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|  "Re(3):Microsoft VS. Linux"
, posted Sun 25 May 00:02
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I miss OS/2 (user from 1995 to 2000)
I miss BeOS (user sometime during 2000)
BeOS might not be as dead as we think. Check out Zeta! Of course, if it doesn't get up-to-date driver support and lots of new software, we may as well just be running R5... sigh. A new, well-supported BeOS might get me to build another x86 box. Really great operating system, the interface is simply lovely and it had a lot of potential.
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I concluded that the only viable way to get out of Windows is to get a Mac, since IMO Linux is still not there in terms of usability. Its geting there, but Apple simply got first place at making a decent UI for UNIX.
So here I am, waiting for the PPC970 laptops to be released.
I'm inclined to agree, here... Well, not totally. Linux is doable, but it's a lot of effort. I agree with whoever first said "Linux is free if your time is worthless", heh... It's fun for me as a hobby, and it actually lets me make use of my old x86 machines, but I wouldn't run it as my desktop OS, more than likely. At least when something goes wrong in Linux, unlike in Windows, I usually know why, it was usually my fault, and I can fix it. As for the 970 machines... eep! You'll probably be waiting quite a while before seeing desktops, let alone laptops.
I'm buying a new PowerBook this summer for college... I'm on the last model PBG3(400mhz) right now, I've had the machine for over 2 years now, and to be perfectly honest, I could probably go another 2 or more. Everything runs at a passable speed in OS X (albeit with a little over 512MB of RAM), even Photoshop... only problem is tablet input is a bit sluggish. I don't play games on it except for emulating stuff in MAME most of the time, so it's up to the task. MSHvSF runs great, so I'm happy. 
I doubt I could afford to play PC games even if I had a Windows PC, anyway. New video cards every few months... not a chance. Plus Doom 3 and CS are coming out for Xbox, and Return to Castle Wolfenstein's already out... come to think of it, yeah, I do have a gaming PC, however it sits in my entertainment center.
I encourage people making the switch to Macs if they're dissatisfied with Windows.. if you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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| VManOfMana
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Regular Customer
| "Re(4):Microsoft VS. Linux" , posted Tue 27 May 01:02
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BeOS might not be as dead as we think. Check out Zeta! Of course, if it doesn't get up-to-date driver support and lots of new software, we may as well just be running R5... sigh. A new, well-supported BeOS might get me to build another x86 box. Really great operating system, the interface is simply lovely and it had a lot of potential.
Yeah, but to be honest I gave up on alternative operating systems on x86. I really pushed to stay on OS/2 as much as I could and at the end it was a really frustrating experience. I remember having an internal fight with myself for about two hours before deciding to finally delete OS/2 from my machine. Then, after getting in love with BeOS and having my hopes up again, Be's dismay hit me hard.
The problem is that I just don't want to have another emotional hit (yeah, I can be very emotional on stuff I like - computers, anime, games), and well, Linux doesn't has the wow factor that made me get immedeately attached to OS/2 in 1994 and BeOS in 2000. I did know about Zeta before, but one of the reasons why I think that Macs are the only toher alternative to Windows is not just about the software, but the hardware. Apple is able to be out there because they have an ensured hardware distributor: themselves. Look at what happened to BeOS with hardware sellers (if yo don't know, they pretty much ad an agreement with a bunch of OEMs, but at the end all of them backed out). Sure, Linux is able to survive without many hardware vendors preinstalling Linux, but their distribution model a lot less market driven.
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As for the 970 machines... eep! You'll probably be waiting quite a while before seeing desktops, let alone laptops.
I'm buying a new PowerBook this summer for college... I'm on the last model PBG3(400mhz) right now, I've had the machine for over 2 years now, and to be perfectly honest, I could probably go another 2 or more. Everything runs at a passable speed in OS X (albeit with a little over 512MB of RAM), even Photoshop... only problem is tablet input is a bit sluggish. I don't play games on it except for emulating stuff in MAME most of the time, so it's up to the task. MSHvSF runs great, so I'm happy.
Well, rumors say that the 970 is already on production at IBM factories, and that the first 970 systems will be announced at the Apple WEDC next months. Meaning that the 970s might be out this year. Anyways, I got plenty of time, since it will take me a while to save $2600, and my Duron 900 laptop is still (almost) good for what I use it, and I can still upgrade the processor.
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I doubt I could afford to play PC games even if I had a Windows PC, anyway. New video cards every few months... not a chance. Plus Doom 3 and CS are coming out for Xbox, and Return to Castle Wolfenstein's already out... come to think of it, yeah, I do have a gaming PC, however it sits in my entertainment center.
Well, my PC is not a gaming machine, but rather a schoolwork machine. Duron 900 with 256MB RAM, with enough ports for expansions, and the only gripe I got is the low-end graphics card (only 8MB), the only games I play are either doujin fighters (especifically Eternal Fighter Zero) and older games that run OK. I am rather on console gaming so I don't care much (not have time to get into) PC gaming. My main problem is that the video card won't let me play some doujin games like Melty Blood, Glove on Fight or Azumanga Volleyball.
I encourage people making the switch to Macs if they're dissatisfied with Windows.
Amen to that.
Jabel D. Morales - VMan of Mana.
http://vman.animecafe.net/
"Tameraeba makeyo!"
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| DarkZero
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Occasional Customer
| "Re(1):Microsoft VS. Linux" , posted Tue 27 May 02:59
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http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,58904,00.html
FUCK M$
I knew Micrso#333t was behind this funky assed shit that SCO was pulling. I mean SCO sells linux for &^%$$ sakes.
MICROSOFT IS SCARED AND RIGHTFULLY SO. HAVE YOU GUYS USED GNOME OR KDE Graphical user interfaces before....You'll find out what i mean.
Microsoft licenses the intellectual property of just about anyone that screams loud enough about IP violations. The only thing that scares them is the thought of squandering opportunities to shut down future DOJ anti-trust suits and ending up in a bad situation that they could've prevented. It's cheaper to throw money at the people that threaten them with anti-trust or IP violations than to go through another DOJ suit in the future. Linux companies are afraid of SCO because SCO poses a legitimate threat to their business. Microsoft, on the other hand, hears their demands and says, "So, all you want is MONEY? That's it? Here, have some. We'll just have some more shipped over from the orchard later."
See, this is why people laugh at Linux advocates when they talk about how evil Microsoft is. Microsoft really is a burden on the computing industry, mostly because their business model is to just outspend the competition in every area of the industry and eventually become the undisputed leader (and later monopolist) of that industry without making a superior product. They dump PCs in boxes, add some DRM and minor modifications to them, and then sell them as consoles at a massive loss. They pay reportedly obscene amounts of money to game developers to add "Xbox exclusive content" to their multiplatform titles. They offer their software to nonprofit organizations at a 90% discount so that they will pay full price once they've adopted the software and have to pay a hefty conversion cost to switch to another OS. They've applied every tried-and-true tactic of a monopolist both in their own industry and the new ones that they've tried to break into, but what do Linux zealots complain about? Perfectly legitimate practices like adding a browser to an operating system or licensing the software of a company that Linux zealots don't like. And the whole "M$" thing certainly doesn't help.
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