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| eight one
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|  "SVC CHAOS super killer sexy video!"
, posted Thu 31 Jul 03:37:
Here
If you have 65MB to spare. Check it out.
No, Mars People/Firebrand/Athena are not in this one.
I'm sure you'll like it, though.
PROSECUTEDT TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE JAM.
[this message was edited by eight one on Thu 31 Jul 05:27] |
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| Mosquiton 843th Post
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| "wow." , posted Thu 31 Jul 10:11:
That's an awesome video, ten-thousand thanks for linking it here. After reading some of the replies I feel very lucky to have broadband... pretty much streamed the whole thing. Heheh.
But man, Shiki looks awesome and the meat-slicing sounds and visual effects (blood! yes!) are just right. Same holds for Genjuro, although his sprite isn't anywhere near as cool looking. I hope he has that badass white hair white outfit color scheme. Zero looks really cool as well, and from what I hear he can charge a lot of his moves and whip out helper-style cyber elves.
Again, great video. Backgrounds look nice, fighting looks fun and pretty solid, and it looks like it has heart. I'm anxious to dink around with throws and guard cancel dashing for myself, and check out Guile and Chun as well. It can't get localized and ported fast enough for me.
Edit: About Guard Cancel dashing... In addition to Mr. Karate, I'm pretty sure Terry does one in the very first match against Gouki's fireball super. Note the flash, the dash, and the subsequent smash. :P You can see the power meter deplete as well. He seems to do another cancel right before it cuts to the next match.
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| KTallguy
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| "Re(1):Took me long enough" , posted Thu 31 Jul 12:01
Well... I'm just glad that it has some depth to it. I was frankly afraid when lots of people started bashing it.
However, if it's popular in Japan, it has to be pretty good. Fuck all those people on SRK that complain because it's not like CvS2. From what I hear it looks like all the characters are semi-balanced, save Iori.
In CvS, a lot of SNK characters were nerfed to hell. EX versions, with LESS moves ? Bullshit. CvS2 was fun but the SNK characters are still kind of nerfed.
I'm glad that SvC seems to be pretty balanced, but all those Capcom people need to adjust to KOF style gameplay, like all the SNK people needed to adjust to CvS2. I'm tired of people complaining that shit is 'broken' when SNK characters were broken enough in CvS2.
hehe... sorry, rant. I'm just REALLY looking forward to playing this game. The funny thing is, I don't even know who to play as. I guess I'll just choose and see =)
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| eight one
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| "C'mon c'mon...get serious!" , posted Thu 31 Jul 12:15
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Well... I'm just glad that it has some depth to it. I was frankly afraid when lots of people started bashing it.
However, if it's popular in Japan, it has to be pretty good. Fuck all those people on SRK that complain because it's not like CvS2. From what I hear it looks like all the characters are semi-balanced, save Iori.
In CvS, a lot of SNK characters were nerfed to hell. EX versions, with LESS moves ? Bullshit. CvS2 was fun but the SNK characters are still kind of nerfed.
I'm glad that SvC seems to be pretty balanced, but all those Capcom people need to adjust to KOF style gameplay, like all the SNK people needed to adjust to CvS2. I'm tired of people complaining that shit is 'broken' when SNK characters were broken enough in CvS2.
hehe... sorry, rant. I'm just REALLY looking forward to playing this game. The funny thing is, I don't even know who to play as. I guess I'll just choose and see =)
Anyone who totally bases their opinion on what the folks at SRK have to say (of all people) needs to just kill themselves.
Even with its obvious flaws and tweaks, the core game is good enough for a wide range of players. Yeah, Mai's breasts don't exactly animate at 60fps or we don't more secret charas than regular charas, but the presentation is decent overall.
All the familiar Cpacom players are in for a serious wake-up call.
PROSECUTEDT TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE JAM.
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| Grave 480th Post
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| "Re(2):It's so.....big" , posted Thu 31 Jul 12:19
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I had to do it like that because 1)It got tedious for me to send 25(!!) different vids over AIM and 2)Not everyone uses wmv-so I thought mpg was a bit more compatible with most people out there. By the way, I did warn you about the filesize.
Actually, I'm on dialup, and I'm really glad you did this for several reasons. One, providing the movie was nice enough as it is. Two, I think WMV is a terrible format, and it shouldn't be accepted as a standard... in fact, I don't feel like any current video format should be, but that's a whole different discussion. Anyway, mpeg runs on just about everything without special software, and the file size isn't bad. I'm on 56k myself, and I downloaded 300+ MB in the span of a couple hours on Kazaa last night... anything under 100 MB isn't too bad, I don't think.
Thanks again for posting this.
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| VManOfMana
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| "Re(1):C'mon c'mon...get serious!" , posted Thu 31 Jul 12:35
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However, if it's popular in Japan, it has to be pretty good.
Or maybe just because it is the new game.
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Fuck all those people on SRK that complain because it's not like CvS2. From what I hear it looks like all the characters are semi-balanced, save Iori.
...who has been unbalanced since before I can remember.
But still, most real criticism on SRK does not revolve around comparing it to CvS2 (and besides, a lot of people do not like CvS2 overthere). It is being criticized from an overall fighting game point of view. Look at Buktooth and Ponder's points. They don't mention CvS2 at all. And Buktooth does play KoF.
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In CvS, a lot of SNK characters were nerfed to hell. EX versions, with LESS moves ? Bullshit. CvS2 was fun but the SNK characters are still kind of nerfed.
If you want to play them as if it was KoF, of course. No wonder my Chun Li/Morrigan/Nakoruru was destroying Kyos, Ioris and Yamazakis in Chihuahua. Still, even though they do not fall into team retard (Sagat/Blanka/Cammy, or A-Sakura/[psycho]Vega), SNK characters do have a lot of potential. Except for the bad matchups, Iori and Yamazaki have a lot going into them, and Japanese players have demonstrated that Kyo is a crossup monster. Or look at Chikyu's Raiden.
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I'm glad that SvC seems to be pretty balanced, but all those Capcom people need to adjust to KOF style gameplay, like all the SNK people needed to adjust to CvS2. I'm tired of people complaining that shit is 'broken' when SNK characters were broken enough in CvS2.
Give me evidence that SvC is balanced. A lot of posts agree that the top tier is Iori, Kyo, Chun Li and you can add Terry, Ryo and sometimes Ryu. There is a top tier in SvC.
Besides, the fact that CvS2 "was broken" is no reason to make SvC broken.
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Anyone who totally bases their opinion on what the folks at SRK have to say (of all people) needs to just kill themselves.
You cannot really base your opinion on some fanboy just shouting around, do you? You have to look for those posts who actually have information. SRK or not.
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Even with its obvious flaws and tweaks, the core game is good enough for a wide range of players. Yeah, Mai's breasts don't exactly animate at 60fps or we don't more secret charas than regular charas, but the presentation is decent overall.
Graphics are beside the point. The game has bad hitbox issues, and that is what worries me the most.
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All the familiar Cpacom players are in for a serious wake-up call.
Although now I am a 70% Capcom player, 25% Tasofro player and 5% Arc Systems player, I grew up on Mexico, meaning that I played or saw every NeoGeo fighter up to KoF 97 and 98 to death (I moved to the US in 97), and can still see SNK games often enough since I live in the border. Still, I am not impressed by SvC for what I have seen.
And I am one of those who thinks that SNK made way better games than KoF (Garou, Last Blade, and most importantly Samurai Spirits 2)
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| KTallguy
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| "Re(2):C'mon c'mon...get serious!" , posted Thu 31 Jul 13:05:
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However, if it's popular in Japan, it has to be pretty good.
Or maybe just because it is the new game.
True, but from what I know(which might be wrong) Japanese and Korean players ditched Tekken 4 within one or two weeks. For now it looks popular enough.
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But still, most real criticism on SRK does not revolve around comparing it to CvS2 (and besides, a lot of people do not like CvS2 overthere). It is being criticized from an overall fighting game point of view. Look at Buktooth and Ponder's points. They don't mention CvS2 at all. And Buktooth does play KoF.
I reread Buktooth's review, and although it does bring up some good points, it seems like he's angry because it's different. He talks about the broken counter rolls but only in theory. In fact, most of the critisisms (and proported strengths) are a little preemptive. We don't KNOW how unbalanced the counter dash is really.
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If you want to play them as if it was KoF, of course. No wonder my Chun Li/Morrigan/Nakoruru was destroying Kyos, Ioris and Yamazakis in Chihuahua. Still, even though they do not fall into team retard (Sagat/Blanka/Cammy, or A-Sakura/[psycho]Vega), SNK characters do have a lot of potential. Except for the bad matchups, Iori and Yamazaki have a lot going into them, and Japanese players have demonstrated that Kyo is a crossup monster. Or look at Chikyu's Raiden.
Potential is great. However, a highly skilled player using 'insert random SNK character' will get his ass handed to him by a lower skilled player using 'top tier' characters. That's the point of tiers. Once the Sagats, Blankas, and Cammys get used to the unique competition (they are so used to seeing other sagats, etc.) they'll just punish you with priority. It's a matter of what moves will knock what out of what. Skill can take you far, but with broken characters, not that far.
I enjoyed playing CvS2(mostly on DC). I'm not phenomenal at it, but I enjoyed playing it. It's a good game in general, and has a lot to offer. But when roll canceling started rearing it's head, and people started just using three or four characters, I exited the scene. I don't like bugs that are exploited like that. The worst part is, it's like a 'strategy' now.
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Give me evidence that SvC is balanced. A lot of posts agree that the top tier is Iori, Kyo, Chun Li and you can add Terry, Ryo and sometimes Ryu. There is a top tier in SvC.
I said that it 'seems' to be balanced, by initial reports. Buktooth is complaining how Tessa's anti air sucks (too slow)after playing as her about 3 or 4 times. Other players using her and saying she has traps with excellent anti air(if you enter the command earlier than usual). The fact is, I'm hearing (in this early stage), one person say this character is good, the other say that the same character is bad. It 'seems' that it's more balanced than CvS2, although it's too early to tell for sure.. you're right. Hopefully there won't be so much separation between the tiers, so it's not a fatal handicap when you pick a character that's not top teir, unlike in CvS2, MvC2...
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Besides, the fact that CvS2 "was broken" is no reason to make SvC broken.
Agreed 100%. Stop saying that making a balanced 2D fighter is impossible and TRY.
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You cannot really base your opinion on some fanboy just shouting around, do you? You have to look for those posts who actually have information. SRK or not.
Agreed, but SRK has been known to have this negative stint towards SNK for a while. It, in essence, is a Capcom fanboy site. Information is relative. Until someone shows me a video of exactly how the hitboxes suck, I'm not convinced. It's kind of impossible until you get the console version or something.
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Graphics are beside the point. The game has bad hitbox issues, and that is what worries me the most.
I want to play the game and find out for myself. However KOF has a different feel, and so the hitboxes are a little different, which might throw people off. For example, Kyo's basic fireball, when standing right next to someone, will go BEHIND them. SRK people say "BROKEN" but it's just KOF.
Isn't it plausable to say that the priorities in CvS2 are just as glitched as the hitboxes in SvC? At least you can adjust to hitboxes if they look a little weird, you can't adapt to priorities, they just kill you.
Anyway, there's really no use arguing over it. In the next few months we'll see how much staying power there is in this game.
Edit: Added a small point.
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| emeraldazn
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| "more svc impressions" , posted Thu 31 Jul 13:39:
great vid :)
in the arcade i saw this one asian player from cvs2 doing mad combos with chun li, but when he played ryu in svc he didnt play as well. but im sure once he gets into the game he'll do some major ownage.
svc just plain rocks..zero and ciel communicating with each other in the introduction speech is too cool. and when zero taunts, he calls in ciel! too cool again.
oh yea..i was ryo and my opponent was sagat..we both did FB dms, and sagat's overpowered mine and hit me. :(
after violent ken's chain kick dm, u can connect his shoryuken dm as well.
some of ryo's voice are new, like when he wins. mai, some of terrys and kims, are new as welll. i think theres more new, but i need to try to hear more carefully.
zero has 2 dms, one that u already saw, the other being where he steadies his gun and shoots a big blast. u can hold and charge to make it even more powerful.
iori has his dp+k move back. i need to check again to see if its cancelable to the qcb+p move
already seen before in 97 but, goetniz's rush dm still has style :)
tessa's exceed attack, she hangs u in the air using some weird thing, then meteors fall on you, alot of meteors.
mars people's dm are, the UFO laser beam oval thing (i think it only shoots a maximum of 3 shots), and another one where he calls in mini-mars people, and like 7 in a row come out in different angles, one going upright, downright, and downup. (from the 1p side).
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| OYashiroForever 380th Post
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| "Quick Checklist" , posted Thu 31 Jul 14:02:
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What else is on it?
Lots of:
O. Iori, Evil/O. Ken, Geese, Shiki owning Dan, Goenitz, Zero, Demitri, Terry
A little bit of:
Hugo, Genjuro, Kim, Kasumi, Shin Karate/Shin Gouki
Most of it is just 10-15 sec. match snippets... but a lot of cool stuff in there:
- Zero's Ranbu super
- Geese Reppuken into Raging Storm (hell yes!)
- Tail end of Demitri MBing Shiki
- Goenitz whiffing his Exceed
- Terry's ghetto Buster Wolf
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- O. Ken Jab Shoryuken x 50 -_-
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| Fro Boy11 1817th Post
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| "Re(3):Re(10):It's so.....big" , posted Thu 31 Jul 14:16
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What else is on it?
Well, you get to see a Midnight Bliss, A cool Geese vs. Goenitz match, and Shiki own Hugo.
That's just a taste.
What's up eight one! Well, all that stuff sounds cool. I'm watching the old SvC videos right now. You know, just getting hyped up or whatnot. I've been wanting to see how Shiki played in this for a while too. You know reading reports and seeing it are two totally different things and you'll get two totally different feelings about it. I'm at about 11% so I still have plenty of time to wait.
Also, after I get this vid, I'll probably delete the old ones. Is there more on this than on the old vids?
Is cable that much better? I was able to view it instaneously through the temprorary internet files, wow im sorry you have to wait so long
It's not so bad. I was playing KOF2002 on DC while I was waiting. Now I'm watching "Married With Children" and I come back to check the status of the download. It's at 21% right now. Yeah, It's gonna take a while, but at 6 minute video is good enough for me. Plus, it's the finished version of the game.
Still waiting for a Dan Hibiki and Robert Garcia dream match!
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| emeraldazn
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| "Re(4):Re(10):It's so.....big" , posted Thu 31 Jul 17:56
Ok today I saw some good players using genjuro, earthquake, kim..Earthquake has great potential, hes an awesome char when in corner, fart, spinning ball, flying belly, they all can be very aggressive. his exceed is a spinning move where, if hit, calls in two little guys that look like him and they beat the crap outta the opponent. The fart dissolves tho, doesnt go full screen. The teleport move where he lands on the opponent is tricky, earthquake can do tat spin move afterwards and hit the opponent whos trying to run after he blocks the belly flop.
genjuro is a nice character with varied slashes.. his moves can confuse the opponent by slashing and being at the other side, and try to combo from there..he has a charge move where u can hold and he will thrust his sword out, but the range on that move is kinda limited.
kim's exceed is very strong..its crazy, and u can connect it after his qcfx2+k dm. he still has his chain combos, decent damage. he lost that new jump qcf+k move from 2k2, and its replaced with the other one from 98.
mr karate..donno what to say about him. his f+a is back. but heres the bad news: C, f+a, fb DM DOES NOT CONNECT, heck, C, f+a, exceed DOES NOT CONNECT EITHER. you prolly have to use a, f+a..need to check if that will work at least.
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