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"DMC and DMC2" , posted Tue 12 Aug 21:27post reply


Ok, I have a question regarding DMC2. I just rented DMC a few days ago and finished it today. It was a very good game, but wasn't too hard (I don't mind though). My question is, is DMC2 harder or easier? I plan to rent it now so I can try it out, I'll prob. buy DMC cheap somewhere and may get DMC2 if I like it, but I just want some impressions based on what about DMC2 is like DMC and what is different. What can I expect?






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"Mmmhhh..." , posted Tue 12 Aug 21:38post reply


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but I just want some impressions based on what about DMC2 is like DMC and what is different. What can I expect?



Well, I don't think DMC is easy, at least not in Hard and in Dante Must Die difficulty.
Anyway, DMC2 is a lot easier than DMC, the feeling is different, the attacks are different, the combos are different, even Dante's voice is different... it's like a completely different game, not the sequel to DMC...
DMC feels a lot more solid, has better music, and overall is a lot more fun than the sequel.
DMC2 is not a shitty game, as many may think, it's just VERY different from the first one, so, if you're expecting more of the same, you will be dissapointed.

Personally, I like the first game better, but give the sequel a try, just don't get your hopes too high.

In other notes, try beating DMC in Dante Must Die mode with an S ranking on every mission; playing it in the Super Dante mode, is a lot of fun





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"Re(1):DMC and DMC2" , posted Tue 12 Aug 23:20post reply


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Ok, I have a question regarding DMC2. I just rented DMC a few days ago and finished it today. It was a very good game, but wasn't too hard (I don't mind though). My question is, is DMC2 harder or easier? I plan to rent it now so I can try it out, I'll prob. buy DMC cheap somewhere and may get DMC2 if I like it, but I just want some impressions based on what about DMC2 is like DMC and what is different. What can I expect?



What Onslaught said is basically right. I don't think DMC2 is a bad game, but it's not as good as the first. It was fun, but it's much, much easier. To give you some perspective, I think DMC2 on Dante Must Die mode is easier than DMC on the normal difficulty. Still, it's a stylish game and a lot of fun, just not up to the standards of the first.





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"Re(2):DMC and DMC2" , posted Tue 12 Aug 23:53post reply


DMC is my favorite action game on the PS2. On hard and DmD mode it is OLD SCHOOL HARD, yet more enjoyable than Shinobi at the same level of difficulty though, for some reason. I haven't played DMC2, I was advised against it.





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"Re(3):DMC and DMC2" , posted Wed 13 Aug 00:07post reply


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DMC is my favorite action game on the PS2. On hard and DmD mode it is OLD SCHOOL HARD, yet more enjoyable than Shinobi at the same level of difficulty though, for some reason. I haven't played DMC2, I was advised against it.



That's pretty much my opinion. If you've only played DMC on Normal Mode, then you haven't really played the game. Hard Mode is where the fun really starts, because the difficulty is on par with (or just slightly below) Shinobi's Normal Mode and it really shows off how robust the fighting engine is. I've never played the game on the later difficulty levels after getting frustrated for reasons that I will not mention because of spoilers, but I'm told they're pretty much on par with Shinobi's Hard and Super Hard Modes.

I haven't played Devil May Cry 2, either. EGM and several other reviewers were adamant about the game's pathetic difficulty and I was more concerned with the game's challenge than its flashy visuals. I've considered renting it, but everything that I've read has convinced me that it would be a wasted rental. I'm not willing to waste another rental on a curiosity after playing the disgusting pile of crap that Nintendo calls "Wario World". I'm also not willing to mourn the death of two of my favorite franchises in a row.





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"Re(1):DMC and DMC2" , posted Wed 13 Aug 02:57post reply


Man, I must really be teh sux0r at the first game, 'cause I thought it was one of the hardest games EVER, and not in a good, challenging way - it's just stupid hard. For example, the first boss (the big spider thing) is more or less IMPOSSIBLE without Air Raid, and even with it, it's still really fuckin' hard. And this is on Normal! When I heard there were even HARDER modes, and people've done crazy shit like beat the game straight through with only the Force Edge and pistols, my friggin' head exploded.

When I first got the game, I loved it to death, but the difficulty quickly killed my passion for it and I haven't played it in months. The difficulty of DMC is also something that shyed me away from the sequel, but the overwhelming negative reviews pretty much destroyed what little interest I had in it. Now that you guys have said it's not as hard as DMC, maybe I'll give it a chance, even if it blows. :)





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"Re(2):DMC and DMC2" , posted Wed 13 Aug 03:29post reply


I think part of the reason DMC2 is easy is because for those who have played DMC1 on Hard and Dante Must Die modes have got used to the absurd difficulty in that game. It seemed the DMC2 was one step below DMC1 in terms of difficulty. Like Hardmode in DMC2 was like DMC1's normal...

Anyway yeah...DMC2 plays quite a bit differently than DMC1. I accepted the game not as a sequel or improvement to the previous game but more on the lines of a different kind of DMC. DMC2 is a good game but it is kind of lacking...it feels and looks incomplete. It is worthy of a buy and at the very least worth a rental.





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"Re(3):DMC and DMC2" , posted Wed 13 Aug 08:38post reply


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I think part of the reason DMC2 is easy is because for those who have played DMC1 on Hard and Dante Must Die modes have got used to the absurd difficulty in that game. It seemed the DMC2 was one step below DMC1 in terms of difficulty. Like Hardmode in DMC2 was like DMC1's normal...

Anyway yeah...DMC2 plays quite a bit differently than DMC1. I accepted the game not as a sequel or improvement to the previous game but more on the lines of a different kind of DMC. DMC2 is a good game but it is kind of lacking...it feels and looks incomplete. It is worthy of a buy and at the very least worth a rental.



Here's a question, how does the story from DMC carry into DMC2? Is Trish in DMC at all? I don't care too much about if DMC2 is easier. Also I'm sorry if anyone got the impression that I called DMC easy. I just heard it was hard from a lot of people and based on what I'd heard I expected it to be harder than it was is all.






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"Re(4):DMC and DMC2" , posted Wed 13 Aug 10:55post reply


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Here's a question, how does the story from DMC carry into DMC2? Is Trish in DMC at all? I don't care too much about if DMC2 is easier. Also I'm sorry if anyone got the impression that I called DMC easy. I just heard it was hard from a lot of people and based on what I'd heard I expected it to be harder than it was is all.


The plot of DMC2 doesn't connect to DMC1 and is instead it's own seperate story. The big, evil guy sealed away at the end of DMC1, incredibly, stays sealed away. Trish isn't in the story of DMC2 but she is an unlockable playable character in both Dante and Lucia's story mode as well as the Bloody Palace stages.





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"Re(5):DMC and DMC2" , posted Wed 13 Aug 15:13post reply


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Here's a question, how does the story from DMC carry into DMC2? Is Trish in DMC at all? I don't care too much about if DMC2 is easier. Also I'm sorry if anyone got the impression that I called DMC easy. I just heard it was hard from a lot of people and based on what I'd heard I expected it to be harder than it was is all.

The plot of DMC2 doesn't connect to DMC1 and is instead it's own seperate story. The big, evil guy sealed away at the end of DMC1, incredibly, stays sealed away. Trish isn't in the story of DMC2 but she is an unlockable playable character in both Dante and Lucia's story mode as well as the Bloody Palace stages.



That's odd that the stories don't connect. That disappoints me. At least she's unlockable... I got the Trish figure today at Gamestop.






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"Re(6):DMC and DMC2" , posted Wed 13 Aug 18:00post reply


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The plot of DMC2 doesn't connect to DMC1 and is instead it's own seperate story. The big, evil guy sealed away at the end of DMC1, incredibly, stays sealed away. Trish isn't in the story of DMC2 but she is an unlockable playable character in both Dante and Lucia's story mode as well as the Bloody Palace stages.


That's odd that the stories don't connect. That disappoints me. At least she's unlockable... I got the Trish figure today at Gamestop.



One of the staff members (director? producer? I don't remember) said that they intended to make Dante sort of like James Bond, with a different female sidekick in every game. Unfortunately they, like so many fools before them, failed to realize that the James Bond method of story-telling has never worked for anyone but James Bond. The phrase "We wanted to make it sort of like James Bond" has left many corpses in its wake and DMC2 seems to be one of them. Hopefully this idea is one of the many things that they will fix in the next DMC to make the series enjoyable again. The fact that there is a Trish figure and that Trish is going to be in the DMC comic are good signs.

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Man, I must really be teh sux0r at the first game, 'cause I thought it was one of the hardest games EVER, and not in a good, challenging way - it's just stupid hard. For example, the first boss (the big spider thing) is more or less IMPOSSIBLE without Air Raid, and even with it, it's still really fuckin' hard. And this is on Normal! When I heard there were even HARDER modes, and people've done crazy shit like beat the game straight through with only the Force Edge and pistols, my friggin' head exploded.


I think a lot of us, now that we've mastered Devil May Cry and continued on to conquer Shinobi, have just gotten an inflated idea of our skills. The game really is hard. Hard enough that Capcom supposedly got a lot of complaints about it from Japanese gamers and toned down DMC2's difficulty in response. I think what it really depends on is your temperament. I loved tearing my hair out in frustration while fighting the Magma Spider in DMC and most of the bosses in Shinobi. Other people just find it annoying.





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"Re(1):DMC and DMC2" , posted Wed 13 Aug 18:12post reply


My, probably late, opinion is that DMC2 is way too easy...I played it in Hard level and I found it very very easy...and once you get the Bazooka the game just became stupid...I killed every Stage's Final Boss just pressing the button continuously while I was reading something... -_-U






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"Re(2):DMC and DMC2" , posted Wed 13 Aug 18:35post reply


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I think a lot of us, now that we've mastered Devil May Cry and continued on to conquer Shinobi, have just gotten an inflated idea of our skills. The game really is hard. Hard enough that Capcom supposedly got a lot of complaints about it from Japanese gamers and toned down DMC2's difficulty in response. I think what it really depends on is your temperament. I loved tearing my hair out in frustration while fighting the Magma Spider in DMC and most of the bosses in Shinobi. Other people just find it annoying.


Maybe so... once you play a game enough you get used to it and you pick up skills, it's hard to remember what it was like before you had them. DMC2 allowed DMC players to use some of the skills they picked up in the first game, though the gameplay was a bit different... but regardless of that, I still think it's far too easy. Even beginners plow through it with their eyes closed.

Anyway, Shinobi was much harder than DMC, I felt, and a much different type of game. I like linear action games like that... DMC had exploration whereas Shinobi was basically straightforward, and there wasn't any upgrading.

The way I stayed sane playing Shinobi was teaming up on it with a friend. The day I bought it, we went back to his house and busted it open... we proceeded to spend 7 or 8 hours playing it, haha. When one of us got stuck or died, the other took over. That way, when the other's playing, we had a second to rest and think about what we'd try when we were playing, and the sheer amount of skill it took to take some bosses down in one or two hits, and the satisfaction you feel when you do it... excellent! We got so far, and had no memory card... so I drove home in a horrible rainstorm 15 minutes both ways to get mine, just so we could save our progress, heheh. Fun times.

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My, probably late, opinion is that DMC2 is way too easy...I played it in Hard level and I found it very very easy...and once you get the Bazooka the game just became stupid...I killed every Stage's Final Boss just pressing the button continuously while I was reading something... -_-U



Oh yeah, totally. The multi-headed boss at the end of the game and the bazooka rocket launcher-y weapon... complete joke. Half the time you could hit that thing while it couldn't hit you.