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| Fro Boy11 1679th Post
 
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|  "Re(1):OT: X-Men questions"
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I haven't been checking comic books lately due to some monetary problems, and I was wondering about the current status of my favorite X-Men. If anybody can help me? I want to know if something important happened to them in the last year, I don't mind spoilers. They are:
-Sage
-Gambit
-Shadowcat/Kitty Pryde
-Valeria Von Doom (ok, not an X-Men exactly, but...)
-Longshot (if he has showed up)
And what happened with the Jean/Emma/Scott/Logan thing that was going on?
Any info would be welcome. Thanks.
And oh yes, I'm a big Claremont fan. He should be in charge of all the titles.
Well, I browse the comics, but I've only been buying the new Batman lately, but I've seen some stuff in the New X-Men books. Apparently Emma was trying to help Scott with his marriage (at least that's what I figured) and Jean is all Phoenix again and Logan went to talk to Emma and next thing you see is broken diamond pieces of Emma all in a pile. Beast is trying to put her back together.
Other than that I don't know anything. I haven't checked the Fantastic Four in months so I don't anything about Valeria (I LOVE that name, I'm gonna name my daughter that one day, that and Monet)
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| Satoshi_Miwa 2233th Post
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| "Re(7):OT: X-Men questions" , posted Wed 11 Jun 22:38
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You're not alone, I grew up with the late 80's-early 90's version of X-Men by Claremont, and to some extent with Lobdell's mostly inferior period, but I don't like Morrison's take on it at all. Just put back Claremont on all of the titles or get Jeph Loeb or somebody else!
Thanks for all the info! I'll see if I can return to collect X-treme at least, just to see more of Claremont's all-powerful women.
Not going to happen, as New X-men pretty much outsells X-treme X-men by a decent margin (And both beat the pants of Uncanny right now). I think the book is Grant Morrison's for as long as he wants it...
Which is good thing, IMHO, as I like his take on the X-men. By focusing on the darker side of the personalties and strong conflicts you one of the more unique X books out their. Plus I just like his take on Jean Grey.
Plus you have a growing comic audience that wants more mature stories. Marvel is actually doing a wise thing by giving them it one X-book, and keeping the more 80's style stories for X-treme (Now if they could find a direction for Uncanny beyond the current one).
As for Claremont? We'll I've found most of his 90's stuff to be bland. Soverign 7 was...Awful. And so is his current Gen 13 (Why they took it away from Adam Warren I'll never know). X-treme has been solid, but with the new, less good artist on the book I've found the stories have become flat. And his most recent run with all of the X-books (at the time of the first movie) was pretty unspectacular at best.
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| Sano
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| "Re(1):another couple of questions" , posted Thu 12 Jun 09:29:
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-What happened with the blue haired detective girl that was with Bishop all the time? (the one that had Akira's bike), she appeared again?
-Anybody knows the current status of Pete Wisdom?
Blue Haired Detective - Last time she was seen, she agreed to go out on a date with Bishop! Just another notch on Bishop's bedpost!
Pete Wisdom - Last time I saw him he was leading the old X-Force Team. I'll check Marvel Universe 2 - X-Men for his status. I THIIIIINK he was killed off, but I'll double check this.
I'll critique the X-Books later, but here's the whole scoop on the Jean/Scott/Emma triangle.
Ever since Cyke had that Apocalypse merge, it kind of messed up his mind because he never knew that he had it in him to be so dark. He feels Jean and Prof. X didn't really understand, since Prof. X just brushes off becoming Onslaught as part of the job for the most part, like Jean regards her evil dopplegangers, to a certain degree. So, with his marriage in shambles, he goes to Emma for psychiatric help. Next thing you know, they start having Sex in the Psi Plane! Along the way, Emma falls in love with Cyke!
They continue having "psychic sex" for a while, and just when Scott wants to end the relationship, Jean catches them in the act! She gets all Phoenixy and discovers the Truth about Emma's Past by going into her mind uninvited!
Emma did come from a rich family but wasn't very attractive. She decided to make her way in this world on her own, without her family's help. She prostituted her way to the top, using her powers to make her look more attractive. Once she hooked up with Sebastion Shaw, she went under the knife to make her look hot! It really upset Emma (breaks down and cries) that she was being "mind raped" this way and all her dark secrets were coming out!
The only thing that stopped Jean from doing worse was Scott letting Jean finally read him revealing that he did not have "actual sex" in Hong Kong with Emma, just talked all night. Cyke stormed off, White Queen was murdered for a while, but as I stated earlier she got better! After this, an investigation by Bishop and Sage began "who shot Emma with a diamond bullet?" This is what caused Emma to break apart in Diamond Form. The investigation is even more complicated than all this and there is still one more person behind the whole thing (Cyke's the leading suspect, though as of last issue when confronted by Wolverine he cannot believe that people think he's fallen so much to suspect him) so I REALLY don't want to get in to all of it since all the details are not out, and I think their going to go into Wolvie's Origin for a while so all the info is not out yet.
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| Satoshi_Miwa 2236th Post
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| "Re(9):OT: X-Men questions" , posted Thu 12 Jun 20:27
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You mean, who's having sex with who?
And about Claremont, he just doesn't works as well if he doesn't has freedom. And the concept itself in XTreme doesn't gives him any of it, really... For a good Clareomnt book in the last years, you should check his short run on Fantastic Four vol.3, specially the Dr. Doom armor saga, with a surprising end. But then again, these are my tastes only.
Hey, it's produced one of my favorite X-men stories in years so I'm not gonna complain. Granted Right now I dig the more personal side of super Hero's than anything else (which is what Morrison is great at...).
Claremont's run on FF was okay, though I'm not a huge FF fan so I didn't follow it too closely. Looked spiffy for the type of story it was though. However Gen 13 has just been a disaster, as it's been bad 80's X-men with annoying 90's teens (Granted Lee's Gen 13 was the same. Adam Warren did the best with Gen 13 out of all the writers).
I'm not so sure more freedom for Claremont would be the answer, as he seemed to have it for his X-men run around the time of the first movie. And that book failed IMHO because of the over use of Claremont's dialouge style, which is still stuck in the 80's. If anything he needs to change that part of his work, or become more of a central editor for X-treme and Uncanny and have someone else handle speech and stuff...
All IMHO, which is very stilted...:) Take with salt and all.
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| Sano
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| "Re(10):OT: X-Men questions" , posted Fri 13 Jun 09:31
Got the scoop on Pete Wisdom. He faked his death so the old X-Force team could find there own way. He's still at large doing who knows what.
My Critique of the X-Books I buy, well some I only get sometimes.
NEW X-MEN
Good - Excellent writing. You honestly don't know what's going to happen month to month.
Bad - QUIETLY SUCKS! Thank goodness he draws to slow so he doesn't draw every issue. New Costumes suck, and I remember when new Mutant Characters were cool, now they're all wierdos.
XTREME X-MEN
Good - Laroca's pencils! And for those who don't like New X-Men much, this book gives you a good dose of what the X-Men were like in the 80s and 90s.
Bad - Claremont is a hot and cold writer. Sometimes he's good, other times he's bad. He wrote a six month storyline of the team fighting English speaking Aliens and they were lead by A GUY NAMED KHAN! STAR TREK RIP!!! THIS WHACK STORY WOULDN'T END! Well, when it did end the story that followed after was really good.
X-STATIX
Good - X-Men meets MTV's Real World. Main Characters die often.
Bad - No real Super Villains. Never will be. But the book's written so good it doesn't matter much.
UNCANNY X-MEN
Good - Juggernaut's an X-Men now! And this one has more unrequited love matches than an episode of Ranma 1/2! Anne Likes Havok, Havok likes Anne even though she just slept with Iceman and Havok was about to marry Polaris, Iceman likes Polaris, Polaris likes Havok, Northstar likes Iceman,(Iceman just found out last month Northstar's Gay! Hysterical!) and to to top things off Archangel's robbing the craddle dating Paige!
Bad - Whack Villains and Whack Fights really hurt this book.
X-MEN UNLIMITED
Good - Ummm, hmmm, errr, sometimes there's good art.
Bad - Mostly tells in between comic book stories or back stories that sometimes ignore continuity and this pisses of continuity buffs like myself. THAT'S NOT HOW SABRETOOTH AND MYSTIQUE MET YOU BASTARDS!!!
WOLVERINE
Good - NOTHING!
Bad - NO SUPER VILLAINS IN ALMOST A YEAR! AND NEW WRITER RUCKA PROMISES NO SABRETOOTH! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
In short, no Super Villains in X-Statix is O.K., BUT NONE IN WOLVERINE IS A CRIME!
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