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| Professor 1869th Post
 
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|  "Plans for MMCafe"
, posted Fri 18 Jul 09:02
I'm doing fine and healthy right now, but due to my busy schedule as a full time working man, it's getting harder and harder to keep a progressive update on the site.
I still keep updates on the major news, but in all honesty, the volume of the news just isn't what it used to be one year back from now. But, I also have absolutely no plans to close it. Considering that, I will most likely go on to make some major revisions on the site. Most essentially, in order to make the news easier to update. It's quite a headache right now. The number of sections in the site is kind of bloated too. Need to do something about the navigation.
The essential parts of the site will be kept intact as they currently are. I am planning on adding an image uploader section, which is a big thing in japanese sites but haven't been happening in an English site yet, as far as I know. Please look forward to the changes.
And sabo10, please don't go overboard and post too-risque stuff when the img uploader goes up.
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| Jazzie D 2001th Post
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| "Re(1):Plans for MMCafe" , posted Fri 18 Jul 12:25
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I'm doing fine and healthy right now, but due to my busy schedule as a full time working man, it's getting harder and harder to keep a progressive update on the site.
I still keep updates on the major news, but in all honesty, the volume of the news just isn't what it used to be one year back from now. But, I also have absolutely no plans to close it. Considering that, I will most likely go on to make some major revisions on the site. Most essentially, in order to make the news easier to update. It's quite a headache right now. The number of sections in the site is kind of bloated too. Need to do something about the navigation.
The essential parts of the site will be kept intact as they currently are. I am planning on adding an image uploader section, which is a big thing in japanese sites but haven't been happening in an English site yet, as far as I know. Please look forward to the changes.
And sabo10, please don't go overboard and post too-risque stuff when the img uploader goes up.
It's nice that you're still up and well. I'll look forward to the new changes. That's for sure.
Takino Tomo-chan - Kimura-sensei why did you become a teacher?
Kimura-sensei - CUZ I LIKE HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS AND STUFF!
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| HazZan 1321th Post
Red Carpet Executive Member
| "Re(1):Plans for MMCafe" , posted Fri 18 Jul 15:27
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I'm doing fine and healthy right now, but due to my busy schedule as a full time working man, it's getting harder and harder to keep a progressive update on the site.
I still keep updates on the major news, but in all honesty, the volume of the news just isn't what it used to be one year back from now. But, I also have absolutely no plans to close it. Considering that, I will most likely go on to make some major revisions on the site. Most essentially, in order to make the news easier to update. It's quite a headache right now. The number of sections in the site is kind of bloated too. Need to do something about the navigation.
The essential parts of the site will be kept intact as they currently are. I am planning on adding an image uploader section, which is a big thing in japanese sites but haven't been happening in an English site yet, as far as I know. Please look forward to the changes.
And sabo10, please don't go overboard and post too-risque stuff when the img uploader goes up.
Nice
 MESSATSU
"I am the one and only true master"
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| iggy 1372th Post
Red Carpet Executive Member
| "Re(1):Plans for MMCafe" , posted Fri 18 Jul 17:01
Good to hear you're fine, there's nothing more important.
I guess there are many sections of the site that can be redone or simply erased since they haven't been updated for years now... I think you should keep the overall design of the site, it's its charm point, it makes it so different from all the other generic pieces of craps of much gaming sites.
I don't know much about it, I guess it would ask too much of work for it, but if you could improve the BBS, it would be really, really nice. It's nice and such, but it's... quite old, compared to what can be found now. And since I think the idea of the image uploader would be quite risky too, a BBS were you could at last but images in the message could maybe be a compromise?
I don't even eat vegetables that are more than two inches long.
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| Hagen de Merak 501th Post
New Red Carpet Member
| "Re(2):Plans for MMCafe" , posted Fri 18 Jul 20:42
quote:
I'm doing fine and healthy right now, but due to my busy schedule as a full time working man, it's getting harder and harder to keep a progressive update on the site.
I still keep updates on the major news, but in all honesty, the volume of the news just isn't what it used to be one year back from now. But, I also have absolutely no plans to close it. Considering that, I will most likely go on to make some major revisions on the site. Most essentially, in order to make the news easier to update. It's quite a headache right now. The number of sections in the site is kind of bloated too. Need to do something about the navigation.
The essential parts of the site will be kept intact as they currently are. I am planning on adding an image uploader section, which is a big thing in japanese sites but haven't been happening in an English site yet, as far as I know. Please look forward to the changes.
And sabo10, please don't go overboard and post too-risque stuff when the img uploader goes up.
Nice
MESSATSU
at least they got street fighter
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| Time Mage 1549th Post
Red Carpet V.I.P- Platinum Member
| "Re(4):Plans for MMCafe" , posted Sat 19 Jul 03:48
I like the image uploader idea, but as Dragon Warrior said, better put some kind of restriction... maybe 1000 posts is too much, 500 would be OK. There are many people who don't post very much but make interesting contributions.
Also, if it's possible, a daily limit could be good, something like x images per day.
About the main site, I've always thought that many sections were dead. I mean, more than half of them hasn't been updated ever since I first visited the cafe.
A good reestructuration without changing the overall mood could be possible, maybe.
Last, and most important, I'm glad you're A-OK!!
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| Dragon-Warrior 964th Post
Red Carpet Regular Member++
| "Re(5):Plans for MMCafe" , posted Sat 19 Jul 04:20
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I like the image uploader idea, but as Dragon Warrior said, better put some kind of restriction... maybe 1000 posts is too much, 500 would be OK. There are many people who don't post very much but make interesting contributions.
Also, if it's possible, a daily limit could be good, something like x images per day.
About the main site, I've always thought that many sections were dead. I mean, more than half of them hasn't been updated ever since I first visited the cafe.
A good reestructuration without changing the overall mood could be possible, maybe.
Last, and most important, I'm glad you're A-OK!!
hmmm.. x images per day sound good
or you can try making
a person with 500 posts can upload 1 image in one day
a person with 1000 posts can upload 3 images per day
but that will make every one very jealous from eric :P
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| Time Mage 1550th Post
Red Carpet V.I.P- Platinum Member
| "Re(3):Plans for MMCafe" , posted Sat 19 Jul 07:12
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Why go by posts when you can go by time registered!
ie anyone registered on the board for < 2 years cannot view the imgboard. Which obviously doesn't include me, HAH.
That's not a good idea, nor the # of posts one is, really.
The best one would be, as Holiday said, nominate who can and who can't. Maybe at first everyone with more than 500 posts and 6 months time registered could put a certain number per day of images on the picture boards, and, accordingly to their behaviour, restrict or expand their privileges.
That would be the best solution, but requires many time for the moderator, a well as constant updating of people status. It could also generate some flame wars about discuted bannings.
What do you think?
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| Juke Joint Jezebel 2088th Post
Platinum Carpet V.I.P- Board Master
|  "Re(6):Plans for MMCafe"
, posted Sat 19 Jul 10:15
i think anyone that's registered here is good enough restriction for upload. it's hard enough trying to register here, and the pictures can also be easily moderated. (moderated hopefully by Professor. if he puts anyone else in charge of that, i'd probably be banned within a day of the arrival of the uploader.) anyways, it's not like all of us will use it every day. sometimes, we'll want to share just a pic or two. and sometimes, we'll have an assload of stuff we'd like to show everyone. if bandwidth's a problem, have the pictures deleted within a few days, i dunno
if i speak at one constant volume, at one constant pitch, at one constant rhythm, right into your ear, you still won't hear
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| DarkZero
150th Post
Regular Customer
| "Re(6):Plans for MMCafe" , posted Sat 19 Jul 10:21
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Not to mention their is the slight fact that the planetps2 servers are in the US, which means you probably can't have nearly as liberal an img uploaded as 2chan....
How so? The only risqué pictures that I saw on 2chan were the ones that the administrators repeatedly deleted. The rest of them were just SvC screenshots, MUGEN screenshots, and art book scans.
And personally, instead of making up fifty different plans for each contingency and creating an enormously bloated authentication system for the image loader that convinces no one to use it, I think it should just be set at a minimum of 100 or 200 message board posts to stop random spammers, with absolutely no restriction on images per day, and then adjusted accordingly as problems arise. If there's a problem with someone posting too many images per day, then an images per day restriction should be implemented. If there's a problem with newer users abusing the system, raise the minimum message board post requirement to 500 or 1000.
In other words, just keep it simple.
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| Radish 1441th Post
Red Carpet Executive Member
| "Re(7):Plans for MMCafe" , posted Sat 19 Jul 10:37:
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Not to mention their is the slight fact that the planetps2 servers are in the US, which means you probably can't have nearly as liberal an img uploaded as 2chan....
How so? The only risqué pictures that I saw on 2chan were the ones that the administrators repeatedly deleted. The rest of them were just SvC screenshots, MUGEN screenshots, and art book scans.
And personally, instead of making up fifty different plans for each contingency and creating an enormously bloated authentication system for the image loader that convinces no one to use it, I think it should just be set at a minimum of 100 or 200 message board posts to stop random spammers, with absolutely no restriction on images per day, and then adjusted accordingly as problems arise. If there's a problem with someone posting too many images per day, then an images per day restriction should be implemented. If there's a problem with newer users abusing the system, raise the minimum message board post requirement to 500 or 1000.
In other words, just keep it simple.
Maybe just having a system where anyone can post anything but there are a few admins who can delete images if something that shouldn't be posted shows up.
I dunno, but I don't think the post count = ability to post images is a very good idea.
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| Saint Rygar
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Regular Customer
| "Re(7):Plans for MMCafe" , posted Sat 19 Jul 10:37
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i think anyone that's registered here is good enough restriction for upload. it's hard enough trying to register here, and the pictures can also be easily moderated. (moderated hopefully by Professor. if he puts anyone else in charge of that, i'd probably be banned within a day of the arrival of the uploader.) anyways, it's not like all of us will use it every day. sometimes, we'll want to share just a pic or two. and sometimes, we'll have an assload of stuff we'd like to show everyone. if bandwidth's a problem, have the pictures deleted within a few days, i dunno
if i speak at one constant volume, at one constant pitch, at one constant rhythm, right into your ear, you still won't hear
Glad to hear the new ideas prof and nice to see you are better 
I think i'm with JJJ on the image uploader stuff maybe limit the # of upload images per day and delete them in a fixed time period.
I don't post much for work and i'm more of a reader type unless something really got my attention but i really want to be able to upload a pic or two every now and then  .
Well in general i'm happy for the new plans for the always nice MMCafe ^_^
There's no one without scars on his heart even if it exist it's just a shadow soul...
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| Variable Savior
175th Post
Regular Customer
| "Re(7):Plans for MMCafe" , posted Sat 19 Jul 10:51
I think the idea of limiting uploading to posters with sufficient post counts and registery time is fine, provided that the person must meet both requirements. If you make it possible for posters to obtain this privilege via post counts your only encouraging new posters to spam. Judging from your reactions to this HaZan person, I don't think you'd want that sort of pointless contribution on a large scale. My 'home' BB has a post count incentive and the moderators have taken action to prevent people from trying to reach the threshold amount via spam. Since the Professor seems to be the only moderator here then a post-centric qualification system would only make significantly more work for him (and he's busy enough it would seem).
The registery limit would serve to discourage spam. If people had to wait 6 months before they could upload then they'd have little incentive to submit a ton of garbage posts to meet the post limit. They could post normally, gradually reaching the limit when they amass the appropriate registery time. That way you could somewhat filter out who is using this service - if people dislike or disagree with the BB's philosophy then they're not likely to stick around for the time limit. This way you don't get people amassing posts in a month, filling the site with crap images, and then deciding they're tired of the place a month later.
As for the post count limit, it would prevent people from reviving derelict account just to upload images. It would also somewhat encourage like minded visitors to get involved in the BB. Just as you don't want people spamming excessively to reach the limit, you don't want people signing up and coming back six months later to anonymously (from a BB identity standpoint at least) terrorize the place with images.
I think something like the proposed 6 month/500 post limit would be ideal. For the very rare instance of a valued poster who doesn't meet these requirements, a private appeal to the Professor could be used to circumvent the restriction (I say private to discourage new posters from pestering the man with inane uploading requests).
Mind you, my motivations for posting this has nothing to do with my status as a long time registeree with a small post count. While I visit this BB quite often, I very rarely post, and have no interest in uploading any images. While others have voiced concerns about picture spamming, my concern is with the quality of written posts on the site. I enjoy coming here to read interesting posts on a number of subjects - I don't want to have to sift through tons of garbage to enjoy what the BB has to offer.
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| vmanofmana
175th Post
Regular Customer
| "Re(9):Plans for MMCafe" , posted Sat 19 Jul 12:05
I'll go for a nomination based-system, for the simple fact that my personal experience is that post count or registration time is not a good way to measure a member. The perfect post count counterexample in this board in HazZan, and as of registration time, there might be people who might become terribly irritating despite being a long poster. Hey, people change.
I'd like to think of the freeloader as a privilege that has to be earned and then maintained. There could be some "board" that selects who goes in and who goes out. The Professor would be of course a member of the board, and maybe he can select 4 other board members according to his criterion. For people to enter the board, there has to be of course a minimal requirment. I'd go for a registration time only requirement, because there is people who might prefer to lurk most of the time. A person who meets the requirement can apply for admission, and if the board approves it (majority vote, maybe?), the user goes in. Once in, they can be kicked out at any time if the board decides the user is going out of the expected behavior.
My two cents. Maybe I am overcomplicating things, but hey, its just an idea ^_^;;
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| Jazzie D 2019th Post
Platinum Carpet V.I.P- Board Master
| "Re(10):Plans for MMCafe" , posted Sat 19 Jul 14:59
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I'll go for a nomination based-system, for the simple fact that my personal experience is that post count or registration time is not a good way to measure a member. The perfect post count counterexample in this board in HazZan, and as of registration time, there might be people who might become terribly irritating despite being a long poster. Hey, people change.
I'd like to think of the freeloader as a privilege that has to be earned and then maintained. There could be some "board" that selects who goes in and who goes out. The Professor would be of course a member of the board, and maybe he can select 4 other board members according to his criterion. For people to enter the board, there has to be of course a minimal requirment. I'd go for a registration time only requirement, because there is people who might prefer to lurk most of the time. A person who meets the requirement can apply for admission, and if the board approves it (majority vote, maybe?), the user goes in. Once in, they can be kicked out at any time if the board decides the user is going out of the expected behavior.
My two cents. Maybe I am overcomplicating things, but hey, its just an idea ^_^;;
You know what? I second this everyone.
Takino Tomo-chan - Kimura-sensei why did you become a teacher?
Kimura-sensei - CUZ I LIKE HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS AND STUFF!
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| Puar 577th Post
New Red Carpet Member
| "Re(10):Plans for MMCafe" , posted Mon 21 Jul 00:45
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I'll go for a nomination based-system, for the simple fact that my personal experience is that post count or registration time is not a good way to measure a member. The perfect post count counterexample in this board in HazZan, and as of registration time, there might be people who might become terribly irritating despite being a long poster. Hey, people change.
I'd like to think of the freeloader as a privilege that has to be earned and then maintained. There could be some "board" that selects who goes in and who goes out. The Professor would be of course a member of the board, and maybe he can select 4 other board members according to his criterion. For people to enter the board, there has to be of course a minimal requirment. I'd go for a registration time only requirement, because there is people who might prefer to lurk most of the time. A person who meets the requirement can apply for admission, and if the board approves it (majority vote, maybe?), the user goes in. Once in, they can be kicked out at any time if the board decides the user is going out of the expected behavior.
My two cents. Maybe I am overcomplicating things, but hey, its just an idea ^_^;;
Well, guess that screws me. I haven't been a highly active member for a bit. By the time I get to the board with anything grand, someone's already beat me to it, so I usually just stick around to interject when someone's wrong or has a query that hasn't been answered yet... Unless Juan's on that Nomination Committee. He's my Lady Dog! ;D
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