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| iggy 1588th Post
 
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|  "Re(2):GenSui4 at the TGS"
, posted Tue 9 Sep 06:35:
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a. Get rid of the stupid "pairing" battle system.
b. Include more characters from previous games.
c. Have a world map instead of making you slog through every crappy level over and over.
d. Make the army battles actually challenging.
e. Not give up on the story 90% through the game.
What was the pairing? Forgot about it...
I think including old character is not that important. Less then 10, at least. And don't forget there's a gap of 15 years between 2 and 3, only children and immortal characters can come back in a non okina form.
The map was better in 3 than that awfull sluggy thing of 1 and 2, in wich you had to use that elf to be able to run... gosh, I hate him. I hate that map. I had the feeling to play Romasaga 1.
There was challenging battle in 3... not that much, but the first one with Chris, where you have to not die, is a real bitch, especially when you tried to win to get the level 99 thing. The other were not hard, but since it's the only point were your free characters could die, it was a good thing.
And lastly, I don't see what you don't like about the story. It was far better than the lack of scenario of 1 and 2, and the trinity system is a great addition, to the free characters, to the scenario and to everything.
I love 3 much, much more than the first ones. I hope the 4th will be as close to the 3 as the 2 was close to the 1.
boobs.
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| Radish 1648th Post
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| "Re(3):GenSui4 at the TGS" , posted Tue 9 Sep 08:31:
quote:
a. Get rid of the stupid "pairing" battle system.
b. Include more characters from previous games.
c. Have a world map instead of making you slog through every crappy level over and over.
d. Make the army battles actually challenging.
e. Not give up on the story 90% through the game.
What was the pairing? Forgot about it...
I think including old character is not that important. Less then 10, at least. And don't forget there's a gap of 15 years between 2 and 3, only children and immortal characters can come back in a non okina form.
The map was better in 3 than that awfull sluggy thing of 1 and 2, in wich you had to use that elf to be able to run... gosh, I hate him. I hate that map. I had the feeling to play Romasaga 1.
There was challenging battle in 3... not that much, but the first one with Chris, where you have to not die, is a real bitch, especially when you tried to win to get the level 99 thing. The other were not hard, but since it's the only point were your free characters could die, it was a good thing.
And lastly, I don't see what you don't like about the story. It was far better than the lack of scenario of 1 and 2, and the trinity system is a great addition, to the free characters, to the scenario and to everything.
I love 3 much, much more than the first ones. I hope the 4th will be as close to the 3 as the 2 was close to the 1.
boobs.
Sorry, sorry! I must have not been clear but I liked the S3 story. It's just at the end it fizzled out totally.
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Everyone forgetting racial tensions and wars and allying together against the army of recycled monster models felt tacked on and was a total anticlimax.
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The pairing system was where you could only use items and spells on your partner; it was very dumb and made no real sense. It seemed to be there just to artificially inflate the difficulty.
I would rather walk over the world map than have to slog through that infernal mountain pass. Considering the slow walking speed coupled with random battles and it takes like 20 minutes for that part alone. Add in the other levels you had to go through and it was torture. I think the ideal map would be S3's map, but if you've already beaten a level, you don't have to actually enter it again to pass through it.
I like reoccurring characters for some reason. I think they could have packed a few more in (although the ones they did have were spiffy like Lucia and Lilly). I guess I was expecting some sort of tie in like finding McDowel in S2 if you imported your save instead of that crappy theater.
Don't get me wrong, Suikoden 3 is my favorite conventional RPG on the PS2 right now so sorry if I sounded a little negative. I just want them to fix some of S3's problems and make 4 really great.
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| iggy 1589th Post
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| "Re(4):GenSui4 at the TGS" , posted Tue 9 Sep 13:33
Sorry, I misunderstood some of your statements... Well, about this part of the scenario...
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It could have been worse. Yes, the fact that the shibuyesque hero was friend with Chris at the end was a real let down for me. But for the entire war before Luke came out, I think I thought that after the end of Gensui3, each family would come back to his former self and they will continue to hate each other as much... Well, I know what you mean and can't really disagree.
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Same thing for the pairing system, it raises artificially the difficulty, but well... it does it well, and when you get used to it, it doesn't bother much. And most important, it makes battle really quick, since you only have to give 3 orders to make 6 characters moove.
I'm not a big fan of the updated save system... mostly because I lost my saves of Gensô 1 and 2 and I never had any of the 2 gaiden. If I had a save of these 4 games, I would surely love the system to death. I was really relieved to see it added next to nothing in GS3.
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