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iggy

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"sony to launch handheld?" , posted Tue 29 Jul 10:50:

A new episode in our saga Sony vs the world! today, Sony vs the Game boy!Link Here
Well, who knows...

「・・・なんだその笑いは・・・まさかきみがニューハーフだったとか？」
ジョリーン「失礼ね！エルメェスと同じにしないでよ！！」

[this message was edited by iggy on Tue 29 Jul 10:57]

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Radish

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"Re(1):sony to launch handheld?" , posted Tue 29 Jul 11:18

quote:
A new episode in our saga Sony vs the world! today, Sony vs the Game boy!Link Here
Well, who knows...

Yeah I saw the mockup. It looks really cool, but I'm worried it will cost $300...

Grave

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Gold Customer

"Re(1):sony to launch handheld?" , posted Tue 29 Jul 11:19

quote:
A new episode in our saga Sony vs the world! today, Sony vs the Game boy!Link Here
Well, who knows...

They announced this a while back, but I'm still waiting to see what the system looks like... UMD is a cool format and all, but the screen's pretty big, I'm going to have to assume this isn't going to be a pocket-sized system. 7.1 channel audio on a portable? Why? It just seems kind... well, excessive.

I don't know why 3D's necessary on a portable system, when half the GBA developers can't even do 2D right. Is it me or is there a disproportionately high number of hideously ugly games with muddy pre-rendered graphics rather than hand-drawn sprites? I was looking through a magazine a few days ago and damn, a lot of GBA games coming out are hideous.

Back to the topic at hand, though... if this thing has analog sticks, it's not fitting in anyone's pocket.

I am curious to see what Sony's doing, but I can't see this killing Game Boy off, or even knocking it out of first place like I'm sure they hope they can.

Grave

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Gold Customer

"Re(2):sony to launch handheld?" , posted Tue 29 Jul 11:29

quote:

Yeah I saw the mockup. It looks really cool, but I'm worried it will cost $300...

Where'd you see a mockup? I didn't see anything at the link... though, I find it odd that they don't mention the dimensions of the screen there, either, but PSM had a picture in their magazine that they claimed to be actual size of the PSP screen. Of course, not with actual footage from the PSP screen, but it's the idea... bleh. That free subscription may have been a bad idea.

Hmm.. I'd like to see what the system may look like, though.

Radish

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Red Carpet Executive Member

"Re(3):sony to launch handheld?" , posted Tue 29 Jul 11:35

quote:

Yeah I saw the mockup. It looks really cool, but I'm worried it will cost $300...

Where'd you see a mockup? I didn't see anything at the link... though, I find it odd that they don't mention the dimensions of the screen there, either, but PSM had a picture in their magazine that they claimed to be actual size of the PSP screen. Of course, not with actual footage from the PSP screen, but it's the idea... bleh. That free subscription may have been a bad idea.

Hmm.. I'd like to see what the system may look like, though.

EGM has some artists rendition where it looks like a GBA:SP with a dual shock control setup. I'm excited since I think this could be really great although I won't be able to shell out $300 (like th NGage) for a portable.

thebigword
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"Re(4):sony to launch handheld?" , posted Tue 29 Jul 13:03

quote:

Yeah I saw the mockup. It looks really cool, but I'm worried it will cost $300...

Where'd you see a mockup? I didn't see anything at the link... though, I find it odd that they don't mention the dimensions of the screen there, either, but PSM had a picture in their magazine that they claimed to be actual size of the PSP screen. Of course, not with actual footage from the PSP screen, but it's the idea... bleh. That free subscription may have been a bad idea.

Hmm.. I'd like to see what the system may look like, though.

EGM has some artists rendition where it looks like a GBA:SP with a dual shock control setup. I'm excited since I think this could be really great although I won't be able to shell out $300 (like th NGage) for a portable.

Sony is dumb, but not that dumb. As much as I PS2? I doubt it.

Mog

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"Re(2):sony to launch handheld?" , posted Tue 29 Jul 13:12:

quote:

It looks really cool, but I'm worried it will cost $300...

Ineed, it doesn't sound like it's going to be cheap. Still, the projected release date isn't until Winter of 2004 though, so by then (or whenever it ships for that matter) the components in the unit may be cheaper than they are now.

quote:

I am curious to see what Sony's doing, but I can't see this killing Game Boy off, or even knocking it out of first place like I'm sure they hope they can.

On a related note, does anyone know if any developers have signed on for the PSP yet? I don't remember hearing Sony anounce any, but considering how far away the projected launch date is Sony may not have said anything about it just yet. Just curious.

Edit:

quote:

Sony is dumb, but not that dumb. As much as I PS2? I doubt it.

*shrug* The N-Gage is currently set to retail at $299, and the specs of it are a good deal less impressive than the PSP, so why not? I don't think "dumb" is the right adjective to describe Sony either. Any company that can mass produce two notoriously shoddy consoles and still maintain a majority of the gaming market probably isn’t stupid :P Arrogant, definitely. Dumb, probably not.

Re-edit: d'oh, forgot the smilly...

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[this message was edited by Mog on Tue 29 Jul 14:01]

Hungrywolf

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"Re(5):sony to launch handheld?" , posted Tue 29 Jul 13:34

quote:

Sony is dumb, but not that dumb. As much as I PS2? I doubt it.

I don't.

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baby

I'll give you that.....but me? I'm magic!"
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Omar

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"Re(2):sony to launch handheld?" , posted Tue 29 Jul 14:01

quote:

Back to the topic at hand, though... if this thing has analog sticks, it's not fitting in anyone's pocket.

IGN has released info about that. It only has one Analog stick. I was expecting two, though.

With that exception, everything else is just a PS controller.

"Nothing suits better than a dead man's shirt"

aderack
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New Customer

"Re(3):sony to launch handheld?" , posted Tue 29 Jul 14:05

quote:

On a related note, does anyone know if any developers have signed on for the PSP yet?

SNK has.

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thebigword
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"Re(4):sony to launch handheld?" , posted Tue 29 Jul 15:34:

ok, dumb was the wrong word to use to describe their console tactics over the past several years. But, if Sony wants to compete with the sales powerhouse of the Gameboy Advance (and you know they do), they won't be dumb enough to release it at a 300 dollar price tag. I'd say somewhere around $150 bucks. Even with all those extra features on the PSP, it's still going to be marketed as a portable game machine, pure and simple.

[this message was edited by thebigword on Tue 29 Jul 15:35]

OYashiroForever

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"Re(1):sony to launch handheld?" , posted Tue 29 Jul 15:58

OT: Iggy: Do you speak Japanese or did you just copy n' paste your sig from somewhere? Either way... funny stuff.

"Only two things are infinite

the universe and human stupidity

and I'm not sure about the former."

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I see through you."

Mosquiton

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"Re(2):sony to launch handheld?" , posted Tue 29 Jul 16:16

quote:
OT: Iggy: Do you speak Japanese or did you just copy n' paste your sig from somewhere? Either way... funny stuff.

Iggy is probably the best non-native Japanese speaker on this board. Or, at the very least, the most inclined to share accurately translated info.

/ / /

iggy

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Red Carpet Executive Member

"Re(2):sony to launch handheld?" , posted Tue 29 Jul 17:19:

quote:
OT: Iggy: Do you speak Japanese or did you just copy n' paste your sig from somewhere? Either way... funny stuff.

My sign comes from a great... err... I mean, an interesting but ultimately ugly fan site about Jojo, which had (and surely will have) a resume of each episode shortly before the release of each Jump. It has also many fun stuffs, and the one from which I copied this signature is a room where various Jojo characters from past seasons are supposed to predict what will happen in the next episodes. It mostly ends in dirty jokes not related at all to the current action, but it's really fun. Right now, since part 6 ended and part 7 didn't begin, the old characters invited the heroes of the Stone Ocean to chat, and I copied a question of Rohan to Jolyne, and her answer (and then Hermes says something like "bukkorosu!)

Mosquiton : *-o-*
thanks!

「・・・なんだその笑いは・・・まさかきみがニューハーフだったとか？」
ジョリーン「失礼ね！エルメェスと同じにしないでよ！！」

[this message was edited by iggy on Tue 29 Jul 17:21]

Ishmael

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"Re(4):sony to launch handheld?" , posted Tue 29 Jul 17:22

quote:

On a related note, does anyone know if any developers have signed on for the PSP yet?
SNK has.

It's NGPC mk.2!

Hungrywolf

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"Re(5):sony to launch handheld?" , posted Tue 29 Jul 20:17

quote:
ok, dumb was the wrong word to use to describe their console tactics over the past several years. But, if Sony wants to compete with the sales powerhouse of the Gameboy Advance (and you know they do), they won't be dumb enough to release it at a 300 dollar price tag. I'd say somewhere around $150 bucks. Even with all those extra features on the PSP, it's still going to be marketed as a portable game machine, pure and simple.

No, I think it'll be 300 dollars and I don't think Sony will care, as their fans will eat it up anyway.

"You're good

baby

I'll give you that.....but me? I'm magic!"
-Bullseye

Daredevil movie
Hungry Like the Wolf

thebigword
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Occasional Customer

"Re(6):sony to launch handheld?" , posted Tue 29 Jul 20:39

quote:
ok, dumb was the wrong word to use to describe their console tactics over the past several years. But, if Sony wants to compete with the sales powerhouse of the Gameboy Advance (and you know they do), they won't be dumb enough to release it at a 300 dollar price tag. I'd say somewhere around $150 bucks. Even with all those extra features on the PSP, it's still going to be marketed as a portable game machine, pure and simple.

No, I think it'll be 300 dollars and I don't think Sony will care, as their fans will eat it up anyway.

sigh...time will only tell, I suppose

Gen

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"specs" , posted Wed 30 Jul 03:48:

http://www.zdnet.co.jp/games/gsnews/0307/29/news08.html

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hmm wierd
some of it is over kill (7.1 sound on a portable?), some doesn't make the most sense.

so like 1-2 years after Microsoft will make a portable x-box with 3x these specs.

I want to get a Neo Pocket Color.

[this message was edited by Gen on Wed 30 Jul 03:52]