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"Shadowbane Insanity" , posted Sat 31 May 16:06post reply


HAHA now we're talking. finally, people are seeing things my way

http://www.wired.com/news/games/0,2101,59034,00.html

(thanks to Guymelef for the link)





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"Re(1):Shadowbane Insanity" , posted Sat 31 May 16:57post reply


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HAHA now we're talking. finally, people are seeing things my way.



Yeah, this has been a huge problem for Shadowbane. It seems like people spend just as much time hacking the game as they do playing it. Shame.... it had so much potential too....





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"Re(1):Shadowbane Insanity" , posted Sat 31 May 17:57post reply


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Mike Gontelli, a late arrival to the game that evening, said that when he arrived in Shadowbane "there were hundreds of tombstones. New players were being beaten and tortured. Newbie blood was flowing like a river. I knew it wasn't real, but it was oddly terrifying."
Wow. I haven't played very many online RPG's, but that sounded cool. It would suck if you lost your character for good because of that, but that kind of a hack sounded pretty cool. It's one of those situations that sounds cool, but it must have sucked to be one of the newbies. At least they're okay now.






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"Re(1):Shadowbane Insanity" , posted Sat 31 May 22:47post reply


Every time I see something like this, I silenty ask: Why doesn't anyone try to cheat smart?

Look, I have nothing against hacks or cheats, but in an online game, there are a whole lot of other players, and most of them won't like anyone having an unfair advantage over them (to say nothing of the usual nutcases who are maniacally opposed to the very existence of cheats on principle). I'd think that the logical thing to do is avoid drawing attention to yourself. I.e., don't PK, don't flout your ill-gotten advantages, don't brag, and in general spend as much time away from other people as possible. How about taking on some really dangerous quests or tackling super-powerful monsters most players won't even touch? Now there's a way to avoid trouble, and you profit from your enhanced attributes. Simple as pie.

Altering the very world...well, it's a neat trick, but these folks' names are most likely mud wherever they go from now on. It's a shame that some people, even when there's no way to avoid getting caught, can't show any restraint.





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"Re(2):Shadowbane Insanity" , posted Sun 1 Jun 01:16post reply


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Every time I see something like this, I silenty ask: Why doesn't anyone try to cheat smart?

Look, I have nothing against hacks or cheats, but in an online game, there are a whole lot of other players, and most of them won't like anyone having an unfair advantage over them (to say nothing of the usual nutcases who are maniacally opposed to the very existence of cheats on principle). I'd think that the logical thing to do is avoid drawing attention to yourself. I.e., don't PK, don't flout your ill-gotten advantages, don't brag, and in general spend as much time away from other people as possible. How about taking on some really dangerous quests or tackling super-powerful monsters most players won't even touch? Now there's a way to avoid trouble, and you profit from your enhanced attributes. Simple as pie.

Altering the very world...well, it's a neat trick, but these folks' names are most likely mud wherever they go from now on. It's a shame that some people, even when there's no way to avoid getting caught, can't show any restraint.

First off, if you think I'm insane for not liking to use cheats, that's fine. I don't mind the fact that cheats exist, I just don't ever use them because they suck ALL the challenge out of a game. Anyway, back on topic...

I don't think these people were cheating to flaunt their "ill-gotten advantages" and all that... they just wanted to kill everyone in the game. Not so they'd be the best players out there; they just wanted to unleash Hell in the game. That's it. It's like getting to play God and deciding to make everyone suffer. I thought this hack sounded cooler than the hackers that make their own character invincible. It was something new and without purpose. Again, it would suck to be the victims, but at least they were restored to their status before the attacks. It would have been interesting to see, I think....






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"Re(2):Shadowbane Insanity" , posted Sun 1 Jun 23:17post reply


Reminds me of people who say "Contra is too hard without the konami code!"

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: People who don't cheat are gamers. People who DO cheat are pussies.

It's as simple as that. A large factor of play in games, especially older ones, comes from the challenge. Suck that out, and you defeat the purpose of the game's existence. Cheating in an MMORPG: The point of these is mnake it to the top by virtue of your own hard work; but I suppose people will always look for the easy way out.






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"Re(3):Shadowbane Insanity" , posted Mon 2 Jun 05:56post reply


i also frown down on cheating, but that's besides the point. the madness that those hackers stirred up in that world is something new, and enormous, and completely insane. instead of granting themselves godlike status, or gorging in riches and rare items, they set the world around them on fire. they made peoples' valuables disappear, they sunk an entire city, they let loose berserked demons, and they made cityguards kill the very population they were set to protect. if Shadowbane is like any other MMORPG, i can just imagine how serious most of the players take the game. and simply imagining them watching their world fall apart makes me burst out in laughter

how this thread strayed off the topic of hilarity into this wacky discussion on cheating, i do not know. but, it's been said that those who encourage cheating are also prone to writing cheap fanfics about video game characters that no one reads. well, wait. i read them. they make me laugh, chump. and laugh and laugh ...






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"Re(4):Shadowbane Insanity" , posted Mon 2 Jun 12:52post reply


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i also frown down on cheating, but that's besides the point. the madness that those hackers stirred up in that world is something new, and enormous, and completely insane. instead of granting themselves godlike status, or gorging in riches and rare items, they set the world around them on fire. they made peoples' valuables disappear, they sunk an entire city, they let loose berserked demons, and they made cityguards kill the very population they were set to protect. if Shadowbane is like any other MMORPG, i can just imagine how serious most of the players take the game. and simply imagining them watching their world fall apart makes me burst out in laughter

That's what I'm saying. It sounded like it would have been cool to see. (Like I've said before) It would suck to be one of those people who like playing the game, but at least they got their stuff back when it was all over.






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