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CrazyMike

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"Sony starting to hire emulator programmers" , posted Wed 16 Jul 20:42

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/news/news_6071766.html

Funny, this is the company that wanted PC Bleem off the market and put an end to Bleem going beyond getting any other games besides Metal Gear Solid, Gran Turismo 2, and Tekken 3 to play on the Dreamcast.

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Omar
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"Re(1):Sony starting to hire emulator programm" , posted Wed 16 Jul 22:49:

quote:
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/news/news_6071766.html

Funny, this is the company that wanted PC Bleem off the market and put an end to Bleem going beyond getting any other games besides Metal Gear Solid, Gran Turismo 2, and Tekken 3 to play on the Dreamcast.

Not funny at all. Sony just thinks it's cool to emulate their games and their hardware on their own hardware for their own profit, not someone else's.

I stil think developers should have used Bleem. Imagine buying a PSX game that has the integrated Bleem version for developers, so you could just play it on the PSOne and the PC or the Dreamcast.

Too bad no one used that option.

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[this message was edited by Omar on Wed 16 Jul 22:49]

CrazyMike

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"Re(2):Sony starting to hire emulator programm" , posted Wed 16 Jul 23:18

I can understand a company going after roms, but really, the Bleem lawsuit was ridiculous. How many people *really* were buying Bleem and not a Playstation? On the same token, game companies make their money from software which Bleem required the games, so Sony still wins in the end. The argument can be made that emulators allow back up copies to be played, but so do modchips for the physical hardware.

Fygee

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"Re(3):Sony starting to hire emulator programm" , posted Wed 16 Jul 23:26

Sony could never touch Bleem! because it contained no copyrighted software (primarily the PS1 BIOS). Bleem! ended up winning, but all the court costs, and a rather inept development team ended up causing them to close.

This....well, I have mixed feelings about this.

Grave

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"Re(2):Sony starting to hire emulator programm" , posted Wed 16 Jul 23:37

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I stil think developers should have used Bleem. Imagine buying a PSX game that has the integrated Bleem version for developers, so you could just play it on the PSOne and the PC or the Dreamcast.

Except the version of Bleem I used on my PC was very, very far from perfect. If I were Sony, I know I'd hate the idea of perfect emulation from someone else, but imperfect would probably bother me even more.

Virtual Game Station, though, that was trouble. I'm still looking for a copy of the final Mac version. Never used the PC version, but the Mac version ran perfectly on a decent G3. PowerBook G3 with USB controller adapters is the original portable PS, heheh.

CrazyMike

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"Re(3):Sony starting to hire emulator programm" , posted Wed 16 Jul 23:56

Virtual Game Station rules, its just as smooth on the PC, just no 3d hardware acceleration.

By the way, Sony acquired the rights to VGS by buying them out.

Omar
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"Re(4):Sony starting to hire emulator programm" , posted Thu 17 Jul 14:04

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Virtual Game Station rules, its just as smooth on the PC, just no 3d hardware acceleration.

By the way, Sony acquired the rights to VGS by buying them out.

Oh yes, VGS really rocked on both plataforms.

It was such a dissapointment seeing Sony buying the software, cause it's obvious all they wanted was to get it out of the market.

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How many people *really* were buying Bleem and not a Playstation? On the same token, game companies make their money from software which Bleem required the games, so Sony still wins in the end. The argument can be made that emulators allow back up copies to be played, but so do modchips for the physical hardware.

I agree, but I think what Sony might have wanted was to set an example so future developers didn't try to do something as Bleem! in the future.

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Except the version of Bleem I used on my PC was very, very far from perfect. If I were Sony, I know I'd hate the idea of perfect emulation from someone else, but imperfect would probably bother me even more.

Definitively, Bleem! was very far from perfect, but what the guys at Bleem! were offering to developers was a version that could only run a single game, (like the Bleempacks for Dreamcast) in the same CD as the PSOne game. That way it would run it as good as possible since it only emulates a single game. Not just that, I belive the idea was to make it look like it wasn't being emulated, that the game itself seemed to be ported to te PC and that both versions were on the same CD.

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