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| DarkZero 280th Post
 
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|  "Re(4):RIAA Sues 12 year old girl.."
, posted Tue 9 Sep 20:40
The RIAA claims that they are only going after those who have downloaded 1,000 or more songs, but they used to say that they would prosecute P2P users randomly, even if they had just downloaded one song. They only changed their tune in the last couple of weeks because it looked like some US senators might support a law targeted toward the RIAA. Whether or not they are actually telling the truth right now is not as clear as you make it sound, especially since we're talking about people that regularly lie to the press. A few months to a year ago, they told every press outlet they could find that they busted a "major piracy operation" using 500 or so CD burners. The fine print in their press release noted that they consider CD burners above a certain burn speed to be more than one CD burner, or possibly even three or four, and the speed was, of course, absurdly low.
Also, some of the stories about the girl have noted that she used Kazaa in a rather unusual way. Instead of saving all of the songs that she downloaded, she would download them, play them for awhile, and then delete them, essentially using the service as an internet radio station. If I catalogued all of the songs that I had listened to on the radio once or twice in the last month or so, I'm sure it would amount to AT LEAST a thousand. And if I added the number of songs that I had downloaded on P2P services, listened to, and immediately discarded, I'm sure that the number of songs on my hard drive would double.
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| Juke Joint Jezebel 2254th Post
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|  "Re(4):when i was 12 years old i stole candy"
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i've got some questions concerning property rights and sickening percentages for anyone that can answer them. first, lemme dumb it down a bit
pirates are stealing songs. as a result, the record companies are losing money. and so they perform a Satanic ritual and summon the RIAA, a lobbying group that gets sexual pleasure by attacking children, teenagers, and young men and women in their early twenties. i hear of a lot of RIAA and record company victories, but has anyone ever heard of actual artists being redeemed for their stolen property?
what percentage of music sales do the record companies get? and the artists? also, does anyone know who really owns these songs? is a certain percentage owned by the record company and the rest owned by the artist or what? none of this makes any fucking sense. exactly whose property am i downloading from kazaa right now?
i do know one thing. if those assholes came for me, hiding behind their lawyers and nonsensical zeal, i'd gladly pay for the things i've stolen. but i'd pay directly to the artists. everyone else can go straight to hell
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They only changed their tune in the last couple of weeks because it looked like some US senators might support a law targeted toward the RIAA.
got any articles concerning this?
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| CrazyMax 300th Post
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| "12 Year old girl settles with RIAA" , posted Wed 10 Sep 04:28:
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RIAA is cold and heartless, and just made a critical mistake in it's war on piracy. I don't see anybody standing up to support suing a 12 yeard honor student...
Record Labels Settle First of 261 Swap Suits
Tue Sep 9, 7:41 PM ET Add U.S. National - Reuters to My Yahoo!
By Sue Zeidler
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A group representing major record labels on Tuesday reached a $2,000 settlement with a New York mother of a 12-year-old girl, less than 24 hours after she and 260 other individuals were sued for illegally swapping music online.
The Recording Industry Association of America (news - web sites) (RIAA) announced the lawsuits on Monday, marking its most aggressive action to date in its effort to stamp out online piracy.
The first settlement was reached between the RIAA and Sylvia Torres, mother of Brianna Lahara, who had illegally offered more than 1,000 copyrighted song tracks on the family's personal computer using the Kazaa file-sharing service.
The suits unleashed an uproar by peer-to-peer proponents as well as a media frenzy, with Lahara's suit in particular being featured in the New York Post and the New York Daily News.
"We understand now that file-sharing the music was illegal," Torres said in a statement on Tuesday. "You can be sure Brianna won't be doing it any more."
"I am sorry for what I have done. I love music and don't want to hurt the artists I love," Brianna Lahara said in the statement.
The RIAA, representing big labels like AOL Time Warner Inc.'s Warner Music and Vivendi Universal's Universal Music, filed the copyright-infringement suits across the country, taking its fight for the first time into the homes of Web users who copy music online.
The group had previously aimed legal efforts on Kazaa and other "peer-to-peer" networks that enable such activity, which the industry blames for a drop in CD sales.
But the RIAA has said it had little choice after trying unsuccessfully for years to stem the tide of piracy.
"We're trying to send a strong message that you are not anonymous when you participate in peer-to-peer file-sharing and that the illegal distribution of copyrighted music has consequences," said Mitch Bainwol, RIAA chairman and chief executive officer.
"And as this case illustrates, parents need to be aware of what their children are doing on their computers.
"I am pleased we have settled the first of yesterday's announced lawsuits, and it's been signed, sealed, and delivered," Bainwol concluded.
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| CrazyMax 299th Post
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| "Why? One reason the RI is so hot to sue" , posted Wed 10 Sep 04:33
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i've got some questions concerning property rights and sickening percentages for anyone that can answer them. first, lemme dumb it down a bit
pirates are stealing songs. as a result, the record companies are losing money. and so they perform a Satanic ritual and summon the RIAA, a lobbying group that gets sexual pleasure by attacking children, teenagers, and young men and women in their early twenties. i hear of a lot of RIAA and record company victories, but has anyone ever heard of actual artists being redeemed for their stolen property?
what percentage of music sales do the record companies get? and the artists? also, does anyone know who really owns these songs? is a certain percentage owned by the record company and the rest owned by the artist or what? none of this makes any fucking sense. exactly whose property am i downloading from kazaa right now?
i do know one thing. if those assholes came for me, hiding behind their lawyers and nonsensical zeal, i'd gladly pay for the things i've stolen. but i'd pay directly to the artists. everyone else can go straight to hell
They only changed their tune in the last couple of weeks because it looked like some US senators might support a law targeted toward the RIAA.
got any articles concerning this?
I don't know all or the exact numbers of artist's compensation. But I do remember hearing an article about this on National Public Radio, and one expert in the article pointed out something interesting. One of the biggest hits to the recording industry was in the 'Greatest Hits' area. An area where the record companies get ALL the money. Seems the majority of music downloaded isn't necessarily new music, but people downloading that ONE old classic they always liked, but didn't want the album. This was a supposed big motivation for record companies getting off their asses and starting this whole campaign.
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| Hungrywolf 2317th Post
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| "Re(1):Why? One reason the RI is so hot to s" , posted Wed 10 Sep 11:15
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i've got some questions concerning property rights and sickening percentages for anyone that can answer them. first, lemme dumb it down a bit
pirates are stealing songs. as a result, the record companies are losing money. and so they perform a Satanic ritual and summon the RIAA, a lobbying group that gets sexual pleasure by attacking children, teenagers, and young men and women in their early twenties. i hear of a lot of RIAA and record company victories, but has anyone ever heard of actual artists being redeemed for their stolen property?
what percentage of music sales do the record companies get? and the artists? also, does anyone know who really owns these songs? is a certain percentage owned by the record company and the rest owned by the artist or what? none of this makes any fucking sense. exactly whose property am i downloading from kazaa right now?
i do know one thing. if those assholes came for me, hiding behind their lawyers and nonsensical zeal, i'd gladly pay for the things i've stolen. but i'd pay directly to the artists. everyone else can go straight to hell
They only changed their tune in the last couple of weeks because it looked like some US senators might support a law targeted toward the RIAA.
got any articles concerning this?
I don't know all or the exact numbers of artist's compensation. But I do remember hearing an article about this on National Public Radio, and one expert in the article pointed out something interesting. One of the biggest hits to the recording industry was in the 'Greatest Hits' area. An area where the record companies get ALL the money. Seems the majority of music downloaded isn't necessarily new music, but people downloading that ONE old classic they always liked, but didn't want the album. This was a supposed big motivation for record companies getting off their asses and starting this whole campaign.
I still don't think the musical "artists" have lost any money from people downloading music.
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