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| Mosquiton 754th Post
 
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|  "about nationality..."
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This Movie's gonna suck. If anybody wants to Assasinate Van Damme and Dolph Lundren so this Movie doesn't get made I'll be your best friend!
Cammy has no Nationality. She's a Clone of Vega's (the Dictator) DNA. Capcom has never given her a British Voice Actor on purpose. And yes, they could do it since they did it for Psyloke and Dudley, more or less. Back in SF2 her Nationality was stated to be England, but Capcom changed a lot of Cammy's info. Still didn't have an English Voice Actor in SF2, though.
Just because her background in SF2 is from England, and she was left in front of MI-6 in England does not make her English.
If you want in game proof of this, play with Cammy in CVS1 and go to Vega's (Dictator's) board. Her Nationality is "????"
Well, if she actually worked for the British Government I'd assume she was a British national for that period of time. Unless they just decided never to give her a legal identity or citizenship or passport or bank account or etc. etc. etc.
Nationality, basically, is just a relationship between you and a government. Nothing to do with genetics.
I don't doubt your game info here, if she's still under Bison's control she wouldn't have any nationality... other than Shadaloolian maybe. :P
BUT, as for the movie, all I can do is shake my head.
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| Dr Baghead 2174th Post
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| "Re(1):about nationality..." , posted Fri 23 May 16:53
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This Movie's gonna suck. If anybody wants to Assasinate Van Damme and Dolph Lundren so this Movie doesn't get made I'll be your best friend!
Cammy has no Nationality. She's a Clone of Vega's (the Dictator) DNA. Capcom has never given her a British Voice Actor on purpose. And yes, they could do it since they did it for Psyloke and Dudley, more or less. Back in SF2 her Nationality was stated to be England, but Capcom changed a lot of Cammy's info. Still didn't have an English Voice Actor in SF2, though.
Just because her background in SF2 is from England, and she was left in front of MI-6 in England does not make her English.
If you want in game proof of this, play with Cammy in CVS1 and go to Vega's (Dictator's) board. Her Nationality is "????"
Well, if she actually worked for the British Government I'd assume she was a British national for that period of time. Unless they just decided never to give her a legal identity or citizenship or passport or bank account or etc. etc. etc.
Nationality, basically, is just a relationship between you and a government. Nothing to do with genetics.
I don't doubt your game info here, if she's still under Bison's control she wouldn't have any nationality... other than Shadaloolian maybe. :P
actually nationality tends to be accessoiated with place of birth.
For example, I was born in America so I'm an "American" just as someone born in Russia is a "Russian" or someone from Spain is "Spainish", etc.
place of residences does not change nationality.
In the same example is I move to France, I do not become "French" I'm an "American living in France."
The same would be true for Cammy, her birth nationality is unknown. It's likely she is a resident of England when she works with Delta Red, but it would not make her "British", at least not in the sense people assume she is. (in the same respect, T.Hawk is not Mexican although he lives in Mexico)
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| Cain Highwind
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| "Well also, consider this..." , posted Fri 23 May 19:11:
First of all, I never actually saw the movie. I remember my family rented it or saw it on a Premium channel (or something, I can't remember the exact situation) and they invited me to watch it and I said, "No thanks, I'd rather play the actual game." With Super Street Fighter II for the SNES in front of me. But sometimes, recently, I go through old Marel comics my sister and I have collected and I see the old ad for it and go "Good god! This is what the SF movie looked like?"
However, the artwork from the original SF2 seems pretty lame and horribly drawn by today's standards IMHO, I mean look at the new SF 15th Page where it shows three pictures of Ryu and Ken. SF has evolved since the movie, so there's a slim chance it could utilize a lot of the new characters and storyline as well as modern special effects. Personally, I'd like to see Jackie Chan as Dan (though I remember someone saying Stevan Segal should be Dan; whatever).
Also, even though I'm sure this WOULDN'T happen, but with the popularitiy of the "series" a CvS movie would be pretty interesting. I mean if Jean is playing Guile, the whole movie plot could be about stoping Rugal's drug smuggling operation. That would be pretty neat.
Anyway, just my thoughts.
EDIT: For some reason I've always pictured Jonathon Frakes (Will Riker from ST:NG) playing Rugal, CvS movie or not.
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| Just a Person 575th Post
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| "Re(5):Dolph Lundgren in next SF movie" , posted Sat 24 May 17:13
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Geez,it's been forever since I've seen JCVD in a movie,or Dolph.
But I know if it'll be anything like the first SF,we'll expect a barf-fest.
I heard Holly Valance(Australian pop star) will be Cammy. But why her? Cammy's not Australian. >_< Those boofs!
That's why they're called actors, you stupid ass.
I wish this thread had caught my attention earlier.
Good job, Baghead and anyone else who spoke up.
Someone needed to put Eric in his place.
I didn't understand it . What's wrong ? Eric just showed his opinion about Holly Valance acting as Cammy . He didn't offend anyone,so why were you so agressive against him ? Since I'm not appearing here very often,maybe it's something I don't know,but I didn't understand this agressivity against TalbainEric .
By the way,is this news really official ? Because Capcom should be very desperate to make a new SF movie with Van Damme in it (although that anime movie was excellent,that's how the next SF movie should be like) .
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| Sano
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| "Re(3):Dolph Lundgren in next SF movie" , posted Tue 27 May 09:25
I would say that T.Hawk is Mexican because his birthplace is and has always been listed as Mexico. Remember, before the arrival of Spaniards, French, British and what not, America was all one big land not divided into countries, so the Native Americans that originated from what is now New York in a sense are the same as the Native Americans that originated from what is now Mexico, so to speak, (of course with a few different cultures, lifestyles and appearances)providing none of them have integrated with Spaniards over the years and in Mexico there are still tribes like this. The names are off, as his tribe should not be called the Thunderfoot Tribe or he should not be called Thunderhawk but either something in Spanish since many Natives adopted Spanish words in their language or something in their Native dialect. Well, at least T.Hawk's father's name is Arroyo which is Mexican for stream. So, I believe his tribe has always been based in Mexico, so T.Hawk is Mexican though not necessarily Latino.
I almost didn't even want to bother commenting on this due to Capcom of Japan's poor research done (if any) when creating T.Hawk (Though, I'm not sure how much research Capcom's supposed to do or is even willing to do just because they want to add another Grappler and they
know 99.9% of Japan won't care either way)Originally they wanted to call him Geronimo for crying out loud until Capcom USA said, "NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!" See! Capcom USA is not completely useless...
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| Dr Baghead 2177th Post
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| "Re(4):Dolph Lundgren in next SF movie" , posted Tue 27 May 11:17
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I would say that T.Hawk is Mexican because his birthplace is and has always been listed as Mexico. Remember, before the arrival of Spaniards, French, British and what not, America was all one big land not divided into countries, so the Native Americans that originated from what is now New York in a sense are the same as the Native Americans that originated from what is now Mexico, so to speak, (of course with a few different cultures, lifestyles and appearances)providing none of them have integrated with Spaniards over the years and in Mexico there are still tribes like this. The names are off, as his tribe should not be called the Thunderfoot Tribe or he should not be called Thunderhawk but either something in Spanish since many Natives adopted Spanish words in their language or something in their Native dialect. Well, at least T.Hawk's father's name is Arroyo which is Mexican for stream. So, I believe his tribe has always been based in Mexico, so T.Hawk is Mexican though not necessarily Latino.
Actually I believe according to his storyline in SSF2 T.Hawk's tribe is located in the American Southwest, when Bison or Shadowloo or whoever
took it from him he relocated to Mexico. This seems even more likely when you consider he's based on the stereotype of a North American Indian, if Capcom had intended him to be from Mexico originally he'd probably be wearing a costume with a more Aztec flare to it and CoJ would have considered naming him "Montechzuma" instead of "Geranimo"
but every American game magazine covering the game said "he fights in Mexico! but he's not FROM Mexico!", so I very well could be wrong.
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