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Fuchikoma

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"Anime series that deserve to be finished" , posted Tue 15 Jul 02:54

As I was watching the 76th and final episode of Hajime no Ippo today... I found myself wondering how on earth such a great show got cancelled. It easily makes it into my top 10 greatest ever list... and with 25 volumes of manga currently... there's so much more to cover... Ippo and Miyata's rematch... Takamura going for the world title... I'd like to read the manga but the chapters that take place after the anime aren't translated. Oh well, at least there's still the Champion Road special.

So yeah I was thinking this happens pretty often... a show is cut right in the middle of the story. Berserk was a show that definitely should have continued, although maybe at the time they had caught up with the manga... even now the manga is in this whole witches and trolls story arch, I want a Griffith/Gutts deathmatch! There's enough material now though for a second season.

Even super popular shows like Love Hina and Kenshin were cut short, but at least they had OAVs to tie up the loose ends.

So what are some other shows that died before their time?

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Dragon-warrior

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"Re(1):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Tue 15 Jul 03:06:

well the only series that really gets boaring is Inuyasha cuz when you reach 70's episode , the story stops (almost) and the rest 30 episode are just so so boaring.
same goes to Ranma 1/2 which had a very good start then in the 3rd season the series quality just falls.
I wish one piece to continue , the series is more than 150 episodes and it is alwasy getting cooler, Naruto look good so far.

[this message was edited by Dragon-warrior on Tue 15 Jul 03:12]

Ammadeau

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"Re(2):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Tue 15 Jul 03:16

Tenamonya Voyagers - Four utterly incredible episodes that lead up to a climax which never happens.

Dual - It's actually complete as is, but 13 eps is way too little for such great characters.

Olivier Hagué
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"Re(1):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Tue 15 Jul 03:17

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Berserk was a show that definitely should have continued

1) They couldn't: not enough material
2) It was a mediocre adaptation of a great manga anyway, in my opinion

ShadowSonic
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"Re(1):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Tue 15 Jul 03:43

Hellsing.

13 episodes is WAY too short for such a complex and confusing thing as the Hellsing storyline. After watching I was left thinking "WTF just happened?"

I wrote a review of it here:
http://sg.geocities.com/sonicbeyond/jm_review_hellsing.html

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"Re(1):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Tue 15 Jul 04:05

I think you mistake japanese and american television. When a show stops in japan, it's most of the time because it was intended to stop there. When you adapt a manga that's not finished yet, either you create lousy side stories (and the show becomes boring as hell, see Ranma) or you finish right in the middle of the story (see Berserk). I never heard any show was cancelled in Japan the way, say, Farscape was in the US.

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DarkZero
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"Re(2):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Tue 15 Jul 04:25

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I think you mistake japanese and american television. When a show stops in japan, it's most of the time because it was intended to stop there. When you adapt a manga that's not finished yet, either you create lousy side stories (and the show becomes boring as hell, see Ranma) or you finish right in the middle of the story (see Berserk). I never heard any show was cancelled in Japan the way, say, Farscape was in the US.

Anime have been cancelled in Japan like Farscape was cancelled in the US, but it just doesn't happen often, and they're usually more receptive to bringing the show back. Mobile Suit Gundam and Big O are the most infamous examples. Mobile Suit Gundam was cancelled in a manner much like Farscape just a few episodes before it was supposed to end properly. It just stopped, right where it was, and was replaced by another show. They managed to revive it as a movie series though and the whole franchise took off from there. Big O, similarly, was just plain cancelled. It was supposed to be a full 26 episode or longer series, but WoWoW decided not to finance any more episodes beyond 13, which effectively cancelled the show and left it at sort of a cliffhanger. Cartoon Network decided to finance the rest of the season themselves and now, more than three years after the show was cancelled, the second season is going to premiere on American TV and then probably get a Japanese release later on.

Gundam X was cancelled too, but it got the more common polite Japanese TV treatment. The production staff was told that the show was cancelled, but they were given three episodes to finish the show up before it went off the air. So Gundam X has a rushed ending, but supposedly it doesn't feel that way unless you know that it was cancelled. Then again, it can't feel any more rushed than Kikaider. I have no idea what happened there. Good ending, but it came out of nowhere.

Olivier Hagué
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"Re(3):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Tue 15 Jul 04:37

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Mobile Suit Gundam and Big O are the most infamous examples.

And "Uchû Senkan Yamato", if I'm not mistaken?

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"Re(4):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Tue 15 Jul 05:14

Vandread the Second Stage wasn't cancelled, but it was too rushed after the great pacing of the first series...

And where are the rest of the Nakoruru ovas they promised!!!

Radish

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"Re(5):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Tue 15 Jul 07:10

The only one I can think of that was jutingly cut was Elf Princess Rane or whatever. Not even sure if they made more than two or they just didn't translate them.

I guess it's debatable if it was good enough to be finished....

Freeter

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"Re(5):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Tue 15 Jul 07:14

Captain Tylor- just when the two opposing armies join forces to fight a bigger evil, it ends. There should've been more.

Kare Kano - if it's true that this series has no real conclusion, then it needs one.

Fuchikoma

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"Re(6):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Tue 15 Jul 10:54

Small correction to what I said... I mean Hajime no Ippo is on volume 65! There certainly was tons of more material for the anime to follow, it only ended just last year and the Champion Road Special was this year.

It's funny that even some stuff that's not translated from any manga gets the cut as well. Final Fantasy Unlimited was axed, but in that case I'm glad they did

Toxico

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"Re(2):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Tue 15 Jul 12:27

I don't know about the quality of the show; but Gundam X was denied of 10 chapters because if was shadowed by the shallow Gundam Wing... After knowing that Gundam X uses the "post war trauma" that I feel so much like my story I didn't like that decision.

Gojira

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"Re(1):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Tue 15 Jul 15:19

Many shows go on for entirely too long, IMHO. If Tylor had ended with the last TV episode I would have been perfectly happy, but the OAV screwed that up.

At any rate, I do have a couple...

Big O - I'm assuming that the next season is still on? If not, that would be a huge shame what with the way the first season tied up and all...

Princess Nine - I know it isn't the greatest sports anime ever and the characters have some weird faces, but it was decent for a while (and translated sports animes are rare in the US for whatever reason). The way it ends is just... wrong, though. The fact that there's no followup just makes me more uncomfortable.

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DarkZero
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"Re(2):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Tue 15 Jul 15:36

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Big O - I'm assuming that the next season is still on? If not, that would be a huge shame what with the way the first season tied up and all...

They're running the unedited dub of Big O's first season at midnight on Cartoon Network right now and the second season should start in early to mid August, right after it goes through the first season for a second time. I can't remember the exact date, though.

I'm a little surprised by the unedited dub, though. I'd never got around to picking up the DVDs and was pretty surprised to find that the pronunciation of "Megadeus" as "Megadeuce" was an error and not an edit. Still a great dub otherwise, though.

OYashiroForever

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"Re(1):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Tue 15 Jul 17:56

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So what are some other shows that died before their time?

Berserk + Bastard!!: Both series only cover the first major arc of their source material's storyline and end on a cliffhanger. <grumble>

Bastard!! holds a special place in my heart as it was one of the first series I watched 10+ years ago when I got in to anime (that and Tenchi).

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BlackNinjaVinny

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"Re(2):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Tue 15 Jul 18:45

Hellsing MUST have more episodes!!! I hope it gets a second season once the manga finishes. What's up witht he manga anyways? I've had volume 4 forever and all the manga stores in Little Tokyo never have anymore. Did it stop for a while?
If they do make another season, it must include the Millenium Society. Incognito was so gay. Vampire Nazis on the other hand. And an animated Rip Van Winkle ^_^
And there would have to be a whole flashback episode dedicated to Young Walter, the coolest character ever!!
Hellsing in the good ol' days :)
As for Gundam X getting cancelled, thank God! The show seemed so meaningless to me. They were doing absolutely nothing for most of it. It seemed every other episode Tifa was captured. In between those episodes, the whole crew was captured or Garoad did something stupid.
And I would give my left nut to see my Cyborg 009 made. They recently made a third episode to the God's War series, which is cool. The story was written by the manga's author on his dead bed. But between that and the end of the normal anime, there is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much more to include.
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Gen

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"Re(1):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Tue 15 Jul 21:44

R.G. VEDA

exodus

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"Re(2):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Tue 15 Jul 21:54

Berzerk

Fairy Princess Ren

Angel Sanctuary

Notice how mine were all actually cancelled/ran out of money. w00t.

Gen

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"Re(3):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Tue 15 Jul 23:05

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Fairy Princess Ren

Was this the 2 episode comedy with 2 fairies?

threesixtee

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"Re(1):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Tue 15 Jul 23:07

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Even super popular shows like Love Hina and Kenshin were cut short, but at least they had OAVs to tie up the loose ends.

kinda funny how you mention these two, because I would STILL like to see proper endings to both of these shows. kenshin was cut short because of the crappy non-manga storyline they tried, and even the final oav doesn't cover all that was lost. and love hina again stinks because they try to compress the entire kanako story arc (three volumes of manga) into three half-hour oavs... and the final final end of love hina from the manga has yet to see any screentime.

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exodus

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"Re(4):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Wed 16 Jul 00:19

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Fairy Princess Ren
Was this the 2 episode comedy with 2 fairies?

Hmmm...I think there was only one fairy? I forget now >_<

But it had lots of nonsense speech and silliness. And it was only 2 eps, as you mentioned.

Gen

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"Re(5):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Wed 16 Jul 00:54

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Fairy Princess Ren
Was this the 2 episode comedy with 2 fairies?

Hmmm...I think there was only one fairy? I forget now >_<

But it had lots of nonsense speech and silliness. And it was only 2 eps, as you mentioned.

The fairy is found by the main male human character. Then later the 2nd fairy is met by the main female human character.

The sub titlers put a bunch of backwards writing that's hard to read on some parts. I guess they couldn't translat it and so they put nonsense like how much wood would a wood chuck chuck. Which was funny.

It had some qualities, that if it were several episodes longer, in the future it would probably get to be considered at least a semi-classic.

I saw this 2ice at 2 different Anime Expo. The second one that I saw it- when it came on I stuck around thinking it might be interesting for be to compare the 2 crowd reactions; and there wasn't that much interesting in the other video rooms..
The first time the crowd laughed more (and the crowd seemed to be healthier anyway...) The last time there was less laughing (but a smaller crowd)..
The first time there was more comedy lead in I think, which may have put the crowd in a better mood, and it may have been a bit earlier in the night.
This last time, I recall someone saying that they only made 2 episodes and that was it. Then after someone saying that it was good and they should make more..

The guy with the falling hair was pretty funny..

Fuchikoma

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"Re(6):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Wed 16 Jul 02:30

I was talking to a friend about this today and he brought up a show that I had totally forgotten, the Dragon Half OAV. That still remains one of the funniest anime I've ever seen... so much lost potential with that one.

Dragon-warrior

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"Re(7):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Wed 16 Jul 02:51

I just have a question for a very old anime!
did combattler V finished or did they remove it from the TV?

GekigangerV

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"Re(8):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Wed 16 Jul 08:44

What I want is an Initial D 4th Stage. The manga still continued after the Kogashiwa Kai story arc and the ending of 3rd stage just leaves us open for the conclusion to one of the best damn animes ever. I keep hearing all these rumors of a release date and I just wanna know whether or not the Initial D fans get the 4th stage the fans and the series itself deserves.

I see Inuyasha in the manga right now in probably of one of it's last 3-5 story lines. I heard Shonen Sunday only allows a 40 volume limit to the mangas they publish and they released eitehr 33 or 34 in Japan just recentley. So we're bound to see Inuyasha end sooner or later and I see the anime series to go at least 200 episodes. The Shichinin-tai story arc in the anime is going to end somewhere sooner or later and we'll probably get like 10 episodes of filler then starts the next major story, Princess Abi.

I heard Gundam X was canceled because they were showing it at like 5am and nobody watched it or something. I don't know if that's true and I've only seen the first 4 episodes. I'm just stating what I heard. Gundam SEED is heading to it's conclusion and I'm just excited to see how it will end. I wonder if Lau La Kuruze has a sister like how Char and Zechs did, and I wonder if we'll ever know a real name of Lau La Kuruze. So far into the series and he's still one of the biggest enigmas.

As for Ranma 1/2, I heard the anime was not that popular at all in Japan and didn't live up to the manga. I heard the series almost got canceled during it's first season and the only way that they saved the series was to introduce Shampoo much early and the ratings went up obviously because Shampoo is one of the most popular characters in Japan. The manga was still a hit in Japan and lasted up to 4 more years longer than the anime. ::boo to kitty film for never introducing saffron in the anime::

Inuyasha took a new direction with the anime (I also heard rumors of Kitty Film going out of business or something like that), such as Sunrise doing the animation and having Avex Trax with main stream Japanese singers doing the opening and outros. I guess a new direction for Takahashi anime's was what brough the Inuyasha anime to a big boom. I'm still excited to see how Inuyasha and the gang finally defeat the evil forces of Naraku as I anticipate that it draws near soon. I'm still excited to see the final fight between Inuyasha and Bankotsu in the anime version.

I've always wanted to see Hajime No Ippou. Is like Ashita no Joe or something (another anime I've never seen, but have played the Punchmania edition to)? Some sort of boxing anime I guess. Was that made in the 1970's, too?

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Freeter

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"Re(9):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Wed 16 Jul 09:56

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What I want is an Initial D 4th Stage. The manga still continued after the Kogashiwa Kai story arc and the ending of 3rd stage just leaves us open for the conclusion to one of the best damn animes ever. I keep hearing all these rumors of a release date and I just wanna know whether or not the Initial D fans get the 4th stage the fans and the series itself deserves.

It was supposed to leave things open, because the director himself said so during the special. He talked about Initial D being "evolution", and said there will be a 4th, 5th, and 6th Stage.

GekigangerV

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"Re(10):Anime series that deserve to be finish" , posted Wed 16 Jul 11:58

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What I want is an Initial D 4th Stage. The manga still continued after the Kogashiwa Kai story arc and the ending of 3rd stage just leaves us open for the conclusion to one of the best damn animes ever. I keep hearing all these rumors of a release date and I just wanna know whether or not the Initial D fans get the 4th stage the fans and the series itself deserves.

It was supposed to leave things open, because the director himself said so during the special. He talked about Initial D being "evolution", and said there will be a 4th, 5th, and 6th Stage.

Wait a second what specail? Is it battle stage? Or the one with Tsuchiya Keiichi??? And there will be up to a 6th stage, too? That's pretty cool. But I just wanna know the possible release dates.

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Freeter

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"Re(2):Re(10):Anime series that deserve to be " , posted Wed 16 Jul 16:21

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Wait a second what specail? Is it battle stage? Or the one with Tsuchiya Keiichi??? And there will be up to a 6th stage, too? That's pretty cool. But I just wanna know the possible release dates.

It was the "making of" feature that came with the movie. The director said the message at the end of the film was to let fans know that the series will continue.

jmcc
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"On the subject of Big O." , posted Thu 17 Jul 07:11

If everyone's seen it already, sorry, but I thought it was worth mentioning that several characters are in the new(?) Super Robot Wars game on GBA. See also: http://space.virgilio.it/ocicale/Video/BigGBA.mpg

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"Re(8):Anime series that deserve to be finishe" , posted Thu 17 Jul 22:31

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I just have a question for a very old anime!
did combattler V finished or did they remove it from the TV?

I'm not 100% sure, but for what I know the series does meet an end.
Also for what I know, some of the temathics of the series are inherited by Voltus V.

Sano
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"Re(1):On the subject of Big O." , posted Thu 17 Jul 22:39

Flame of Recca comes to mind.

I honestly don't understand Japanese Anime Fans. I didn't like the TV Anime for Ranma 1/2 as much as the Manga, (to many filler episodes of my favorite character Ryoga getting beat up by old people, kids and punks when he's supposed to be Ranma's rival)but I loved the Movies and OVAS. When fans were polled which storyline they wanted Animated, they picked that "Akane to Remember" story. What's wrong with them? Why not the Story with Herb where Ryoga and Mousse kick major Ass! Well, I guess Ranma has a lot of fans who want to see Ranma and Akane hold hands.

Maybe someday they'll Animate the last Manga story I hope.