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Ishmael

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"Onimusha 2" , posted Mon 30 Jun 17:15

Now that O2 has finally hit the bargain bins I picked it up. A few quick comments:

Yes, the characters still trundle around using a modified version of that far too popular RE style game control. Yes, the game at times feels too much like O1, even going so far as to bring back some of the same enviornments. Yes, it stinks that there's no option for Japanese voices. But I'm still having fun with it. Not only is hacking demons up with a sword always entertaining, someone got the bright idea to turn O2 into something very close to a dating sim. Since I'm not too keen on the little ninja boy should I not pay much attention to him? Will the big drunk guy like the parrot I bought for him? Who thinks up this stuff? I didn't realize that it was an old samurai tradition to constantly buy presents for the people who were helping you but I guess it's no worse than the RPG convention where anyone joining your group will expect you to pay for their wardrobe and lodging. Some games can get by on a strange attitude alone and with unintentionally hilarious lines like "You don't have enough Soul to do that" or sights like Jubei riding around on a robo fish there's no shortage of strange stuff in O2. I thought O3 was going off the deep end with the inclusion of Jean Reno [like a game featuring samurai fighting demons wasn't weird enough] but I now realize that the series has been getting progresivly odder so moving the locale to modern day Paris at this point almost makes perfect sense. Now I'm really looking forward to the French samurai dating sim action coming up in Onimusha 3 just to see what craziness the programmers can come up with next.

P.S. Why does Jubei have both eyes in O2? What sort of Jubei has two functional eyes?

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thebigword
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New Customer

"Re(1):Onimusha 2" , posted Mon 30 Jun 17:33

quote:
Now that O2 has finally hit the bargain bins I picked it up. A few quick comments:

Yes, the characters still trundle around using a modified version of that far too popular RE style game control. Yes, the game at times feels too much like O1, even going so far as to bring back some of the same enviornments. Yes, it stinks that there's no option for Japanese voices. But I'm still having fun with it. Not only is hacking demons up with a sword always entertaining, someone got the bright idea to turn O2 into something very close to a dating sim. Since I'm not too keen on the little ninja boy should I not pay much attention to him? Will the big drunk guy like the parrot I bought for him? Who thinks up this stuff? I didn't realize that it was an old samurai tradition to constantly buy presents for the people who were helping you but I guess it's no worse than the RPG convention where anyone joining your group will expect you to pay for their wardrobe and lodging. Some games can get by on a strange attitude alone and with unintentionally hilarious lines like "You don't have enough Soul to do that" or sights like Jubei riding around on a robo fish there's no shortage of strange stuff in O2. I thought O3 was going off the deep end with the inclusion of Jean Reno [like a game featuring samurai fighting demons wasn't weird enough] but I now realize that the series has been getting progresivly odder so moving the locale to modern day Paris at this point almost makes perfect sense. Now I'm really looking forward to the French samurai dating sim action coming up in Onimusha 3 just to see what craziness the programmers can come up with next.

P.S. Why does Jubei have both eyes in O2? What sort of Jubei has two functional eyes?

Yeah, I wish it had the Japanese language option, too, but I eventually got used to the dub. Maybe they'll give us that option again in the 3rd game, since enough people complained about it missing in the 2nd one.

Possible Spoiler!!!

Spoiler (Highlight to view) -
About the gift giving, make sure you give the good stuff too your female friend. You kinda get a better ending.

End of Spoiler

Fro Boy11

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"Re(2):Onimusha 2" , posted Mon 30 Jun 21:20

I thought Onimusha 2 was a great game! I got to the end of it when I rented it for a week. Maybe I'll still pick it up. I'm also glad that this game was longer than the first Onimusha.

Still waiting for a Dan Hibiki and Robert Garcia dream match!

pointystick

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"Re(3):Onimusha 2" , posted Mon 30 Jun 22:29

I loved it. I especially love the battles with Giltangaches or whatever the hell "the demon world's best swordsman" is called. So wonderfully frustrating...

Gojira

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"Re(4):Onimusha 2" , posted Mon 30 Jun 23:12

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I loved it. I especially love the battles with Giltangaches or whatever the hell "the demon world's best swordsman" is called. So wonderfully frustrating...

Gogandantess. You have to love the way Jubei reacts to him whenever he starts hamming it up.

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(project being redesigned and updated for RPGM2k3)

Ishmael

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"Re(2):Onimusha 2" , posted Tue 1 Jul 10:12

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Yeah, I wish it had the Japanese language option, too, but I eventually got used to the dub. Maybe they'll give us that option again in the 3rd game, since enough people complained about it missing in the 2nd one.

Possible Spoiler!!!

I figured out that who I paid attention to affected different parts of the game [since I started giving ninja boy the cold shoulder he hasn't shown up much] but I didn't realize it had such far reaching consequences. Luckily the character you mentioned is one I've been lavishing gifts on in an attempt to buy their friendship. I wonder if it's possible to get all the characters in the game to love Jubei equally?

Forgot to mention a small thing in my initial post but I did think it's too bad that O2 didn't continue with the inexplicable references to Hamlet that were found in the first game. I was hoping I would get to fight a demon named Rosencrantz or some such thing at some point in O2 but so far no luck.

jiji
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Rare Customer

"Re(3):Onimusha 2" , posted Tue 1 Jul 12:41

Onimusha 2 is great! I don't know why I didn't pay much attention to it when it first came out, but since getting it for cheap via the Amazon deal, I've been loving it. The 'tank controls' are a non-issue since attacks flow so well and movement is so easy. I love the trading games. I tried to give equal attention to everybody, but I ended up with Kotaro's path this time. Luckily, the game is plenty fun, so replays should be worth it for more than just seeing different plot paths.

Have any of you become proficient at issens? I haven't put the time into learning them for all the different enemy/weapon combinations, and I can't do the block-issen thing at all.

This game is soo great! Why didn't it do very well in the US? ;_;

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Forgot to mention a small thing in my initial post but I did think it's too bad that O2 didn't continue with the inexplicable references to Hamlet that were found in the first game. I was hoping I would get to fight a demon named Rosencrantz or some such thing at some point in O2 but so far no luck.

O2 does mention Guildenstern quite a bit, but without mention of a Rosencrantz, it almost reminds me more of Vagrant Story...hehe.

Undead Fred

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"Re(4):Onimusha 2" , posted Tue 1 Jul 23:00

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Have any of you become proficient at issens? I haven't put the time into learning them for all the different enemy/weapon combinations, and I can't do the block-issen thing at all.

I got all-right with them... mostly when I tried "critical mode" or whatever. Not too hard to get the hang of the timing.

As for Gogandantesssssssss, I think Giltangaches sounds cooler. I kept thinking Gogandantess sounds too feminine, although it kind of fits the character. He is kind of a queen.

Oh boy! It's summertime!

Lunatic
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Occasional Customer

"Re(4):Onimusha 2" , posted Wed 2 Jul 12:24

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I loved it. I especially love the battles with Giltangaches or whatever the hell "the demon world's best swordsman" is called. So wonderfully frustrating...

It's gogandantes man! This game got the funniest names ever, like Jujudorma and gighamphatts, it's just so funny when u read them out

You've been very bad. Now off to the gas chamber.

Undead Fred

727th Post

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"Re(5):Onimusha 2" , posted Thu 3 Jul 00:12

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It's gogandantes man! This game got the funniest names ever, like Jujudorma and gighamphatts, it's just so funny when u read them out

They spelled it "GogandanteSS" in the game... which made it sound gay.

Yeah, the bosses had very strange names. As for Jujudormah, I wanted to skin that talking beanbag from the minute I first saw her.

Oh boy! It's summertime!

BlackNinjaVinny

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"Re(1):Onimusha 2" , posted Thu 3 Jul 00:26

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P.S. Why does Jubei have both eyes in O2? What sort of Jubei has two functional eyes?

Agreed. He just looks wierd with two eyes. He needs to be busting the eye patch. Your avatar kicks dicks, by the way ^_^

I'm more of a problem eliminator

Undead Fred

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"Re(2):Onimusha 2" , posted Thu 3 Jul 00:35

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P.S. Why does Jubei have both eyes in O2? What sort of Jubei has two functional eyes?

Agreed. He just looks wierd with two eyes. He needs to be busting the eye patch.

Yeah, I agree... a Jubei Yagyu with TWO eyes doesn't work at all to me. Gotta have the eyepatch and two swords.

Oh boy! It's summertime!

Olivier Hagué
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Regular Customer

"Re(1):Onimusha 2" , posted Thu 3 Jul 12:40

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Why does Jubei have both eyes in O2? What sort of Jubei has two functional eyes?

The sort of Jûbei that's contemporary with Oda Nobunaga. You're confusing the main character of the game (Yagyû Muneyoshi / Sekishûsai) with his grandson (Yagyû Jûbei Mitsuyoshi).

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I did think it's too bad that O2 didn't continue with the inexplicable references to Hamlet that were found in the first game.

There's an explanation, actually: Shakespeare became such a talented author because he made a contract with the Genma. He's been using Genma names in his work.

Undead Fred

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"Re(2):Onimusha 2" , posted Thu 3 Jul 13:27

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The sort of Jûbei that's contemporary with Oda Nobunaga. You're confusing the main character of the game (Yagyû Muneyoshi / Sekishûsai) with his grandson (Yagyû Jûbei Mitsuyoshi).

Oh yeah. I think I heard that somewhere... But then, why's the one in Onimusha 2 named Jubei if he's not the grandson??? He's called Jubei in the game.... Was the granddad also a Jubei?

Oh boy! It's summertime!

Hank Quinlan
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Rare Customer

"Re(3):Onimusha 2" , posted Thu 3 Jul 14:49

Damn! damn! damn! All you people make me want to replay Onimusha 2.

As far as Issen's go. Yeah, I got OK with them but not perfect. It was a great way to take out some of the meaner critters--but I think the best thing with the Issens was there was a way to get a multi-issen attack. I don't remember now whether your sword had to be powered up or you needed to be in Oni mode or what, but it was a great way to clear a room!

Bring on Onimusha 3!

iggy

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"Re(2):Onimusha 2" , posted Thu 3 Jul 15:01:

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Why does Jubei have both eyes in O2? What sort of Jubei has two functional eyes?
The sort of Jûbei that's contemporary with Oda Nobunaga. You're confusing the main character of the game (Yagyû Muneyoshi / Sekishûsai) with his grandson (Yagyû Jûbei Mitsuyoshi).

AAaaaah!!!! Olivier, stop before it's too late! don't turn this place in a living hell like everywhere else you go! stop hagueing people like that!
Noooooo!!!!!
...
Well, no, actually, I don't care, I just want you to go to work on that thing as fast as you can (and send it to me if you can too).

忌まわしき封印は消え去った。今再び、我目覚めたり！！！

[this message was edited by iggy on Thu 3 Jul 15:01]

Ishmael

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"Re(2):Onimusha 2" , posted Fri 4 Jul 12:46

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Why does Jubei have both eyes in O2? What sort of Jubei has two functional eyes?
The sort of Jûbei that's contemporary with Oda Nobunaga. You're confusing the main character of the game (Yagyû Muneyoshi / Sekishûsai) with his grandson (Yagyû Jûbei Mitsuyoshi).

Considering Onimusha is in fake history land [what with fighting demons and whatnot] making sure the correct Jubei is in the correct time period seems rather low on the list of things to worry about. Since one of the early character sketches included in the game features Jubei wearing an eyepatch I suspect Capcom was more interested in using the Samurai Shodown approach of grabbing bits and pieces from all over history instead of being too accurate. I still wish Capcom had given Jubei an eyepatch since then they could have started a new tradition that the men of the Yagyu clan all have really bad luck and get one of their eyes poked out at some point in their lives.

Olivier Hagué
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Regular Customer

"Re(3):Onimusha 2" , posted Fri 4 Jul 19:07

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Considering Onimusha is in fake history land [what with fighting demons and whatnot]

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making sure the correct Jubei is in the correct time period seems rather low on the list of things to worry about.

Again, he's Yagyû Muneyoshi, that's all.