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| Dr Baghead 2461th Post
 
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|  "Re(3):OT: My silly little webcomic"
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I like that plot. Steampunk... old west... lesbians... that's like two of my favorite things right there and I like old west too. :)
It's not like you'd need much more to get started. Just have your main character do something outlawish and I'm sure it'll evolve from there. I've found it's pretty hard to flesh an idea out until you actually start doing something with it, then it comes to you pretty easily.
There is more to the plot then that, I just don't have a full frame working for the storyline yet. Basically Jessi James' (fake name, and it's horribleness is not unnoted) wealthy parents were robbed and murdered, so she becomes a murderous robber to regain her family fortune while her brother became a blacksmith, at some time later she returns to her hometown to have her brother repair her motorcycle (his character is pretty much Doc Brown from BttF3, only with the build of gigantic wreslter), she ends up saving the owner of the local tavern/inn/place-thing from another group of outlaws, this leads to what should have been a one night stand with the tavern keeper, but she isntead convinces JJ to give up crime and stay with her.
Just like in the samurai stories it's when you reform people come after you, so the what follows are several comics filled with ultra bloody gun fights with various bounty hunters and rival outlaws, which JJ's costume never survives yet is fully repaired by the next one (there's also some yuri-content, but no one wants to see that). It keeps going like that until the murderer of JJ's parent arrives, who is the last fight in the comic.
I didn't discribe it well so it probably sounds worse then it should, plus it's designed as a "alternate reality spin-off" to another comic I'm working on so a lot of the characters only make sense when plugged into the other comic's mold.
the real problem I'm having is thinking up interesting characters for her to fight... dialog's provides a problem too, since it too easily can slip into soft-core porn speak like "outlaw, yeah I'll say! Someone should outlaw an ass that sexy!" or head to the other end of the spectrum and be the over dramatic samurai-comic speak like "I know I can never be forgiven for the sins of my past! but that is the past! We must live for the future and always try to out run the demons that once haunted us or we are doomed to be consumed by them!"
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The plot of Akumika is fairly simple. Obviously Kumiko doesn't kill Ken (would be a very short comic that way) but she makes him into her slave and will live on the human world for a year while she decides what to do with them. This is complicated by Ken's yuri friend Natsume and an angel Ayame who has a personal grudge against Kumiko for some reason. Somehow I managed to stretch it out to 38 chapters, though I'm cutting the less interesting bits for the comic version.
Sounds fun! When there's more up please tell me, I'd like to read the rest of the story.
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| Ammadeau 398th Post
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| "Re(4):OT: My silly little webcomic" , posted Tue 19 Aug 22:20:
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There is more to the plot then that, I just don't have a full frame working for the storyline yet. Basically Jessi James' (fake name, and it's horribleness is not unnoted) wealthy parents were robbed and murdered, so she becomes a murderous robber to regain her family fortune while her
How about Jun James? Jun rythmes with gun, you keep the dynomite JJ nickname, and she can be the ancestor of Jesse James much like Lupin III.
If you want to add something relatively cheesy to the plot, you could have her searching for specific items that were stolen, family heirlooms or maybe some exotic coin collection to make it more than just simple robbing.
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brother became a blacksmith, at some time later she returns to her hometown to have her brother repair her motorcycle (his character is pretty much Doc Brown from BttF3, only with the build of gigantic wreslter), she ends up saving the owner of the local tavern/inn/place-thing from another group of outlaws, this leads to what should have been a one night stand with the tavern keeper, but she isntead convinces JJ to give up crime and stay with her.
I had a similar idea, though my character won the tavern in a card game and turned it into a secret casino and the basis of her small criminal network. Probably wouldn't want to do the same thing, but you might want to do something fun with the tavern combined with JJ's ill gotten gains.
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Just like in the samurai stories it's when you reform people come after you, so the what follows are several comics filled with ultra bloody gun fights with various bounty hunters and rival outlaws, which JJ's costume never survives yet is fully repaired by the next one (there's also some yuri-content, but no one wants to see that). It keeps going like that until the murderer of JJ's parent arrives, who is the last fight in the comic.
You can mix it up too. I mean, you have the whole steampunk setting to play with. You can have plots involving new advanced technology, hidden cities, and natives with magic powers if you wanted to. Sort of like Slayers has a main plot, but there's always a ton of subplots before you get there.
Don't forget JJ needs a female rival for the tavern keeper's affections. That's practically essential. :p
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the real problem I'm having is thinking up interesting characters for her to fight... dialog's provides a problem too, since it too easily can slip into soft-core porn speak like "outlaw, yeah I'll say! Someone should outlaw an ass that sexy!" or head to the other end of the spectrum and be the over dramatic samurai-comic speak like "I know I can never be forgiven for the sins of my past! but that is the past! We must live for the future and always try to out run the demons that once haunted us or we are doomed to be consumed by them!"
Dialogue just comes naturally to me after reading and writing so much so I don't know if I can help much there. Just get a feel for the character and have them say things that seem to fit. I'd imagine JJ to be fairly gruff, almost to the point of a female Ash 'Come get some' and all that. :p
Characters to fight evolve from the setting I find. You can have an old soldier type out to bag his final bounty, a smooth talking swordsman who can deflect bullets with his blade, a petite french maid who is super strong, a ninja cowboy... pretty much whatever fits and seems a little unusual.
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Sounds fun! When there's more up please tell me, I'd like to read the rest of the story.
http://www.ammadeau.net/skumiko.htm
That's the 38 chapters of the written version, though it still needs a good revision. There's a number of sub plots that went nowhere that I need to cut.
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| Dr Baghead 2467th Post
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| "Re(5):OT: My silly little webcomic" , posted Wed 20 Aug 10:23
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How about Jun James? Jun rythmes with gun, you keep the dynomite JJ nickname, and she can be the ancestor of Jesse James much like Lupin III.
If you want to add something relatively cheesy to the plot, you could have her searching for specific items that were stolen, family heirlooms or maybe some exotic coin collection to make it more than just simple robbing.
I had a similar idea, though my character won the tavern in a card game and turned it into a secret casino and the basis of her small criminal network. Probably wouldn't want to do the same thing, but you might want to do something fun with the tavern combined with JJ's ill gotten gains.
I won't be changing the origin or character's name, she's been around too long for me to be able to do that and not get confused.
http://www.angelfire.com/anime2/crimsoneyes/amaltheajess.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/anime2/crimsoneyes/jessijames.jpg
See, she goes way back, all the way back to before I knew how to draw (I still don't but at least I don't know how to draw a little better now.) Also the second picture was a school project, yuri-comics make excellent fodder for art projects once censored.
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You can mix it up too. I mean, you have the whole steampunk setting to play with. You can have plots involving new advanced technology, hidden cities, and natives with magic powers if you wanted to. Sort of like Slayers has a main plot, but there's always a ton of subplots before you get there.
Don't forget JJ needs a female rival for the tavern keeper's affections. That's practically essential. :p
Dialogue just comes naturally to me after reading and writing so much so I don't know if I can help much there. Just get a feel for the character and have them say things that seem to fit. I'd imagine JJ to be fairly gruff, almost to the point of a female Ash 'Come get some' and all that. :p
Characters to fight evolve from the setting I find. You can have an old soldier type out to bag his final bounty, a smooth talking swordsman who can deflect bullets with his blade, a petite french maid who is super strong, a ninja cowboy... pretty much whatever fits and seems a little unusual.
I liked some of these ideas though, I think I could find use for them... after I've changed them enough I don't need to pay you royalities of course ~_-
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http://www.ammadeau.net/skumiko.htm
That's the 38 chapters of the written version, though it still needs a good revision. There's a number of sub plots that went nowhere that I need to cut.
keen, I'll be reading that later.
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| Ammadeau 400th Post
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| "Re(2):OT: My silly little webcomic" , posted Thu 21 Aug 01:33:
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Thanks to all the comments I got on this thread I was encouraged to finish the next page faster than I thought possible. :)
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I liked the drawing style - the outlines are really smooth and have an almost professional look to them. the facial expressions seem perhaps a little bit too simple given the twisted circumstances, but that's something that could improve with time, I guess...
Expressions are something I really need to put more work into, though when I try new expressions they always come out terrible and I have to go back to what I know.
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-reminds me way too much of Morrigan/Lillith (that's who I thought she was when I saw that avatar of yours...) - perhaps because of the wings on her head (a design option from Capcom I never realy understood...). Maybe it's a bit too late for that, but perhaps an unusual hairstyle would help to differentiate her more...
But her hair is different from Morrigan and Lilths -_-
I understand what you're talking about, though the problem is with the head wings mainly. I don't want to use horns to make that she's a demon so I'm kind of stuck with them.
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- her tail sticks out of her back in an unnatural way - odd, because tails are extensions of the spinal cord... but then again, that didn't stop Toriyama...
I've never drawn tails before and really DB is my only example so it explains my mistake. I can picture what you meant though so I'll give it more effort in the future.
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- "any soul will do"?... there are people living in ospital beds out there who wish euthanasia was legal... Maybe "any soul in a healthy body"?...
I don't go into it detail here, though I'll explain it later, but there's an approval process when choosing a soul. Kumiko basically had to present her choice to get approved and Ken was basically the only choice they said yes to. It's not something Kumiko would bother explaining to him.
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I'm curious to see how she changes her mind though...
After the new page you may start to guess...
And Dr. Baghead's comments...
quote //www.angelfire.com/anime2/crimsoneyes/amaltheajess.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/anime2/crimsoneyes/jessijames.jpg
I like the design and I already like the idea so get working already. If there's any way I can help just let me know.
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I liked some of these ideas though, I think I could find use for them... after I've changed them enough I don't need to pay you royalities of course ~_-
They're ideas pulled from projects I seriously doubt I'll ever work on, but tend to use as fodder for better potential projects. I have too many ideas as it is so I don't mind you stealing a few. :p
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