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| Burning Ranger 410th Post
 
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, posted Sun 13 Jul 00:25
I liked the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie. I loved the additions that were made, and even the altered storyline is good too. I think the reason they changed the storyline was to allow it to fit into a 'real-world' scenario (the comic was set in an alternate universe where Britain was far more advanced than it really was in the late 1800s). Still, it wasn't bad at all. My friend said that it was probably one of the best action films she has seen this year. I think I agree.
It's funny. When I heard of the premise of the movie before it was developed (this was about 2 years ago), I was so intrigued that I went out and bought the comic. After I read that, I had an interest in victorian literature and I began to read the old Sherlock Holmes (which plays a big role in the LoEG Universe), HG Wells "Invisible Man" and Jules Verne stories. Now, after seeing the movie, I want to read more of Sherlock Holmes, and maybe read Dracula again, or if possible, the original Alan Quartermain stories.
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| Dr Baghead 2374th Post
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| "nitpicky!" , posted Sun 13 Jul 16:22:
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I just want to get this out of my system. One common complaint I've heard is people who are upset that some of the characters have been altered from the League graphic novel to the movie. I just wanted to say this doesn't bother me at all because these aren't characters that were created by Alan Moore and Kevin O'Neill. I also think I'm the only one who liked the addition of Tom Sawyer (based on what I've read at other places).
(this will contain spoilers to some degree and don't fell like covering them, those who care have no been warned)
Even if Alan Moore and Kevin O'Neil didn't create the characters a lot of changes were made that original creators never intended.
Granted the comic itself went againist the originals but those could be explained most of the time (either faked deaths to keep out of the public eye, or Hyde's change in size/apperance being because of changes in Jekyl's body)
(as I've not seen the movie, and won't for sometime as I've no money I'm judging by reviews and mostly the trailers here, but even that is enough)
Mina for example seems to be a stereotype "sexy vampiress", her dress allows her chest to viewed nicely, she turns into bats, drinks blood, heals wounds, rubs her self... which is all well and good, except it completely goes againist EVERYTHING her character was. I seem to recall Bram Stoker's version of Mina being a respectable lady who certainly had no superpowers. (I'm also a bit upset she seems to have been demoted from team leader to "token female" in favore of Conery's Quatermain, but that's forgivable) The changes to Mina would be as if in the next Batman movie Batman turned into 100 foot tall green dragon when angry who shot bat-shaped fire balls out of his nose.... awesome? Hell yes! but is it Batman? Certainly not.
Dorian Gray's painting only keeps him young and beautiful in the original story (as he says "I wish I could look as I do in this painting forever!") yet the trailers show him walking throw hailing gun fire like it was marshmallow rain... I guess one could assume the painting could allow him such inviciblity, but it still seems silly (actually given the liberities with his and Mina's ablity's, am I wrong to assume the overall plot has the Leauge acting more as "superheroes" then "crimefighters"? There is a difference and I don't think enough people acknowledge that).... do the villian by any chance consider destroying Gray's painting either? That would be like crushing the green lantern's lantern... only instead of not letting him recharge causing his powers to slowly fade away, it would make every wound he should have obtain suddenly appear on his body, killing him what could potentially be an awesome special effect.
One could also argue Tom Sawyer had a lot of changes made to him... since in the books he was supposed to be trained to grow up to become a gentleman of high enough status to marry Becky, an FBI (or whatever) agent certainly doesn't count as such... but since we never actually get to see Tom grow up plans might have changed and this was his destiny, so it doesn't matter really.
But I'm just nitpicking really, what really matter is:
How awesome looking was the Natalus? Because it was pretty awesome in the comic.
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| Hungrywolf 2105th Post
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| "Re(1):nitpicky!" , posted Sun 13 Jul 17:56
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I just want to get this out of my system. One common complaint I've heard is people who are upset that some of the characters have been altered from the League graphic novel to the movie. I just wanted to say this doesn't bother me at all because these aren't characters that were created by Alan Moore and Kevin O'Neill. I also think I'm the only one who liked the addition of Tom Sawyer (based on what I've read at other places).
(this will contain spoilers to some degree and don't fell like covering them, those who care have no been warned)
Even if Alan Moore and Kevin O'Neil didn't create the characters a lot of changes were made that original creators never intended.
Granted the comic itself went againist the originals but those could be explained most of the time (either faked deaths to keep out of the public eye, or Hyde's change in size/apperance being because of changes in Jekyl's body)
(as I've not seen the movie, and won't for sometime as I've no money I'm judging by reviews and mostly the trailers here, but even that is enough)
Mina for example seems to be a stereotype "sexy vampiress", her dress allows her chest to viewed nicely, she turns into bats, drinks blood, heals wounds, rubs her self... which is all well and good, except it completely goes againist EVERYTHING her character was. I seem to recall Bram Stoker's version of Mina being a respectable lady who certainly had no superpowers. (I'm also a bit upset she seems to have been demoted from team leader to "token female" in favore of Conery's Quatermain, but that's forgivable) The changes to Mina would be as if in the next Batman movie Batman turned into 100 foot tall green dragon when angry who shot bat-shaped fire balls out of his nose.... awesome? Hell yes! but is it Batman? Certainly not.
Dorian Gray's painting only keeps him young and beautiful in the original story (as he says "I wish I could look as I do in this painting forever!") yet the trailers show him walking throw hailing gun fire like it was marshmallow rain... I guess one could assume the painting could allow him such inviciblity, but it still seems silly (actually given the liberities with his and Mina's ablity's, am I wrong to assume the overall plot has the Leauge acting more as "superheroes" then "crimefighters"? There is a difference and I don't think enough people acknowledge that).... do the villian by any chance consider destroying Gray's painting either? That would be like crushing the green lantern's lantern... only instead of not letting him recharge causing his powers to slowly fade away, it would make every wound he should have obtain suddenly appear on his body, killing him what could potentially be an awesome special effect.
One could also argue Tom Sawyer had a lot of changes made to him... since in the books he was supposed to be trained to grow up to become a gentleman of high enough status to marry Becky, an FBI (or whatever) agent certainly doesn't count as such... but since we never actually get to see Tom grow up plans might have changed and this was his destiny, so it doesn't matter really.
But I'm just nitpicking really, what really matter is:
How awesome looking was the Natalus? Because it was pretty awesome in the comic.
As much as people complain about the changes in Mina in the movie, the whole time I read vol. 1 of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen I thought she was going to turn out to be a vampire. I liked the book, but didn't like the way the characters in it were portrayed, because I really couldn't bring myself to like any of them save for Mina (at least in the book). I suggest watching the movie before nitpicking things though. I really didn't watch the movie expecting it to be like the comics so I enjoyed it a lot.
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| Burning Ranger 411th Post
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| "Re(2):nitpicky!" , posted Sun 13 Jul 18:35
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As much as people complain about the changes in Mina in the movie, the whole time I read vol. 1 of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen I thought she was going to turn out to be a vampire. I liked the book, but didn't like the way the characters in it were portrayed, because I really couldn't bring myself to like any of them save for Mina (at least in the book). I suggest watching the movie before nitpicking things though. I really didn't watch the movie expecting it to be like the comics so I enjoyed it a lot.
Well, in the original comic, vol. 1, Mina's background isn't openly revealed, except for the when Campion Bond says that she was "ravished by a foreign gentleman." It isn't until Vol. 2 when Mina gives hints to what really happened to her, and even then she only tells Quartermain.
But even in the movie, Mina, for the most part, is respectable and well mannered. It's only when she has a bloodlust that she is enraged.
What I especially liked were all of the references to other Victorian-era stories, just like the original comic had. Just for fun, I'll list a few (SPOILERS AHEAD):
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Quartermain's remark about Phileas Fogg and Around the World in 80 Days by Jules Verne.
Nemo's second mate is Ishmael, and when he first introduces himself, he says "Call me Ishmael." This is the same Ishmael from Melville's "Moby Dick."
Inside League Headquarters, you see paintings of other individuals. These are members of an older LoEG. This is just like the pictures in the original comic series.
"M" was the name of the League's boss. This could be a throwback to the James Bond novels, where the head of the British Secret Service was named M. Also, in the Comic, the League's contact was not directly with M, but with a man named Campion Bond. Some speculate he may be an ancestor of James Bond. Campion did not appear in the movie.
And finally, and this is really a spoiler, M, who was really Professor James Moriarty, who was the nemesis of Sherlock Holmes. Supposedly, Moriarty and Holmes died after falling off a water fall in Reichenbach (which was mentioned in the movie and shown in a flashback in the comic).
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