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"For the SvC hidden character pessimists" , posted Thu 10 Jul 08:44post reply


be-hold



On a totally different note, looks like it'll make some good cat tuna.






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"Re(1):For the SvC hidden character pessimists" , posted Thu 10 Jul 08:58post reply


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be-hold



And, ummm... Why behold, may I ask? Thre's nothing new there, except from some damn good looking screens...

Am I missing something?





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"Re(1):For the SvC hidden character pessimists" , posted Thu 10 Jul 09:02post reply


Is Geese doing Rock's version of Raging Storm?





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"Re(1):For the SvC hidden character pessimists" , posted Thu 10 Jul 09:20post reply


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be-hold






Sigh. My fault. I thought "For the SvC hidden character pessimists" was the same thing as "For the SvC 'there will be no more new characters introduced besides the ones already discovered in the beta so far' pessimists".

...there were still people that didn't believe Geese was in the game? ^^;





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"Re(2):For the SvC hidden character pessimists" , posted Thu 10 Jul 09:28post reply


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Sigh. My fault. I thought "For the SvC hidden character pessimists" was the same thing as "For the SvC 'there will be no more new characters introduced besides the ones already discovered in the beta so far' pessimists".



Heh, that's my case, too. Now i get it. It supposedly means that Geese, Dan, Demitri and CO are really there, but the title is pretty ambiguous. I was expecting new characters... what a dissappointment...





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"Re(3):For the SvC hidden character pessimists" , posted Thu 10 Jul 10:11post reply


I don't know how Earthquake generated that cloud of green vapor but it looks unpleasant.





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"Re(4):For the SvC hidden character pessimists" , posted Thu 10 Jul 10:20post reply


Ryu got May Lee syndrome with that gigantic hurricane kick.

Someone tell Playmore to scale that sprite down.





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"Re(5):For the SvC hidden character pessimists" , posted Thu 10 Jul 10:38post reply


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Ryu got May Lee syndrome with that gigantic hurricane kick.

Someone tell Playmore to scale that sprite down.



At least they don't have it as extreme as Blanka, or Balrog. The length of their arms in CVS2 is just... disgusting. It's almost like Akira.





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"Well..." , posted Thu 10 Jul 11:11post reply


at least Geese is actually in it. Shame they can't put Geese in another fighter other than the crossovers though.





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"Re(1):Well..." , posted Thu 10 Jul 13:44post reply


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at least Geese is actually in it. Shame they can't put Geese in another fighter other than the crossovers though.




Well, if Rock's mother is still alive, maybe Geese is, too :P Not like SNK hasn't retroactively revived bosses before. Both Geese and Krauser were supposed to be dead then came back to life, after all (Geese did it twice!). Oh, and Krizalid, too.





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"Re(2):Well..." , posted Thu 10 Jul 13:45post reply


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at least Geese is actually in it. Shame they can't put Geese in another fighter other than the crossovers though.



Well, if Rock's mother is still alive, maybe Geese is, too :P Not like SNK hasn't retroactively revived bosses before. Both Geese and Krauser were supposed to be dead then came back to life, after all (Geese did it twice!). Oh, and Krizalid, too.



Oh, was Krauser supposed to have died? I didn't know that for sure, I know he did in the anime. But as for Geese being in non-crossover fighters, he was in KoF EX Neoblood. He he he.






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"Re(3):Well..." , posted Thu 10 Jul 14:04post reply


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But as for Geese being in non-crossover fighters, he was in KoF EX Neoblood. He he he.



He was also in Real Bout 2. I guess Hell couldn't handle Howard





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"Re(3):Well..." , posted Thu 10 Jul 14:05post reply


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Oh, was Krauser supposed to have died? I didn't know that for sure, I know he did in the anime. But as for Geese being in non-crossover fighters, he was in KoF EX Neoblood. He he he.





It was stated after Fatal Fury 2 that Krauser was said to have committed suicide. I'm not sure if SNK ever said directly beyond that that he died, but I'm pretty sure they meant for him to be dead. Why?

In an interview with the director of the Fatal Fury anime, the director said that he loved the anime version of Krauser so much that he was going to have Krauser live at the end of the anime. But SNK pretty much FORCED him to have Krauser die, saying that he had to because then it'd like, deviate from the fighting game storyline too much or something like that. So I'm pretty sure that Krauser was meant to be dead after FF2. Course, then later on, SNK brought Krauser back for KOF 96 ^_~





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"Re(4):Well..." , posted Thu 10 Jul 14:25post reply


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He was also in Real Bout 2. I guess Hell couldn't handle Howard :devil:



There probably weren't enough buildings down there :P





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"Re(1):For the SvC hidden character pessimists" , posted Thu 10 Jul 17:42post reply


They made the sputnik and now they use food er cats for security. Yikes.

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"Re(4):Well..." , posted Thu 10 Jul 19:00post reply


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Oh, was Krauser supposed to have died? I didn't know that for sure, I know he did in the anime. But as for Geese being in non-crossover fighters, he was in KoF EX Neoblood. He he he.




It was stated after Fatal Fury 2 that Krauser was said to have committed suicide. I'm not sure if SNK ever said directly beyond that that he died, but I'm pretty sure they meant for him to be dead. Why?

In an interview with the director of the Fatal Fury anime, the director said that he loved the anime version of Krauser so much that he was going to have Krauser live at the end of the anime. But SNK pretty much FORCED him to have Krauser die, saying that he had to because then it'd like, deviate from the fighting game storyline too much or something like that. So I'm pretty sure that Krauser was meant to be dead after FF2. Course, then later on, SNK brought Krauser back for KOF 96 ^_~



Where was it stated? I don't remember it being in the ending of FF2 and I don't remember him dying other than in the anime. As for SNK forcing them not keep him alive because it'd deviate from the game story, the anime's already deviated plenty before that so it shouldn't have mattered.






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"Re(5):Well..." , posted Thu 10 Jul 22:24post reply


Grumble... he didn't even die in the game, he faked his suicide to draw Geese out in to the open or something equally nonsensical. Fatal Fury Special and Fatal Fury 2 are essentially the same game, one is just more "complete" story-line wise.






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"Re(4):For the SvC hidden character pessimists" , posted Fri 11 Jul 03:46post reply


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I don't know how Earthquake generated that cloud of green vapor but it looks unpleasant.


Yes, you know where it comes, and yes, it's umpleasant. Too bad Zero (KOF 2000) isn't there to tag with him.





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"Re(1):For the SvC hidden character pessimists" , posted Fri 11 Jul 06:50post reply


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On a totally different note, looks like it'll make some good cat tuna.

I didn't know dan was gonna be in there.

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"Re(6):Well..." , posted Fri 11 Jul 09:21post reply


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Grumble... he didn't even die in the game, he faked his suicide to draw Geese out in to the open or something equally nonsensical. Fatal Fury Special and Fatal Fury 2 are essentially the same game, one is just more "complete" story-line wise.





What was the release date of Fatal Fury Special? I imagine that was to explain the suicide statements after Fatal Fury 2 or something. Would be a perfect opportunity for SNK to either ret-con or explain away something they've decided to take back on. But at least this confirms the suicide thing isn't completely made up.

As for when it was stated in Fatal Fury 2, honestly, I'm not sure. I got that from people that know a lot more about SNK storylines than I do. But the whole interview thing is correct. As for why SNK would insist on it not deviating from their canon so much, I don't know, but that's what the director of the anime supposedly said.





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"Re(7):Well..." , posted Fri 11 Jul 09:36post reply


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Grumble... he didn't even die in the game, he faked his suicide to draw Geese out in to the open or something equally nonsensical. Fatal Fury Special and Fatal Fury 2 are essentially the same game, one is just more "complete" story-line wise.




What was the release date of Fatal Fury Special? I imagine that was to explain the suicide statements after Fatal Fury 2 or something. Would be a perfect opportunity for SNK to either ret-con or explain away something they've decided to take back on. But at least this confirms the suicide thing isn't completely made up.

As for when it was stated in Fatal Fury 2, honestly, I'm not sure. I got that from people that know a lot more about SNK storylines than I do. But the whole interview thing is correct. As for why SNK would insist on it not deviating from their canon so much, I don't know, but that's what the director of the anime supposedly said.



Well, from playing Fatal Fury 2, it was never stated in that game that Krauser died or committed suicide. I'd have to play through Special again but I thought Special was just a dreammatch and not really canon, but I guess I'm wrong. Where did you hear the information though? Just word of mouth? I'm just curious.






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"Re(8):Well..." , posted Fri 11 Jul 09:46post reply


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Well, from playing Fatal Fury 2, it was never stated in that game that Krauser died or committed suicide. I'd have to play through Special again but I thought Special was just a dreammatch and not really canon, but I guess I'm wrong. Where did you hear the information though? Just word of mouth? I'm just curious.




I was always told that Special was a retelling of... er, one of the Fatal Furies, though I recall it being Fatal Fury one, not two. My memory's probably off there since it's really foggy regarding that, though. Two would probably make more sense.

I got the information from Lantis and a few others at the SNK storyline thread at SRK, if I recall correctly. I'd try to find the exact page but those threads get pretty big over there and usually span 15 pages+, so backtracking there is a little difficult.

I suppose I unfortunately don't know how much to trust the SNK story gurus of SRK. I have 100% trust in my SF plot sources and friends but when it comes to SNK for me, things get a lot murkier in many regards.





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"Re(9):Well..." , posted Fri 11 Jul 10:40post reply


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Well, from playing Fatal Fury 2, it was never stated in that game that Krauser died or committed suicide. I'd have to play through Special again but I thought Special was just a dreammatch and not really canon, but I guess I'm wrong. Where did you hear the information though? Just word of mouth? I'm just curious.



I was always told that Special was a retelling of... er, one of the Fatal Furies, though I recall it being Fatal Fury one, not two. My memory's probably off there since it's really foggy regarding that, though. Two would probably make more sense.

I got the information from Lantis and a few others at the SNK storyline thread at SRK, if I recall correctly. I'd try to find the exact page but those threads get pretty big over there and usually span 15 pages+, so backtracking there is a little difficult.

I suppose I unfortunately don't know how much to trust the SNK story gurus of SRK. I have 100% trust in my SF plot sources and friends but when it comes to SNK for me, things get a lot murkier in many regards.


The tight, seamless narrative that some SNK fans claim runs throughout the SNK games and what actually shows up in SNK games often seem to be two seperate things. If you find a good source for SNK story descriptions that isn't overly embellished let me know.





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Well, from playing Fatal Fury 2, it was never stated in that game that Krauser died or committed suicide. I'd have to play through Special again but I thought Special was just a dreammatch and not really canon, but I guess I'm wrong. Where did you hear the information though? Just word of mouth? I'm just curious.



I was always told that Special was a retelling of... er, one of the Fatal Furies, though I recall it being Fatal Fury one, not two. My memory's probably off there since it's really foggy regarding that, though. Two would probably make more sense.

I got the information from Lantis and a few others at the SNK storyline thread at SRK, if I recall correctly. I'd try to find the exact page but those threads get pretty big over there and usually span 15 pages+, so backtracking there is a little difficult.

I suppose I unfortunately don't know how much to trust the SNK story gurus of SRK. I have 100% trust in my SF plot sources and friends but when it comes to SNK for me, things get a lot murkier in many regards.

The tight, seamless narrative that some SNK fans claim runs throughout the SNK games and what actually shows up in SNK games often seem to be two seperate things. If you find a good source for SNK story descriptions that isn't overly embellished let me know.



Heh. I know what you mean. I try to be careful when talking about this stuff because I know a lot of people take certain things as canon that just are not so. However, if someone gets me screens to show me Krauser died in FF2, let me know, but I am pretty sure those of us in the know know that Krauser actually lives in a pineapple under the sea.






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"Re(10):Well..." , posted Fri 11 Jul 22:46post reply


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The tight, seamless narrative that some SNK fans claim runs throughout the SNK games and what actually shows up in SNK games often seem to be two seperate things. If you find a good source for SNK story descriptions that isn't overly embellished let me know.



The King of Fighters does have a seamless narrative, for a fight game series. Every game does flow into each other (except for the 2 dream match games)...

The big problem, though, with SNK storylines is when you try and meld the plots of the FF and Art of Fighting games into the central KOF storyline. That's where you end up with a lot of the plots holes and what not...







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"Re(1):Krauser" , posted Fri 11 Jul 23:01post reply


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Heh. I know what you mean. I try to be careful when talking about this stuff because I know a lot of people take certain things as canon that just are not so. However, if someone gets me screens to show me Krauser died in FF2, let me know, but I am pretty sure those of us in the know know that Krauser actually lives in a pineapple under the sea.




In this particular case, it's more a question of whether or not something was canon but was retconned away in the past, more than what's canon now, since no one is questioning whether Krauser is alive these days (it's kinda obvious that he is :P).





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"Re(2):Krauser" , posted Sat 12 Jul 04:32post reply


All About SNK says nothing about Krauzer beeing dead. Kim's FF2 ending even shows a well living Krauzer. point.





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"Re(3):Krauser" , posted Sat 12 Jul 08:02post reply


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All About SNK says nothing about Krauzer beeing dead. Kim's FF2 ending even shows a well living Krauzer. point.




Ah, thanks! Does it mention any pretended-suicide to make Geese come out of hiding in Fatal Fury Special?





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"Re(4):Krauser" , posted Sun 13 Jul 11:42post reply


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Ah, thanks! Does it mention any pretended-suicide to make Geese come out of hiding in Fatal Fury Special?

not a thing. It reminded me that they were brothers in law, though. And that funny thing in RBS were Wolfgang says he considers his body as a piece of art and himself an artist equal to Mozart.
I don't wonder anymore why I find him so pathetic...
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"Re(5):Krauser" , posted Sun 13 Jul 14:37post reply


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Ah, thanks! Does it mention any pretended-suicide to make Geese come out of hiding in Fatal Fury Special?
not a thing. It reminded me that they were brothers in law, though. And that funny thing in RBS were Wolfgang says he considers his body as a piece of art and himself an artist equal to Mozart.
I don't wonder anymore why I find him so pathetic...
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(runs laughing loud and bites a few ostriches in the neck).



Wait. Are you positively sure of that? If they're brothers in law than that means that either Geese's sister married Krauser, or Krauser would the brother of Marie, Rock's mother....





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"Re(6):Krauser" , posted Sun 13 Jul 17:21post reply


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Wait. Are you positively sure of that? If they're brothers in law than that means that either Geese's sister married Krauser, or Krauser would the brother of Marie, Rock's mother....

Krauser was Geese's step brother, not brother in law.






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"Re(7):Krauser" , posted Sun 13 Jul 17:54post reply


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Wait. Are you positively sure of that? If they're brothers in law than that means that either Geese's sister married Krauser, or Krauser would the brother of Marie, Rock's mother....
Krauser was Geese's step brother, not brother in law.



Who's older,Krauser or Geese?






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"Re(8):Krauser" , posted Sun 13 Jul 18:42post reply


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Who's older,Krauser or Geese?

Krauser. He allegedly used to beat little Geese, which was one of the reasons Geese fled his home.






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"Re(9):Krauser" , posted Sun 13 Jul 23:09post reply


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Who's older,Krauser or Geese?
Krauser. He allegedly used to beat little Geese, which was one of the reasons Geese fled his home.



Also, why Geese can't stand Krauser....I think. But Geese is totally cool with using him to get what he wants. See the boss team ending of KOF'96 to see that.





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"Re(10):Krauser" , posted Sun 13 Jul 23:33post reply


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Also, why Geese can't stand Krauser....I think. But Geese is totally cool with using him to get what he wants. See the boss team ending of KOF'96 to see that.


Actually, from what I understand, Geese did indeed used to hate Krauser, but they don't particularly care one way or the other any longer.






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"Re(5):Krauser" , posted Mon 14 Jul 10:18post reply


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And that funny thing in RBS were Wolfgang says he considers his body as a piece of art and himself an artist equal to Mozart.
I don't wonder anymore why I find him so pathetic...
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Laurence.
(runs laughing loud and bites a few ostriches in the neck).



I really love his BOSSY attitude in the RBS inrto. XD

It's the first time that I saw a Boss dare to
wipe floor with Hero in the opeining of the game. XD

Probably also the last time''' which is really too bad. >_<;
For me, this is what a BOSS should be.

I just got tired to see Bosses' butts get kicked by
those oh-so-lovable Heros from time to tmie.

Why can't they just give boss a BIG SHOW, like what they did for Krauser in RBS intro?

Hope that we will see more bosses can have the chance to show us how BOSSY he can be. :D

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