the very last part of those games make swords overtake the gameplay! It isn't even remotely true.
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| DarkZero 323th Post
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| "Re(3):That's new to me" , posted Sat 20 Sep 02:10
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In DMC you don't have to use Sparda, for the Mundus fight, in the first encounter you don't use any weapons, in the second I used Ifrit with it's Hadouken :P shooting ability and the grenade launcher and in the last fight you're better off with Air Raid anyway. As for the last opponents, Ifrit is actually quite essential since you can do some heavy damage on those ice lizards with it's air special. So it's not forced at all.
Still if it would be the case I don't see how the very last part of those games make swords overtake the gameplay! It isn't even remotely true.
Well, I guess I'm wrong then, and DMC is a much more varied game than I had thought. I found Ifrit much too weak later in the game (with the obvious exception of the monsters that are weak to it) because of its lack of basic distance and power compared to Sparda and I absolutely hated the Grenade Launcher. It was mostly Alastor or Sparda with Ebony & Ivory throughout both Normal and Hard modes for me. When I tried to use Ifrit against those annoying yelping things I always got my ass kicked before I could get in close, but it sounds like that's my fault.
And yes, the MGS2 claim was shaky, but regardless of that, the whole thing was wrong, anyway. The larger Impress Gamewatch pics show that you can still perform many different physical attacks while wielding almost any the current weapons, including the assumably unwieldy or overly powerful weapons like the dual katanas and what appears to be a shotgun. I'm also pleased that they're reviving the dual analog stick controls that MGS2 used for the ninja sword. Those controls were intuitive enough that they really deserved to have a dedicated action game built around them.
If I only gave a damn about Tekken, this could be the perfect game!
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