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| Hungrywolf 2012th Post
 
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|  "Re(8):Evangelion Movie first images/designs?"
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Oh don't get me wrong, the characters and the story were good to a point, but the last half of Eva ruined the series in my opinion. Shinji could've had SOME character development. Cowboy Bebop is great and I love it.
Odd that you say that when Cowboy Bebop had zero character development...
I disagree on that one. I feel the characters did develop over the course of the series but even if they didn't, keep this in mind, all of the characters in Bebop, except for Ed, were already adults. However, there was development of the characters. If I have to give an example, then I'll give the example of Faye.
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Because from her intro to her regaining her memory did develop her character. She went from not knowing who she was to knowing.
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In Eva, all the characters were just broken apart at the end, and things were revealed about their past but these are things that had already affected their lives. I specifically say Shinji because he is the protagonist and should have been a hero and not have been the whiny kid through the whole thing. I like Shinji but he never grew.
"Someday we'll find it the rainbow connection..." -Kermit The Muppet Movie
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| Hungrywolf 2018th Post
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| "Re(10):Evangelion Movie first images/designs?" , posted Wed 11 Jun 20:26
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In Eva, all the characters were just broken apart at the end, and things were revealed about their past but these are things that had already affected their lives. I specifically say Shinji because he is the protagonist and should have been a hero and not have been the whiny kid through the whole thing. I like Shinji but he never grew.
Ah, but Shinji developed by not becoming a hero!
From what I gathered from the ending, he realized he didn't need to be the Shinji "of others minds" but could be his own person and be happy.
The role of 'hero' was one forced on to Shinji, one he never wanted but took because it would make those around him happy and it's at the end Shinji realizes making others happy has made him unhappy, so he decides to be his own person... at which point everyone we've met during the series congradulates him for coming to terms with himself (I believe to show they're happy with Shinji no matter what he does.)
I'm sure the movies change all that but that is how I saw the ending of the TV series.
also Shinji never seemed 'whiny' to me, sure he complained and screamed a lot... but his father basical forced on him the option "abandonment or fight my war" Shinji has ever right to whine given his life.
EDIT: sloppy, sloppy writting... still probably full of mistakes I missed.
Heh, well, I say whiny cause most say he is. I liked him to a point. However, overall Eva wasn't what it could've been and disappointed me.
"Someday we'll find it the rainbow connection..." -Kermit The Muppet Movie
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| Dr Baghead 2296th Post
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| "Re(4):Re(10):Evangelion Movie first images/de" , posted Thu 12 Jun 11:37
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It's a risk, no question about it, but given the cash comic movies are making (and the anime inspired Matrix) it's a risk worth taking..
They just need a damn good script writer, and a method to making the movies. Take a page from the matrix, for example, and make the first movie mostly a pure action one (with subtle hints to the plot). Good giant robots fights will get people in to theaters...
Then announce 2 more with the meat of the real plot. People will then go to see the movies regardless of the buzz (see the mixed reviews on Matrix Revolutions...)
The Matrix would be a GREAT model to follow actually. (minus the Animatrix and Enter the Matrix sub-plots) since it has action, the male hero is one most people find annoying, it's got robots, and hints of religion.
However the WaDHfhlkgflkghalkgh;dfghski Brothers know how to make movies, and above that know how to market it.... ADV hasn't proved this yet.
I think ADV should have bought rights to Lupin the 3rd to make a movie... some other movie company that slips my mind is making a movie based on the original French novel version of Lupin... so why not ride of their success (as the other company is probably ridding off whatever interest is generated by Lupin the 3rd anyway) and make a fun anime-based live action movie, Weta can do the car chase effects!
off topic: All this talk movie franchise makes me remember the ending of Super Mario Brothers... that had to be the saddest ending of all time.
Remember? Daisy kicks down the door in some kind of warrior work-clothes with a gun... obviously to suggest "it's sequel time, baby!" but a sequel has yet to be made... if I was the director I'd have that scene digitally removed or altered so it just looks like Daisy is gone forever or returning for a causal visit, rather then be embarrassed by the writer's hubris there'd be a part 2.
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