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| Dr Baghead 2180th Post
 
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|  "Re(1):Four more SVC characters"
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Someone pasted this on IRC, and I'm guessing they're Arcadia scans?
http://www.ba.wakwak.com/~d_evil/upload/303.jpg
http://www.ba.wakwak.com/~d_evil/upload/307.jpg
Would these be the last character additions?
So Genjiro, Kim, Bison, and Sagat are in now? (not that one couldn't Sagat and Bison[Vega] from a mile away, after all you can't have Vega[Balrog] and Balrog[Bison] with out Bison[Vega] and Sagat!)
My opinion:
Genjiro: very welcome addition, sword fighters are cool and he's more interesting then Haohmaru or Nakaruru in my book
Kim: any Tae Kwon Do character is cool, thought he is a bit unoriginal (but Jhun and May Lee aren't as cool as Kim, and you can't use just one of his sons, so I guess he wins by default)
Sagat: although I wish it was represented by someone on SNK's side (Joe, King, Benimaru-sorta, even the long forgoten Hwa Jai would have been great!) I'm glad a Muay Thai fighter is in the game.
Bison: is he going to be fatty or original? either way I'm tired of him.
It seems odd to me that SNK seems to have selected characters from both KoF and SamSho to represent themselves, while Capcom is only given Street Fighter (Mr.Karate and Tabatha are the odd men out for such an example)
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| DarkZero
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| "Re(3):Four more SVC characters" , posted Wed 28 May 12:50
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The SNK side is cool, but the Capcom side is just Street Fighter 2 + Tabasa; but I think most people are making that point.
I wish that they would've just called this game "KOF vs. Street Fighter" and then thrown in some Samurai Spirits characters as a surprise. It would've saved us months of speculation about which Last Blade, Mark of the Wolves, Darkstalkers, Rival Schools, etc. characters would be in the game. So far, three out of the twelve SNK characters haven't been in KOF and one character out of the twelve Capcom characters hasn't been in Street Fighter. What good did it do to fuel wild speculation and then have every character announcement be a letdown? Every time somebody here (or anywhere else that this game is being discussed) said, "Well, I'd really love if it if they'd do X, but I'm kind of afraid that they're ::big sigh:: just going to do Y"... they did Y. I don't see how that's really productive.
Maybe the gameplay will really rock and I'll be converted, but based on the information that we have, it's not looking that great. I'm not really looking forward to using the same characters that I use in KOF or Street Fighter against the same characters that I usually fight in KOF or Street Fighter. I know that I'm going to tend more toward the SNK side, as well as toward SNK players, and that's going to result in stunning dream matches like "Kyo vs. Ryo" and "Mai vs. Terry" that we've all been dreaming of for... roughly never.
And as I refresh this thread and see a bunch more comments, I have to ask... what's so diverse about the SNK cast? The only SNK characters that haven't been in KOF are the three that are from Samurai Spirits.
Awesome Sagat art, though.
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| Fro Boy11 1533th Post
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| "Re(3):Four more SVC characters" , posted Wed 28 May 12:58
I'm happy with the SNK roster, but the Capcom roster is doo doo!
Anyway, Genjuro and Kim are great! I knew Vega/Bison was gonna be in it. I mean, how can you NOT expect that. Sagat was announced a few years ago. So was Morrigan too, or was it Lilith? I can't remember. I bet they'll wait and show Morrigan last because EVERYONE wants to see her redrawn.
SNK/Playmore is basically screwing over the Capcom roster. The plan is like this: "Play our games, we have COOLER characters, COOLER moves, etc. while Capcom's best are all from SF2 and they are boring and uninspired"
So people are gonna be like "man, that Genjuro is one cool mofo, and look at Sagat, he's redrawn, yeah, but he's still the same, I think I'm gonna check on those Samurai Showdown games." Then whoever it is will go and find Samurai Showdown (probably with the collection coming to PS1 later this year) and buy it. Playmore sells more games by putting in the big guns.
I REALLY want Geese in this game. They would either have to redraw him, or take the KOF2000 striker Geese and draw more animations and moves and stuff for him. Basically a complete update.
Why is Thursday Playmore Day? Does Playmore update they're site every Thursday? I didn't know that.
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| Dr Baghead 2183th Post
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| "Re(4):Four more SVC characters" , posted Wed 28 May 13:10
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what's so diverse about the SNK cast? The only SNK characters that haven't been in KOF are the three that are from Samurai Spirits.
Kyo, Iori, Terry, Mai, Ryo: expected, not unlike Ryu, Ken, and Chun-Li
Genjiro, Earthquake: unexpected treat, as they are not Haohmaru and Nakaruru
Shiki: a 3D character making a 2D debute
Mr.Karate: He's not Takuma, so he's a welcome change.
Kim, Kasumi:Although both are present in KoF, neither was really a gurantee for the game. Kasumi was absent for 4 years and although he was in CvS1 and 2, he was absent from the NGCP SvC so Kim's inclusion is surprising if not uneventful.
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| Mmeeva
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| "Re(5):Four more SVC characters" , posted Wed 28 May 13:21
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what's so diverse about the SNK cast? The only SNK characters that haven't been in KOF are the three that are from Samurai Spirits.
Kyo, Iori, Terry, Mai, Ryo: expected, not unlike Ryu, Ken, and Chun-Li
Genjiro, Earthquake: unexpected treat, as they are not Haohmaru and Nakaruru
Shiki: a 3D character making a 2D debute
Mr.Karate: He's not Takuma, so he's a welcome change.
Kim, Kasumi:Although both are present in KoF, neither was really a gurantee for the game. Kasumi was absent for 4 years and although he was in CvS1 and 2, he was absent from the NGCP SvC so Kim's inclusion is surprising if not uneventful.
That still doesn't really make it that much more diverse than the Capcom side really.
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| Hagen de Merak 453th Post
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| "Re(6):Four more SVC characters" , posted Wed 28 May 13:38
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what's so diverse about the SNK cast? The only SNK characters that haven't been in KOF are the three that are from Samurai Spirits.
Kyo, Iori, Terry, Mai, Ryo: expected, not unlike Ryu, Ken, and Chun-Li
Genjiro, Earthquake: unexpected treat, as they are not Haohmaru and Nakaruru
Shiki: a 3D character making a 2D debute
Mr.Karate: He's not Takuma, so he's a welcome change.
Kim, Kasumi:Although both are present in KoF, neither was really a gurantee for the game. Kasumi was absent for 4 years and although he was in CvS1 and 2, he was absent from the NGCP SvC so Kim's inclusion is surprising if not uneventful.
That still doesn't really make it that much more diverse than the Capcom side really.
you forget that Terry and mai arent just representing KOF, but FF as well, same goes for Ryo, Mr. Karate and Kasumi, AoF. Capcom side so far is just SF2 ( minus Hugo and Tabasa)
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| Grave 336th Post
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| "Re(7):Four more SVC characters" , posted Wed 28 May 13:51
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Now if only Geese and K' was in it, and that would be my favorite fighting game of all time!
I was really hoping for K' and Alex, but I'm not holding my breath on either of them.
I'd settle for Leona or Dudley, too...
Hell, they could at least give Kyo the white jacket, for crying out loud. I hoped Capcom would do it in the CvS games, but they let me down twice. That outfit's way too cool not to be using.
Oh, and hey Rugal, what's that pic in your avatar? I can't quite place it, but it's really cool looking...
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| Fro Boy11 1537th Post
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| "Re(5):Four more SVC characters" , posted Wed 28 May 14:57
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I have that feeling at well. I was THINKING we'd hear about it tomorrow (Thursday) but if not, probably by the betatest, or maybe save it for a consolke exclusive. I mean I think if Playmore would really want to "wow" everyone (besides having so-and-so instead of so-and-so) they'd have a fully redrawn and well animated Morrigan to show to the world.
What's the thing with Thursday? Playmore updates their site every Thursday or something? Anyway, I REALLY want Playmore to add more characters for the home ports of this game so they can sell more games and make more money. Plus, the fans will love it. I'd love to see redrawn versions of the KOF characters for the PS2, DC, or even Xbox versions, but you never know how many more characters will be announced or show up when the game is released in arcades.
I mean, even though the Capcom roster is bland I really don't care because I won't be using them the majority of the time anyway. Unless Playmore gave them some new moves, which is highly doubtful.
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| RugalBernstein 4103th Post
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| "Re(7):Four more SVC characters" , posted Wed 28 May 19:33:
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you forget that Terry and mai arent just representing KOF, but FF as well, same goes for Ryo, Mr. Karate and Kasumi, AoF. Capcom side so far is just SF2 ( minus Hugo and Tabasa)
Well then, Ryu, Ken, Mike Bison, and Sagat are all representing SF 1. ;D
Edit: Froboy, or whoever, no, Morrigan/Lilith were never mentioned. I find myself wondering if people would complain so much if Capcom vs. SNK had come out AFTER this.
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| talbaineric 5116th Post
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| "Re(8):Four more SVC characters" , posted Wed 28 May 20:08
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you forget that Terry and mai arent just representing KOF, but FF as well, same goes for Ryo, Mr. Karate and Kasumi, AoF. Capcom side so far is just SF2 ( minus Hugo and Tabasa)
Well then, Ryu, Ken, Mike Bison, and Sagat are all representing SF 1. ;D
Edit: Froboy, or whoever, no, Morrigan/Lilith were never mentioned. I find myself wondering if people would complain so much if Capcom vs. SNK had come out AFTER this.
Capcom vs SNK was an awesome series. Capcom did a really good job on this game. Especially CvS2! CvS had some really cool and original backgrounds.....WHO DOESN'T LIKE MORRIGAN'S CvS stage? O_O Or Nakoruru's? The music was excellent in both games. And it got better in CvS2.
We'll see if Playmore can even stand a chance to Capcom's greatness.
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| Hagen de Merak 454th Post
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| "Re(8):Four more SVC characters" , posted Wed 28 May 20:45
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you forget that Terry and mai arent just representing KOF, but FF as well, same goes for Ryo, Mr. Karate and Kasumi, AoF. Capcom side so far is just SF2 ( minus Hugo and Tabasa)
Well then, Ryu, Ken, Mike Bison, and Sagat are all representing SF 1. ;D
okay, we've been through this sir rugal, you know what i mean.
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| Undead Fred 632th Post
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| "Re(10):Four more SVC characters" , posted Wed 28 May 21:16
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I wish that they would've just called this game "KOF vs. Street Fighter" and then thrown in some Samurai Spirits characters as a surprise. It would've saved us months of speculation about which Last Blade, Mark of the Wolves, Darkstalkers, Rival Schools, etc. characters would be in the game. So far, three out of the twelve SNK characters haven't been in KOF and one character out of the twelve Capcom characters hasn't been in Street Fighter. What good did it do to fuel wild speculation and then have every character announcement be a letdown? Every time somebody here (or anywhere else that this game is being discussed) said, "Well, I'd really love if it if they'd do X, but I'm kind of afraid that they're ::big sigh:: just going to do Y"... they did Y. I don't see how that's really productive.
Maybe the gameplay will really rock and I'll be converted, but based on the information that we have, it's not looking that great. I'm not really looking forward to using the same characters that I use in KOF or Street Fighter against the same characters that I usually fight in KOF or Street Fighter. I know that I'm going to tend more toward the SNK side, as well as toward SNK players, and that's going to result in stunning dream matches like "Kyo vs. Ryo" and "Mai vs. Terry" that we've all been dreaming of for... roughly never.
And as I refresh this thread and see a bunch more comments, I have to ask... what's so diverse about the SNK cast? The only SNK characters that haven't been in KOF are the three that are from Samurai Spirits.
Awesome Sagat art, though.
That about sums up my thoughts. There are a few characters I see in the roster that interest me, but Capcom's side is boring as hell. Tabasa and Hugo are a step in the right direction, but I'm sick to death of seeing just about anyone from SF2 in anything nowadays. I like Akuma and Sagat, so I'm okay with them being in the game, but the rest have become a freaking cliche. And how much have they changed or improved over the years? Very little, if not at all. I mean, Ryu doesn't even have any new win poses. I could be wrong, but I've noticed NO difference in them ever. I think Guile picked up another super or something in Alpha 3 (I think), but you get my point. I know Akuma got some odd flipping kick thing in SF3, and that "chop of death" in CvS, though. I don't know. I'm probably wrong, but I'm sick of seeing tired old Capcom characters when I KNOW they made other games with very cool characters.
I'll stop rambling now. I want to play this game, but only for some of the SNK characters and two or three Capcom ones.
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| VManOfMana
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| "Re(2):Re(10):Four more SVC characters" , posted Wed 28 May 23:29
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Tabasa and Hugo are a step in the right direction, but I'm sick to death of seeing just about anyone from SF2 in anything nowadays. I like Akuma and Sagat, so I'm okay with them being in the game, but the rest have become a freaking cliche. And how much have they changed or improved over the years? Very little, if not at all.
Well, some characters have changed. Just look at Chun Li. She did not have that much of a radical change from SF2 to Alpha, but she was completely remade for SF3, and then remade again for CvS2. And I am not talking just about the artwork. She plays completely different on each game.
Same thing happened to Ryu and Ken in their transition from Alpha to SF3. They did not change that much in the beginning, but by the time SF3 evolved into Third Strike they became different enough. Same with CvS2. As of the other SF characters, I cannot say much.
Yeah, I am Chun Li-biased, and the simple fact that she is in the game makes me happy. My secondary character will become Shiki I guess, but Chun Li is still #1 ^____^
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| Jazzie D 1765th Post
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| "Final picks" , posted Sun 1 Jun 08:11
Final picks time for me.
SNK
Rock, Moriya, Geese
Capcom
Lei-Lei, Kyousuke, Yun
It's obvious that they want to have characters from the futures of their biggest series. Rock is too popular to not be in it. We need a Gekka fighter and since Genjurou is in it, it would make sense to put in Moriya. I want Rugal, but seeing as how matters are running, Geese is most likely going to be in it and this will fuel up the feud between the men of the Howard family.
There's no Vampire character and seeing that Morrigan is in too many games, Lei-Lei would be a good choice. Kyousuke is a Justice Gakuen fighter that plays like the atomsphere of the series and we do need a JG fighter. Finally, Yun is a popular character overall. Plus, he is fun to play as.
So, there you have it. I won't be surprised if half of my final picks made it, but I will be suprised if I'm really correct. With my picks, this will solve the flatness seen in the roster.
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| Just a Person 576th Post
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| "Re(1):Final picks" , posted Sun 1 Jun 09:44
You know,Ryoma (from Power Stone),Carlos (from Final Fight 2) and Hiryu would be great additions,as they would be the main opponents to the SS people . Other nice additions to the Capcom cast would be Hinata,Morrigan and Hsien-Ko . Considering Eric's good luck (didn't he say that he would like Genjuro to be in it soon before he was announced ?),Talbain and Cammy could also appear . Sure,they won't put all these people,but just 2 or 3 of them would already be good .
From the SNK people,it would be nice to see someone from Savage Reign/Kizuna Encounter,Last Blade or KoF'99,2000 and 2001 .
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| Fro Boy11 1559th Post
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| "Re(2):Final picks" , posted Sun 1 Jun 11:53
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You know,Ryoma (from Power Stone),Carlos (from Final Fight 2) and Hiryu would be great additions,as they would be the main opponents to the SS people . Other nice additions to the Capcom cast would be Hinata,Morrigan and Hsien-Ko . Considering Eric's good luck (didn't he say that he would like Genjuro to be in it soon before he was announced ?),Talbain and Cammy could also appear . Sure,they won't put all these people,but just 2 or 3 of them would already be good .
From the SNK people,it would be nice to see someone from Savage Reign/Kizuna Encounter,Last Blade or KoF'99,2000 and 2001 .
My final picks are
SNK - Geese, K', and Gato (you know you want Gato)
Capcom - Morrigan, Alex, and Cammy
I'm probably wrong about ALL of them though.
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| KTallguy
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| "Re(6):Final picks" , posted Sun 1 Jun 15:13
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I hope the remaining characters have never appeared in CvS. That means no Yamazaki, Geese, Rock, Kyosuke, Maki or Dan, cool as they may be. Let's hope this final cast is as diverse as possible.
How about K' and Blue Mary for SNK (who've both never been in CvS). They have pretty original moves. At least Mary does! =) (IMO)
For Capcom, someone really obscure that I've never heard of... maybe Hayato from MvsC2 but like, animated SF3 style ?
I don't know if I'm alone on this, but I feel like Playmore is going with caracters that they don't have to redraw THAT much. In the video clips, the only person that I'd never seen sprites of was that new Tabasa. Everyone else was ripped from some game or another.
At least some new fighting games draw completely NEW sprites, instead of editing old ones. But is that not cost effective enough? :)
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"Re(2):Four more SVC characters" 
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He's not Takuma, so he's a welcome change.
I cant believe Chizuru is not in this game! 
