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| Luisinan 436th Post
 
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|  "Re(3):Capcom at the TGS"
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Wow.... not a single thing I'm even remotely interested in. Way to alienate a long-time supporter, Capcom.
And notice that Monster Hunter put apart, these are all sequels.
That's a brilliant way to take risks and try to seduce a new audience.
Well, ho hum. The thing with Capcom is that they are trying new stuff (unlike other publishers) but it's not exciting or whatever. Let's look at their future lineup.
Gamecube:
P.N. 03 - 09/10/03 - Another action shooter game?
Viewtiful Joe - 10/08/03 - Yeah, this is the game!
And for GBA, PS2 and XBox
Onimusha 3 and Buraiden, Bio Hazard Outbreak, Monster Hunter, Maximo, Tekki, Rockman EXE 4 - sequel city to the max.
So, yeah, you guys are right. Viewtiful Joe is the only exciting game from Capcom right now. The rest are sequels or boring derivatives (PN 03). And even though they may be nice sequels there no longer is the excitement from the old days.
So is the problem that we have grown up, got bored with games, played everything and seen everything or is it that these developers are getting too weak to do anything truly new?
I think the developers have gotten weak!
Bored? "160"
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| DarkZero 275th Post
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| "Re(6):Capcom at the TGS" , posted Mon 8 Sep 12:50
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I think its project number 3. The game looks very nice, but what killed it was the controls. Comparable to controlling a sofa with bars of soap at the bottom.
Unless they fixed that from the demo.
Rent before buying.
All of the reviews that I've read for P.N. 03, both amateur and professional, basically amount to a longest possible pronunciation of the word "ASS". I agree that you should rent before buying, but by that I mean rent something ELSE before buying this, preferably a game that does not suck.
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So is the problem that we have grown up, got bored with games, played everything and seen everything or is it that these developers are getting too weak to do anything truly new?
I think the developers have gotten weak!
Even small children thought Megaman 5 sucked. The problem is that we're talking about Capcom. They had a brief flirtation with innovative game design, but now that hallucination is over and they're back to normal. They've hit a rough patch financially and they know that they can get kids to buy AT LEAST two more Megaman.EXE games (even after the pathetic third one) before children everywhere learn to fear the name Capcom again.
I'm not entirely sure that sequels are the worst part about this lineup, though. The real problem may be that they just don't look interesting. Megaman.EXE 4 looks like another rehash of a game that's already had two mediocre rehashes. Biohazard looks like the sort of online game that a PC game developer would start producing and then quickly scrap because it falls apart once you add internet jackasses to the formula. Tekki's just a novelty, like Namco gun games, and shouldn't really be worth mentioning. Monster Hunter and Maximo: The Army of Zin actually seemed like good games for awhile and I've been waiting for a Maximo sequel for awhile now... but they look so BORING. The screenshots and information look and sound horribly, horribly boring, like someone took a good idea and gave it a shoestring budget.
But hey, at least we don't have Viewtiful Joe in the states yet.
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| Siegfried 278th Post
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| "Re(8):Capcom at the TGS" , posted Mon 8 Sep 14:13
Let's see...
* Except CvS2, no new fighter since 2000. CFAS scrapped. No new Street Fighter until 2008 or so. SF producer left Capcom, which along with the previous Arika and Sammy dropouts leaves no real fighting game developers within the company. Oh, they have Senri Kita and Shinkiroh who I hope go back to SNK as soon as possible, as they are demoted to doing ugly cover artwork and designs for cancelled games. We'll have to turn to SNK of all companies to get Ryu and Chun-Li back in a new game. Even Giogio is cancelled everywhere outside Japan.
That's how Capcom have betrayed the fighting fans.
* Devil May Cry 2 was crap. Auto Modellista was crap. Chaos Legion is crap. PN03 is crap. Killer 7 looks "meh?", a cel-shaded FPS is done already (XIII) if that's what it'll become. Red Dead and Dead Phoenix are both delayed "indefinitely". Dino Crisis 3 isn't any good either, from what I've heard. Tekki is cool until you realize that you have to actually have to control that thing in a hostile environment. The various gun games are vastly inferior to Namco's and Sega's.
That's how Capcom have let down both PS2-, GC- and Xbox-owners.
* Viewtiful Joe seems cool but hardly a big selling title. Apart from that, there's just Resident Evil Galore and the twin Onimushas. And I don't even like RE.
That's how Capcom has lost me, and probably many others, as their customer.
Now, when I want action games I turn to Konami, and for fighting games I turn to Sega, Namco or SNK. Capcom is smaller than Koei now, for all that I care.
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| iggy 1576th Post
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| "Re(8):Capcom at the TGS" , posted Mon 8 Sep 14:18:
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I personally enjoyed the last Megaman X Game.
Speaking of which... Rockman X7 is really, really bashed everywhere he goes. When I said cell shading was not a good idea for an already inferior series...
But again, nobody listen to me. You hear that? Nobody ever listen to me! If people had listen to what I had to say, Capcom would be making good games again, like a DD fashion simulation ; Devil may Cry 2 would have been a good game, we would have had a sequel to vampire for years, Family Guy would continue, Saddam Hussein would have left the power without any need for anyone to send troops preventing innocent people to be murdered by killing them before they were dead, both cancer, aids and SRAS would have been cured, and interstellar travel would be a reality.
But then, what do you want, nobody ever listen to me.
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boobs.
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Even Giogio is cancelled everywhere outside Japan.
That's how Capcom have betrayed the fighting fans.
First, I don't see how the PS2 Jojo game is related to fighting. Then, I don't even see how this thing can be even called a game. And third, if Capcom did one good thing lately, it's to forget this atrocity outside of Japan. Too bad they didn't succeded in cancelling it in Japan too.
Oh, and still on the positive side, Gyakuten Saiban 3 whips you all.
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| EddyT
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| "Re(9):Capcom at the TGS" , posted Mon 8 Sep 22:22
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Let's see...
* Except CvS2, no new fighter since 2000. CFAS scrapped. No new Street Fighter until 2008 or so. SF producer left Capcom, which along with the previous Arika and Sammy dropouts leaves no real fighting game developers within the company. Oh, they have Senri Kita and Shinkiroh who I hope go back to SNK as soon as possible, as they are demoted to doing ugly cover artwork and designs for cancelled games. We'll have to turn to SNK of all companies to get Ryu and Chun-Li back in a new game. Even Giogio is cancelled everywhere outside Japan.
That's how Capcom have betrayed the fighting fans.
* Devil May Cry 2 was crap. Auto Modellista was crap. Chaos Legion is crap. PN03 is crap. Killer 7 looks "meh?", a cel-shaded FPS is done already (XIII) if that's what it'll become. Red Dead and Dead Phoenix are both delayed "indefinitely". Dino Crisis 3 isn't any good either, from what I've heard. Tekki is cool until you realize that you have to actually have to control that thing in a hostile environment. The various gun games are vastly inferior to Namco's and Sega's.
That's how Capcom have let down both PS2-, GC- and Xbox-owners.
* Viewtiful Joe seems cool but hardly a big selling title. Apart from that, there's just Resident Evil Galore and the twin Onimushas. And I don't even like RE.
That's how Capcom has lost me, and probably many others, as their customer.
Now, when I want action games I turn to Konami, and for fighting games I turn to Sega, Namco or SNK. Capcom is smaller than Koei now, for all that I care.
I thought Red Dead Revolver and Dead Phoenix were scrapped. From what the reports were saying... they're no more. Which is a shame because they showed some promise, and seemed to be games that Capcom hasn't done before.
The only games I'm interested in are Rockman Zero 2 and Viewtiful Joe. Biohazard 4 is a wait-and-see game for me, and like other guys around the board here... am hurting for a fighter from Capcom of any kind. Hell, I'll even take a 3-D one.
I miss good 2-D fighting.
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